Nelson's New Illustrated Bible Commentary - Maps smudgy and distorted
Why are all the maps in this commentary smudgy and distorted to the point of where you cannot even read some of the names of the cities, towns, and rivers on them? It looks extremely bad! And I mean bad! Also, some of the pictures in this commentary look extremely bad as well. In a "Bible Commentary, " I would like to be able to view the maps and pictures clearly, as well as the text. This commentary really needs an upgrade badly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What support info do you have for this resource? Mine doesn't have many illustrations at all. Here is what I have:
What is really annoying to me are the pop out boxes:
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I do not know alabama24. How do I find out what support info I have?
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Ok got it alabama24. it is:
LLS:29.1.34
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There are small maps in this commentary that are really grainy so bad to the point of where you cannot read the names of the towns and places on them; and also pictures as well. These maps, pictures, and the pop-out boxes are in the HARDBACK COPY and they are CRYSTAL CLEAR. My question is: Why are they not clear in the ebook version on LOGOS?
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alabama24 said:
Here is what I have:
LLS:29.1.34
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NNIBC.lbxllsSame here,
alabama24 said:Mine doesn't have many illustrations at all.
but it has some 65 maps and about 100 illustrations !? (after all, it's Nelson's New Illustrated Bible Commentary).
The point is that the last update of this was 2002 - we are talking stone-age here. Actually, one is lucky to even get graphic materials for resources that old. I'd assume Nelson produced the visuals for their Libronix CDs by scanning the printed book pages - no hi-res graphic files. Maps and photos will show pixelation at higher zoom levels - that's to be expected and could be worse.
Have joy in the Lord!
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Well, NB. Mick, it is simply time for an overall update of this commentary, which should be done ASAP. Is it Thomas-Nelson that as to do the update, or Logos?????
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Wow! I just checked out the Kindle Direct Edition of this commentary on AMAZON, and it is superior to the one here on Logos. All the illustrations and maps are CRYSTAL-CLEAR and everything seems to be in good shape. So the ebook of this commentary seems to have been updated. Logos needs to get the most recent updated version!
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If I remember correctly, Thomas Nelson produced these books with Logos and sold or unlocked titles from their web site. now that Thomas Nelson has been bought by Zondervan I'm not sure what to expect. Titles like this would need to be completely rebuilt and that may be cost prohibited.
Just curious, Kenute, did you buy an old Libronix Thomas Nelson CD?
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Kenute P. Curry said:
Well, NB. Mick, it is simply time for an overall update of this commentary, which should be done ASAP. Is it Thomas-Nelson that as to do the update, or Logos?
Faithlife has taken production and updating 100% in their own responsibility (even if some steps may not be done in-house but outsourced). However, I'm not sure they will have access to better quality visuals and textfiles.
Have joy in the Lord!
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I feel called upon to yet defend Libby again, in the onslaught of unfair, and unsubstatiated Logosian attacks upon her honor (and map display prowess).
I screen copied Libby and Logos from a Nelson volume ealier than this one, which I don't have.
A pixeliferous comparison indicated:
- Libby had unclear writing, largely due to a poor color to BW conversion, highlighted on the fonts
- Logos simply doubled the Libbian pixel problem, and then due to reduced contrast, doubled-down again.
Chances are, the Amazonian version used better conversion algorythms from the original.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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NB.Mick said:
but it has some 65 maps and about 100 illustrations !? (after all, it's Nelson's New Illustrated Bible Commentary).
Thanks for those links. I scrolled and scrolled and scrolled and only found one.
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Kenute P. Curry said:
Yes, Bobby Terhune, it did come from an old Libronix Thomas -Nelson CD.
But one could buy it today and get the same resource: https://www.logos.com/resources/LLS_29.1.34/nelsons-new-illustrated-bible-commentary
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Thank you Denise for supplying all of the information, and helping me understand why the maps and illustrations are the way they are. Nevertheless, this Bible Commentary really needs to be updated to include all of the maps and illustrations clearly. Have also found quite a few "typos" which I have reported.
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Why should i buy it again NB.Mick, when I already have it. And if I do buy it, is it going to be the same, or will the maps and illustrations look any better?
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Kenute P. Curry said:
Why are all the maps in this commentary smudgy and distorted to the point of where you cannot even read some of the names of the cities, towns, and rivers on them? It looks extremely bad! And I mean bad! Also, some of the pictures in this commentary look extremely bad as well. In a "Bible Commentary, " I would like to be able to view the maps and pictures clearly, as well as the text. This commentary really needs an upgrade badly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello Kenute,
I am sorry for the issues you are having with the resource. I have placed this resource in the maintenance queue, but do not have an ETA on it's completion just yet.
Thank you for you patience!
Jannie
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Kenute P. Curry said:
Why should i buy it again NB.Mick, when I already have it.
I think you misunderstood. The resource looks like it does because it was last updated over a dozen years ago - however, whether someone got it via a CD or bought it this morning from the website, it will be the same, so how you got yours is not relevant to the issue.
Kenute P. Curry said:if I do buy it, is it going to be the same, or will the maps and illustrations look any better?
You should see the buy-button on it greyed out, since you own it. But if you do buy it, it will be the same. And once they update it, the update will go to every owner, regardless where they got the resource.
Hope this helps.
Have joy in the Lord!
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Thank you so much Jannie van Niekerk
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Thank you NB.Mick
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Jannie van Niekerk said:Kenute P. Curry said:
Why are all the maps in this commentary smudgy and distorted to the point of where you cannot even read some of the names of the cities, towns, and rivers on them? It looks extremely bad! And I mean bad! Also, some of the pictures in this commentary look extremely bad as well. In a "Bible Commentary, " I would like to be able to view the maps and pictures clearly, as well as the text. This commentary really needs an upgrade badly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello Kenute,
I am sorry for the issues you are having with the resource. I have placed this resource in the maintenance queue, but do not have an ETA on it's completion just yet.
Thank you for you patience!
Jannie
FWIW, when we did this volume originally (late 1990's) Thomas Nelson had no source for the graphics and simply told us to scan images straight from the book. It was as good as we could do at the time (and as good as TN would allow us). If it can be made better, Jannie's team will make it happen, I'm sure.
Also, if I remember correctly, each page had several different 'stories' frittered away in that typesetting application known as Quark xPress (is that still around?) (No, it didn't have the graphics, either). Anyway, stitching this thing back together was pretty much like putting together a jigsaw puzzle, only sometimes you had to make your own pieces when something seemed like it was missing.
Ahhhh, nostalgia.
Rick Brannan
Data Wrangler, Faithlife
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I just did a quick run through on this resource and my maps are generally fine. A few are white washed (appears to be too light of a scan), but they are still readable. Which maps are you specifically having difficulty with?
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Thank you Rick Brannan (Faithlife) for your insight, and taking the time to help me understand how this was formatted into an ebook. Thank you for putting it in the maintenance queue. It is much appreciated.
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