Latest/best Strong's Resource

Fred Greco

Can anyone tell me what the "latest and greatest" version of a Strong's resource is?  I have more than a few of them, made more confusing by the E4 resources.

But what is the one that I should be using?

Mike Aubrey

Honestly, I'd say don't use any of them. Strong's is dated and inaccurate. If you really need a dictionary that contains Strong's numbers, use Swanson's Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains. The content is much, much more reliable -- though still quite concise.

SteveF

Fred Greco said:

But what is the one that I should be using?

Agreed that Mr. Strong (working many years agao with a pencil and pen [:)]) has made a few errors and there are now later materials available based on newer research. BUT with that "warning"

Theological WordBook of the OT  is not too old.

Any of the Zodiates "Word Study" series all use these numbers.

Thomas Nelson has published a couple of "New Strong's..." products.

ALL of the above are available in logos/Libronix.

It depends on what you are trying to learn/accomplish etc.

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Fred Greco

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/81262#Comment_81262

I understand, and I don't really use Strongs much.  That's why I want to get it down to only one that will not be hidden.

I only want one Strong's to show up in my library.

SteveF

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/81276#Comment_81276

Fred Greco said:

I only want one Strong's to show up in my library.

Fred, I really think that i know where you are coming from (yet, maybe not [:D])...I too often try to "pare down" or "hide" extra (? redundant ? ) resources.

BUT That still presents a bit of difficulty. Strong's was originally created as almost an "annotated" concordance. There will be resources using Strong's that are EITHER OT or NT.  you may not be able to find a "one" Strong's that suits all needs etc. Some author's or companies may only stress either the OT or NT yet still be using Strong's numbering system.

Fred Greco

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/81283#Comment_81283

Steve,

I think I am explaining myself, but need to clarify a bit.  In my library, I have the following versions of Strong's:

• Enhanced Strong's Lexicon (Woodside Bible Fellowship)
• New Strong's Guide to Bible Words
• The New Strong's Guide to Bible Words
• A Concise Dictionary of Words in the Greek Testament and The Hebrew Bible (Strong, James)

I think  these are four versions of basically the same book - commonly known as "Strong's."  I don't think I need four; and I want the best one of these four (compared to each other, not to different resources like Swanson or BDAG) to stay in my library.  My question is: which to keep?

Mary-Ellen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/81286#Comment_81286

Fred Greco said:

Enhanced Strong's Lexicon (Woodside Bible Fellowship)
New Strong's Guide to Bible Words

Back when keylinking was important, I think the first of these ("Enhanced") was preferred, because it could be a keylink destination for more data types.  The second (or is it third?) ("New") is a Nelson product and, at least for a while, some other Nelson resource would only link to the Nelson Strong's, as I vaguely recall.  With Logos 4, I don't think any of this is an issue anymore.

I recommend opening up all four and comparing entries on a handful of words to see what you think.  If there is front-matter in any of the books, that might also help you decide.

If I'm wrong about this, hopefully someone else in the forum will speak up.

SteveF

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/81286#Comment_81286

 

It appears that Mary-Ellen has beat me too it, but here goes:

Fred Greco said:

A Concise Dictionary of Words in the Greek Testament and The Hebrew Bible (Strong, James)

The New Strong's Dictionary of Hebrew and Greek Words

Fred Greco said:

Enhanced Strong's Lexicon (Woodside Bible Fellowship)

The above three all begin with the number and the Greek/Hebrew word. BUT the first is "concise" ie. had less materials included.

But if you are comfortable starting from the original language, either of the last two would do. BUT the last one, Fred Greco said:Enhanced Strong's Lexicon (Woodside Bible Fellowship)

has extra tagging to other Logos volumes which might also be in your library, so I would choose it.

IF you are more comfortable working from the English then

Fred Greco said:

New Strong's Guide to Bible Words

with the Red Cover, Nelson 1997 etc. It starts with English words (so the NT and OT are some what intermingled, etc).

 

Bobby Terhune

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/81301#Comment_81301

My understanding was the Enhanced Strong's was no longer for sale, and no longer was included in the new L4 base packages. If you had it then fine, but Bob P said it was being replaced in the new base packages by the Thomas Nelson's product called "The New Strong's Dictionsry of Hebrew and Greek Words".

SteveF

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/81313#Comment_81313

BobbyTerhune said:

"The New Strong's Dictionsry of Hebrew and Greek Words".

I just re-checked. That one is at least tagged to the Zodiates AMG materials- The various "Word Study" resources/set etc. And to the TWOT - Theological WordbBook of OT.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/81286#Comment_81286

Fred Greco said:

• Enhanced Strong's Lexicon (Woodside Bible Fellowship)
• New Strong's Guide to Bible Words
• The New Strong's Guide to Bible Words
• A Concise Dictionary of Words in the Greek Testament and The Hebrew Bible (Strong, James)

Another way of regarding these is that  Enhanced Strong's and A Concise Dictionary have *.logos4 files whilst the others are *.lbxlls (also the New Strong's Dictionary of Hebrew and Greek words).

The Concise Dictionary is 2009 Logos whilst the New Strong's Dictionary is 1997 Nelson. Their content looks identical, just formatted differently.

The Guide to Bible Words serves a different purpose, as it is indexed on English headwords and NOT Strong's number.