NIC what's the difference?

Josh Hunt

What is the difference between these two:

https://www.logos.com/product/7460/the-epistles-to-the-ephesians-and-the-colossians

https://www.logos.com/product/37585/the-new-international-commentary-on-the-new-testament-the-epistles-to-the-colossians-to-philemon-and-to-the-ephesians 

Ron

30 years and different authors?

EDIT: Well, sort of...I see that Bruce was co-author of the older one as well.  I missed that when I took a quick glance.

Mark Smith

Josh Hunt said:

What is the difference between these two:

Let F.F. Bruce (the series editor at the time) explain the new volume:

The commentary on Philippians and Philemon, which was published in 1955, was written by Professor Jacobus J. Müller of Stellenbosch, who died in 1977. When another scholar was invited to write a new commentary on Philippians, taking up a full volume by itself, it was decided to detach Philemon from Philippians and include it along with Colossians and Ephesians. There was indeed a notable precedent for presenting commentaries on Philippians and Philemon in one volume, by one author: that was Marvin R. Vincent’s work on these two epistles in the International Critical Commentary (1897). But there are even better precedents for linking Philemon with Colossians: one need look no farther than Lightfoot’s volume (1875).

The exposition of Ephesians by the veteran scholar E. K. Simpson (who died at an advanced age in 1961) was a work of literary distinction, well worthy of preservation in its own right; but it never fitted easily into the general pattern of the New International Commentary. It appeared in 1957, sharing one volume with a commentary on Colossians by the present general editor. When the time came to revise the commentary on Colossians, the writer of that commentary arranged, after completing the revision, to write new companion commentaries on Philemon and Ephesians. All three commentaries are now presented to the reader in this volume.

F. F. BRUCE


F. F. Bruce, The Epistles to the Colossians, to Philemon, and to the Ephesians, The New International Commentary on the New Testament (Grand Rapids, MI: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1984), ix.

Josh Hunt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712210#Comment_712210

If I owned both, would they both come up under New International Commentary as part of the same set?

David Paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712218#Comment_712218

Possibly not the best person to answer this, since I haven't made the first collection at this point, but I think you can make them come up as part of the same set. In my library, when I search on "nicnt", I get...

This is what the older Bruce volume's info window shows...

Notice, though, that it isn't "officially" part of the NICNT collection. But you can finagle that, I'm pretty sure, and create a collection that includes all of what is in my library search (plus the few ones I don't have yet).

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712218#Comment_712218

Josh Hunt said:

If I owned both, would they both come up under New International Commentary as part of the same set?

Older volumes like Simpson/Bruce are given the same series tag as the newest version(s), so, yes, it will appear as part of the same set.

Josh Hunt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/712235#Comment_712235

Well, I have gotten a few of these, and they do both show up