Is there a KJV Bible from that is best on the 1769 text? The one in my package is base on the KJV (1900 / PCE)
Is there a KJV Bible from that is best (based) on the 1769 text? The one in my package is base(d) on the KJV (1900 / PCE)
Is this one suitable?
The only one I could call superior would likely be The New Cambridge Paragraph Bible with the Apocrypha, rev. ed. (NCPB). But I do not think the Logos one is at any significant disadvantage. I know Nelson tried standardizing it and copywriter their cleaned up edition 1975, but all of these are basically the 1769 edition. It is just many small variations were published in 1769.
-Dan
A while back, I did a comparison of the KJV1900 and the AV (both Logos format), but could not find any difference between the 2 using text comparison. The only differences I discovered were in text presentation and the lack of the interlinear in the AV.
Thanks. I do not like the KJV(1900 PCE) because they change Spirit to spirit in 1 John 5:8.
I do not like the KJV(1900 PCE) because they change Spirit to spirit in 1 John 5:8.
Which is it in the original Greek text?
Other KJV use Spirit and almost every new version will uses Spirit. Also the context seem to mean Holy Spirit.
I do not like the KJV(1900 PCE) because they change Spirit to spirit in 1 John 5:8. Which is it in the original Greek text?
spirit- since the originals were nearly always all lowercase.
I'm far from a Greek scholar, but Scrivener 1881 does emphasize Spirit Πνεῦμα, whereas NA27 and NA28 has Spirit as πνεῦμα.
There is a difference between Spirit and spirit, and the capitalization may confuse some as to the meaning (Holy Spirit or a spirit).
Hi there
Your question is a very important one for those of us who use the King James Bible as their main authority. While I have ordered the New Cambridge Paragraph Bible (NCPB) with the apocrypha, I’m conscious its product description may imply real differences from the 1769 text. For example, it states:
Although it is the most important book in the English-speaking world’s religious life and culture, the King James Bible (or Authorized Version of 1611) has never been as perfectly represented in print as the translators intended. Standard editions currently give, with little variation, the text as established by the Blayney edition of 1769. This leaves the reader with a seventeenth-century text in mid-eighteenth-century clothes—clothes neither original nor modern.
Edited by David Norton, The New Cambridge Paragraph Bible is an important scholarly edition that presents a revised KJV text based on a thorough evaluation of the textual variants present in current renderings. It includes the extant notes of the 1611 translators.
(See: https://www.logos.com/product/24557/the-new-cambridge-paragraph-bible-with-the-apocrypha-rev-ed)
When a publisher today says they can do better than the traditional King James Bible text or that they have revised that text, I tend to be cautious. In this case the apocrypha is included – and while that is convenient, for conservative theological reasons, I would prefer a King James Bible not to include it. My main object in ordering the NCPB is to allow me to compare versions when needed.
Another issue is the availability of an interlinear when the Bible text is displayed. The Authorised Version in Logos is my strong preference for the 1769 text - and this has the useful Strongs Numbers included, but no interlinear. The KJV (1900) does have an interlinear, but I do not use the volume as I’m less trusting of scholars and publisher changes to the King James Bible the closer the version is dated to 1900 and afterwards.
Currently, to access an interlinear when needed, I fall back on the Cambridge Paragraph Bible edited by F.H.A. Scrivener (1873) as it does have an interlinear and any changes from the King James Bible are listed in the text by the editor. This allows me to check the differences for myself as needed.
In summary - I think the Authorized Version is the best King James Bible (1769) in Logos, followed by the current Cambridge Paragraph Bible edited by F.H.A. Scrivener (1873). Hope these comments may be useful to you.
Keep well
Paul
It seem like I do not have the " Authorized Version " in my package. I have the KJV(1900) and the Cambridge Paragraph (1873).
For my physical bible I use the KJV Note Takers from the Local Church Bible Publishers.
Its likely you do have the King James Version (also known as the Authorised Version) somewhere in your package as it seems to be included in most if not all of them. Just in case - see the product at: https://www.logos.com/product/17910/the-holy-bible-king-james-version .
Are you KJV-only?
I don't know of any English translation that I agree with completely. I've found one that I prefer, but this is why original language study is important. There simply cannot exist a perfect translation. Something is always lost in translation.
Its likely you do have the King James Version (also known as the Authorised Version) somewhere in your package as it seems to be included in most if not all of them. Just in case - see the product at: https://www.logos.com/product/17910/the-holy-bible-king-james-version . Keep well Paul
That's Pure Cambridge Edition (1900) not the 1769.
Thanks. I do not like the KJV(1900 PCE) because they change Spirit to spirit in 1 John 5:8. Are you KJV-only? I don't know of any English translation that I agree with completely. I've found one that I prefer, but this is why original language study is important. There simply cannot exist a perfect translation. Something is always lost in translation.
I only use the KJV. I would go into more detail but this is not the place to do that.
I don't think the 1769 Authorized Version (shown above) is available any longer. Likely the product of a much earlier base package.
See THIS THREAD and BLOG POST for more detailed information.
Visual filter can change spirit to Spirit in 1 John 5:8 and 24 other verses. Search and Visual Filter have Match Case checked:
Keep Smiling [:)]
Thanks Scott for the blog and thread references - this may certainly explain why the KJV 1769 edition seems to be absent in Harrison's package. I was not aware that version had been discontinued for the new packages and also not currently being sold by Logos. It seems the only reason I have it would be because I bought an earlier package. Keep well Paul
You are correct. Logos has removed the AV1769 from current packages. I use the 1769 version when pasting into my sermons, but use the 1900 version for study since it has the interlinear.I do not care for the 1873 version. Logos used to give the AV1769 away free on floppy disks in 1.6 days. Perhaps Logos could provide it as a free download for those interested.
It seem like I do not have the " Authorized Version " in my package. I have the KJV(1900) and the Cambridge Paragraph (1873). I don't think the 1769 Authorized Version (shown above) is available any longer. Likely the product of a much earlier base package. See THIS THREAD and BLOG POST for more detailed information.
The Authorized Version 1769 is included in these 2 packages. There may be a few more packages that it's included. Here is the resource information of the copy that I have.
LLS:1.0.32014-10-08T23:17:25ZKJV.logos4
The citation information:
The Holy Bible: King James Version. Electronic ed. of the 1769 edition of the 1611 Authorized Version. Bellingham WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 1995.
Here are the 2 packages:
https://www.logos.com/product/8582/john-macarthur-essential-bible-study-library
https://www.logos.com/product/9438/amg-bible-essentials
EDIT: Added citation information.
