Pounding a Theme Into the Ground

This gets old quickly. Logos has fumbled around and yet again left my money on the table...even money it hasn't given me yet.

When I bought Collector's Edition, there was a passel of worthless freebies I have no interest in that came with it, plus a (one would think) very useful $50 credit. I immediately decided I would get Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus, which was on sale for just under $50 at the time. Well that was months ago and I still haven't seen the credit and the item I wanted went off sale and went back to its normal price of $58.99. At least that was the price until today, when the price inexplicably sky-rocketed to $79.20 overnight. That's a $30 dollar difference from what I wanted to pay months ago.

I likely won't be getting that set at all, now.

Is Logos/FL getting old, feeble, and slow? Why does it keep doing things to prevent me from giving them money? It happens constantly and I'm getting really tired of it.

MM, the Easter Sale, the monthly sale for March, and now this, all in just the last week, and in each case money that I would really like to spend stays in my wallet because Logos is dropping the ball.

I"M...TIRED...OF...IT.

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Bruce Dunning

Well that was months ago and I still haven't seen the credit

Sorry to hear that you have not yet received this. Did you contact Customer Service about it? I can't imagine that they would not have made this right if they knew about it.

and the item I wanted went off sale and went back to its normal price of $58.99. At least that was the price until today, when the price inexplicably sky-rocketed to $79.20 overnight. That's a $30 dollar difference from what I wanted to pay months ago.

In addition, if you can make your case about this directly to Customer Service I'm guessing that they will understand and try to help.

DMB

When a decently intelligent company ignores 'the customers', there's a decent chance there's other customers.

Then there's the argument that Logos already got the forumites' dinero. Well gone dry. Except for CE purchasers.

I'm afraid to comment on your deity-body suggestions ... weekend, you know.

David Paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/711226#Comment_711226

I'm afraid to comment on your deity-body suggestions ... weekend, you know.

Apparently you aren't the only one afraid to comment on this suggestion. The book has a rare 5-star rating and is described with glowing praise such as...

"Excellent scholarship."
"by far the most comprehensive and lucid overview available of the Biblical conceptions of God's embodiment"
"This book is a lucid, elegant and erudite presentation of a series of complex topics"
"This very original work raises profound questions"
"The extraordinary thing about this very interesting book is that, while clearly an example of advanced scholarship, it is so readable by the layman"
"The book is a stunning foray into ancient Israelite religious traditions that produces new insights and raises critically important questions"
"he remains the consummate analyst, discerning and discriminating in his reading of the ancient sources and the modern scholarship on them"

In addition to mere praise, there is this: the book "received two major honors: the Award for Excellence in the Study of Religion in the Textual Studies category, awarded in 2010 by the American Academy of Religion, and the Jordan Schnitzer Award from the Association for Jewish Studies, for the best book published in the years 2006-2009 in biblical studies, rabbinics, or archaeology."

Each one of the above comments comes from a different source, btw. Even so, in spite of this, with nigh on 100 views, there has not been the faintest glimmer or hint of recognition on the part of this forum that there is anything here worth acknowledging.

Perhaps that is because of this comment?

"This is an excellent choice . . . although it might upset fundamentalists of several religions."

Things that make you go...

[^o)]

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/711253#Comment_711253

I'm just helping you out on spending the credit you didn't get. Though, I'd agree, marketing surely hasn't forgotten the big spenders?

I avoided your other thread because I belong to the literalists denomination (which is fundementally anchored). I don't recall any OT text arguing God's bodily parts were all human imagery. In theory, Moses must have seen 'something'. I'm tempted to go ahead and buy, mainly having just finished a native-American rock art book (which I'd assumed was just 'art'' but not).

EDIT: Purchased; looks good.

David Paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/711264#Comment_711264

Funny, Denise, as a literalist, I would sorta expect you to fall on the other side of the fence, seeing as there is next to no discussion of YHWH as a mist. Clear metaphor aside (talk of being an eagle lifting up with, or hen covering with, wings), the lion's share of His self-descriptions are body-based. Saying, "I don't see any reason to take the majority of His self-descriptions seriously," doesn't seem to be literalist to me. But I'm all about the prophecy, so what do I know?

I will probably have to get both of those books apart from Logos. That's okay, since I always like to have a hard copy of something to carry with me when I step out in case I find myself with nothing to do. I will need them pretty soon since I'm working on a book about YHWH's hand right now in my other tab and these could have useful insights that apply.

Also funny...how all the discussion about this thread is happening in this one. [:^)]

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/711279#Comment_711279

Well, I must admit some embarrassment. I was unsuccessful in pointing out that the OT indeed is a body-book. Thus the move to only-spirit along with intervening messengers presumes human discomfort with the writings. Already started reading, the author doesn't let the pages grow under his feet ... he draws a bodiful line in the sand right off the bat.

If you return, do you know of a good book discussing OT symbolism. I'm talking relative to imagery between Egypt, Ugarit, etc. Most Amazon searches go into strange-land. This isn't arguing against the body-book ... I've just been unsuccessful. Something like Dictionary of Ancient Imagery and Symbols (I made that up).

David Paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/711288#Comment_711288

There is this title that just went into production:

https://www.logos.com/product/49924/the-a-to-z-guide-to-bible-signs-and-symbols-understanding-their-meaning-and-significance

and a few others that are specifically Biblical or Israelite (see this search):

https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=symbol*

but if you want something more broadly ANE, there is this:

https://www.logos.com/product/46729/symbiosis-symbolism-and-the-power-of-the-past-canaan-ancient-israel-and-their-neighbors-from-the-late-bronze-age-through-roman-palaestina

https://www.logos.com/product/49655/eisenbrauns-studies-on-ancient-religious-symbolism

https://www.logos.com/product/30090/spirit-and-reason-the-embodied-character-of-ezekiels-symbolic-thinking

Hopefully there's something to pique and satisfy your interest. [:)]

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/711290#Comment_711290

Appreciate the searches. I ended up tracking down the 2nd Eisenbrauns book (of the 3-some), and then using Amazon's affinity matching. Prices are astronomical; too bad the pre-pub will wither. I ended up with http://www.amazon.com/Architecture-Ancient-University-Pelican-History/dp/0300064705/ which apparently is 1954 updated and nothing better. But we'll await the mail truck, and see.

Thanks again!

David Paul

MM, the Easter Sale, the monthly sale for March, and now this, all in just the last week, and in each case money that I would really like to spend stays in my wallet because Logos is dropping the ball.

I"M...TIRED...OF...IT.

Returning to the theme of the OP, there is this gem from the Logos homepage...

When I saved this pic just moments ago, I named it "saleless sale", since there are no sales in this sale. I understand why the grayed-out items have black prices, since I own them already. But the normal everyday black-print prices are what follows these locked & unowned items when you add them to your cart. If I wanted one of these sale items (I do), there is no reason to purchase them, in spite of the promotion that gins you up to do so. One word:

Frustrating.

Tom Reynolds

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/711315#Comment_711315

Do you already own one of the Horton volumes? It's giving me a price of $86.36 for that.

David Paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/711321#Comment_711321

Yes, just picked it up w/ MM discount. I only wanted the one book.

Brother Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/711264#Comment_711264

I belong to the literalists denomination (which is fundamentally anchored)

Today's winner in the category: Double entendre of the day!