Comparing Software

I am trying to help my new Pastor get the Logos system, however, he is thinking he is more inclined to get Quickverse instead. I am trying to investigate the strengths and weaknesses of each. I am unfamiliar with Quickverse, so if anyone can assist in this- that would be great!

Thanks.

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JT (alabama24)

I am trying to help my new Pastor get the Logos system, however, he is thinking he is more inclined to get Quickverse instead.

Are you on staff? If so, don't bother. It would be better for you to let him do his thing.

Michael S.

Alabama- no I am not on staff. I have been friends with him for 15 years, and he has served as my Associate Pastor for those years, and now will be the Senior Pastor. I serve as a deacon at our congregation.

Thank you.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/711996#Comment_711996

Our pastor has QV. I don't think he's ever wanted to see my Logos. Its reputation proceeds it. Same with the preachers in my family.

I was curious about QV. Right off the bat, their site had explanatory instructions on how to use. Before you even buy. I knew that was a big mistake. Plus it supports CROSS.

I think it's an interesting question. Logosians keep their collective swords sharpened for Accordance / Bibleworks. Languages!

When we see each other at the grocery store, we compare notes on our latest good buys. I kind of have to grit my teeth more than I'd like.

Mark Smith

I have a copy of Wordsearch 10. Not sure the differences. I don't have any Greek or Hebrew tools in Wordsearch, but frankly Wordsearch is terribly limited compared to Logos.

I notice Quickverse Platinum is $1.999. It's contents pale in comparison with Logos Standard Platinum which is just $150 more. In fact the comparison is embarrassing for Quickverse.

Quickverse: 540 volumes with a good Hebrew Bible, but a weak Greek one, one reverse interlinear, a small collection of English Bibles, no modern critical or exegetical commentaries, a very weak collection of Bible dictionaries, no lexicons that I can note. Then a bunch of preacher-type resources that I would never use (and I preach every week).

Logos: 1,500 volumes including all of Logos' latest datasets and interactives, Greek and Hebrew Bibles (the latest critical versions), many reverse Interlinears to make Greek and Hebrew studies easier, a number of solid modern commentaries including New American, New International Greek Testament, Blacks', Pillar, UBS Handbooks, Exegetical summaries, etc., a decent modern Bible dictionary, limited lexicons, some Greek and Hebrew grammars, and more.

So just on the 'what do I get for my dollar' comparison, Logos is way ahead. In fact, I wouldn't even consider spending $1999 for what Quickverse offers. (I'm a pastor).

In terms of what each program can do? It's hard to know where to begin. Logos has a much better interface, more search tools, more tools, period, better Library organization, Bible Word Study tool, Passage Guide tool, etc.

Not to put Quickverse down, but they are no competition for Logos as a study tool for a pastor.

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712013#Comment_712013

I don't think he's ever wanted to see my Logos. Its reputation proceeds it.

What a shame for your pastor.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712015#Comment_712015

Yes, he's a people person. Software sufficient to add some zest to the message. But I agree with him ... the issue is what goes home after services.

Erik

I started out with Quickverse 8 many years ago before investing in Logos 3. I kept upgrading it for several years but drifted away from it since it's functionality and resource offerings were limited compared to Logos. I "upgraded" it to Wordsearch 10 (essentially Quickverse 10) when it was released since I have many Moody titles (including McArthur's commentaries) in it.

From a functional standpoint there is simply no comparison...Logos blows it out of the water. The Wordsearch/Quickverse platform/interface is getting a little long in the tooth and desperately needs an upgrade. If it weren't for the Moody titles I don't think I'd ever use it. To me Wordsearch/Quickverse it's more of a Kindle-app on steroids.

David Thomas

Both will search, both have a large library. I have both.

I prefer Logos because many of the Discourse Analysis tools (High Definition OT and NT) and the Propositional outlines help me get to the core meaning of a text which makes my time in the commentaries more efficient.

Rene Atchley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712063#Comment_712063

Logos is the Cadillac of Bible software....it is the most for the biggest fee for an endless supply of books most of which your pastor will never use. It is terribly sophisticated and requires extensive background to master in order to use it effectively. Quickverse is a older product with much more limited amount of resources that is, perhaps more akin, to a mid line Chevrolet. It is considerably easier to use, imo, but will ultimately get the pastor to a sermon without a huge overhead in cost or time. Asking which is better of the two programs is sort of like asking a Ford dealer how good Honda's are...you can guess the answer. Ultimately what he or she buys depends on what they need....or as in my case you buy the Caddy and it just sits in your driveway.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712063#Comment_712063

I have QuickVerse Platinum and Logos 6 Collector's Edition. Logos is better for Bible study. I am not a Pastor and I do not have a preaching ministry so I can't accurately judge the usefulness in those areas.

Kevin A. Purcell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712093#Comment_712093

I haven't bothered with QV in a long time. It used to be a big pile of goo with so many bugs I couldn't run it. The comparison is like a ferari to a pinto.

Just show him the Passage Guide and that will sell Logos alone for a QV user. That's why I switched. Others do something similar, but unless they updated QV it doesn't.

It's also not really in development much. WORDsearch bought them out and then Lifeway bought WS. They leaven it purely as a token to the legacy users. I don't think they've added any real features in a long time.

David Taylor, Jr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712126#Comment_712126

QV doesn't even begin to compare to L6. Shouldn't even be in the same category. Do you want a toddler's toy or an actual vehicle?

Greg Corbin

I pretty well agree with these others. I was a QuickVerse user for several years - mainly due to cost and availability. In 2008, I was blessed to be able to purchase Logos 3 (the old Scholars package) and I haven't looked back. While I am sure that QuickVerse is much improved in the newer iterations, my experience is that that two platforms are entirely different things. Not that QuickVerse is bad, but dollar for dollar, Logos is a much better value, etc.

John Kight

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712266#Comment_712266

I used QV for some time prior to Logos. It's a quick way to waste your money before you buy Logos. That's about it.

Tes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712273#Comment_712273

Apart of Logos, I have the latest version of Qv. and PC study Bible which is a bit better than Qv. I am not using them. You cannot compare them with Logos; the comparison is between a bicycle and a motorcycle. I think to compare them is, like someone, who doesn't want to know about Logos. If someone has Logos, you don't want to think to use another software.on this occasion I thank Logos for their constant development.

Charles

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712297#Comment_712297

I also agree with the others. I originally started out with QV DOS when it was owned by Parson's Technology. A fellow minister let me on to Logos when it was the Logos Library System and I've been with it ever since. Frankly, I don't know how I used to write sermons and Bible studies without it! [:D]

In Christ,

Charles

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

My favorite Logos feature is visual filter highlighting that "shows" range of Greek verbal expression in Greek, English, and Spanish.

Romans 8:26 has present tense for intercedes. Wiki has => https://wiki.logos.com/Extended_Tips_for_Highlighting_and_Visual_Filters#Examples_of_visual_filters

Thankful for Logos 6 option to not show chapter and verse numbers.

Keep Smiling [:)]

mab

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712322#Comment_712322

I bought a copy of QV several years ago. Used it very little and sold it. I agree with Kevin, the Passage Guide alone makes Logos top; for whatever message or study it is golden.

I do have and use other Bible programs. A little bit. If you have an anemic old computer other choices might seem better. Otherwise Logos rocks.

David A Egolf

Does Quickverse make your resources available on your mobile devices? Does it sync notes and highlights?

Rick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712635#Comment_712635

Does Quickverse make your resources available on your mobile devices?

Yes, WordSearch, who now owns Quickverse, does have a mobile app. Since I have not used it in quite some time, I don't know about the highlights.

Michael March

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712635#Comment_712635

I too started with Quickverse, back before windows. I bought a lot of resources from them and duly upgraded for years. Then I saw Logos and frankly there is no comparison. I kept QV up for several years until I finally just let it go. Sorry, but QV just isn't in the same league with Logos. Some compare it like a chevy to a caddy or a ferrari to a pinto, I think it's more like a 3/4 ton diesel pickup to a little red radio flyer wagon. If you really don't care about how much you want to haul, both will get your stuff moved...

William M. Harper

I have both Logos 6 and also WORDSearch which bought the rights to Quickverse from a software company which previously owned it. WORDSearch still offers Quickverse 10, which they updated and greatly improved over previous versions of Quickverse, as well as their own software. I have both Quickverse 10 and WORDSearch installed on my computer. There is very little difference between the two but if your pastor chooses to go with them I would recommend the WORDSearch program rather than QV10 because I get the feeling they may eventually phase out Quickverse and merge the two programs together as one. It appears that the two programs are already somewhat integrated. The books I buy from them are accessible in both programs but I don't need both programs, just one. I would like to uninstall QV10 but am afraid it would remove books I have in the other. I enjoy using both WORDSearch/ Quickverse 10 and Logos. Logos 6 is by far the superior software and offers tons of more resources but WordSearch or QV10 has some great features as well, the common resources are usually less expensive and the program itself less complicated to use than Logos.

EastTN

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712713#Comment_712713

I own a table saw, a band saw, a chain saw and a circular saw. I also have a couple of cheap handsaws - and every now and then I use them. There's nothing wrong with having more than one tool. And there's nothing wrong with pulling out a cheap tool when it's convenient and you're comfortable with it.

James Hiddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712729#Comment_712729

I own a table saw, a band saw, a chain saw and a circular saw. I also have a couple of cheap handsaws - and every now and then I use them. There's nothing wrong with having more than one tool. And there's nothing wrong with pulling out a cheap tool when it's convenient and you're comfortable with it.

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Josh Hunt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712635#Comment_712635

It is a lifelong platform to collect books. Choose your rut carefully. The depth of resources -- sheer number of available books in Logos is incredible. Also, the Bible word study--the ability to see in a couple of clicks, "how is word translated in other places in this translation". Here is an insight for today from

Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. Romans 14:1 (NIV84)

This is how accept is translated in other places in the NIV2011

As you can see, "accepted" is sometimes translated "ate". Interesting. in the program itself, you click on the words itself you can see the actual verses where these appear. Awesome.