4.18 GB Download 6/1/15?
I see no orders I have being downloaded. Is this a massive update?
EDIT - I take it updates is the keyword in the photo...
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Is this a release of one of the large Journals offerings.
Are you on for the Near East Archaeological Society Bulletin (1958–2013) (78 issues) maybe?
Regards Kevin
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I aleady got a 4g about 2 weeks ago ... journals. I hope it's not 4g more! My marriage may need ending for a couple of months.
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Kevin A Lewis said:
Is this a release of one of the large Journals offerings.
Are you on for the Near East Archaeological Society Bulletin (1958–2013) (78 issues) maybe?
Regards Kevin
This is on order for me as well and yet my download is only 1.46 GB (did I just say ONLY?[:S])
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I've got 6.91Gb coming down, but I have no big orders placed, nor small orders being fulfilled today. I *did* sign up for the free Logos Cloud trial, which is starting today.... but wouldn't it be odd for a "cloud" product to require a 7Gb download?
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I didn't order journals or the cloud and I have a small 241MB download.
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it's Logos Cloud resources
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Ben said:
but wouldn't it be odd for a "cloud" product to require a 7Gb download?
I don't know whether these resources are Cloud resources but Logos Cloud resources will be accessible through the desktop app so it would make sense
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Mine says 3.91 GB. I know I just ordered the new book of the month for June and a couple of free books from Vyrso this morning. However, I don't know what I have that would require this much of a download. Now I have to go to a coffee shop today to download and complete this update.
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This is most definitely Logos Cloud resources. I got public domain stuff like "the works of Isaac Watts" as well as non-public domain books like Sheffield Bible Guides.
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Rokas said:
This is most definitely Logos Cloud resources.
That must be it. The journals didn't download yet so they may come later today.
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I guess I am glad I didn't sign up for LC. [:P]
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I got nothing. Does that mean I already own everything in Logos Cloud, or is there a step I've missed? I've joined the Faithlife group, but nothing else.
<edit>It came in the end. I got 68 new resources.</edit>
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Mark Barnes said:
I got nothing. Does that mean I already own everything in Logos Cloud, or is there a step I've missed? I've joined the Faithlife group, but nothing else.
Joining the group was all it took.
Maybe they realease in stages (if they really push out 2.4 [my size] to over 4 GB to 6k subscribers, that could be a prudent way to do it without crashing the servers)
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NB.Mick said:
Maybe they realease in stages (if they really push out 2.4 [my size] to over 4 GB to 6k subscribers, that could be a prudent way to do it without crashing the servers)
Logos resources are hosted on a CDN, so all that the Logos servers themselves need to do is update our licence files.
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2.33 GB downloading here. Big download but looking forward to checking out the LC for a few weeks.
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Mark Barnes said:
I got 68 new resources
I thought "cloud" was for new users and not those already owning large libraries. And as has been exemplified in your previous posts over the years, you already have a significant library.
Have I misunderstood "Cloud"?
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James Taylor said:
Have I misunderstood "Cloud"?
Nope.
FL has sent mixed messages... but only insomuch as PR goes. Logos Now is (generally) for current users who prefer to purchase resources. Logos Cloud is (generally) for new users who prefer to rent resources. FL has discouraged users from signing up for both Logos Now and Logos Cloud... and yet they invited everyone to sign up for a free month of Logos Cloud.
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Awesome Todd! Glad to hear it.
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James Taylor said:
I thought "cloud" was for new users and not those already owning large libraries.
But, depending on what one's library actually has, it could still be worth it. It's just much less likely to be worth it.
EDIT: In my case, it's over 5 GB downloading now, but my theological affiliation is safely outside Logos Cloud's target market, so I don't know how much will be useful to me for this month. Either way, I'll find out soon!
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Yes, if you are a part of the Logos Cloud Faithlife Group, you will get an update.
Logos Cloud is accessible in 3 ways:
1. Desktop - which requires new (and existing) users to download
2. Mobile - the existing Logos Mobile App should provide this experience.
3. Web App - app.logos.com (still in Beta) is the last, and least recommended way for now, to access Logos Cloud.
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SineNomine said:
But, depending on what one's library actually has, it could still be worth it.
There's definitely some cool stuff in there. Mytag:Cloud gives 1059 resources and I thought I had a large library.
Some stuff I thought I would never be able to afford, such as Barth's Church Dogmatics,Lexham Bible Guide, EEC and some I was tempted to go for (Black's NT Commentary, Themelios).
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NB.Mick said:SineNomine said:
But, depending on what one's library actually has, it could still be worth it.
There's definitely some cool stuff in there. Mytag:Cloud gives 1059 resources and I thought I had a large library.
Some stuff I thought I would never be able to afford, such as Barth's Church Dogmatics,Lexham Bible Guide, EEC and some I was tempted to go for (Black's NT Commentary, Themelios).
See, none of the stuff you mentioned I particularly care about, although I certainly understand why you do. Of what's downloaded so far, the two titles I've noticed that I am interested in are one by Josephus and another on St. Basil of Caesarea. So a very different target market!
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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SineNomine said:
See, none of the stuff you mentioned I particularly care about, although I certainly understand why you do. Of what's downloaded so far, the two titles I've noticed that I am interested in are one by Josephus and another on St. Basil of Caesarea. So a very different target market!
Sure. On the other hand I only noticed the stuff that I don't own already. Which still is a lot (okay, they inflate the numbers with hundreds of Qumran manuscripts you might be interested in which I am not). It will be interesting to see the promised product collections.
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NB.Mick said:SineNomine said:
See, none of the stuff you mentioned I particularly care about, although I certainly understand why you do. Of what's downloaded so far, the two titles I've noticed that I am interested in are one by Josephus and another on St. Basil of Caesarea. So a very different target market!
Sure. On the other hand I only noticed the stuff that I don't own already. Which still is a lot (okay, they inflate the numbers with hundreds of Qumran manuscripts you might be interested in which I am not). It will be interesting to see the promised product collections.
I don't care about Qumran manuscripts either. [:P] Where what's downloading is of interest to me is in patristic-related stuff, authors like Josephus and Erasmus, and some of the reference materials, which I wouldn't buy at anything like full price but will probably use and appreciate for the next month for free (like the Baker Encyclopedia of the Bible). Unless there's a Catholic (or Orthodox) commentary set or something just waiting to be downloaded, where things will get really interesting for me is with Verbum Cloud.
From what's downloaded so far, Logos Cloud at this level looks to me like a very good offering for at least most people from backgrounds targeted by present Logos base packages.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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James Taylor said:
I thought "cloud" was for new users and not those already owning large libraries. And as has been exemplified in your previous posts over the years, you already have a significant library.
Have I misunderstood "Cloud"?
No, you've not misunderstood. I won't be subscribing to Cloud, because Logos Now meets my needs much better.
But I was curious, and it was free...
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Mark Barnes said:
I got nothing. Does that mean I already own everything in Logos Cloud, or is there a step I've missed? I've joined the Faithlife group, but nothing else.
<edit>It came in the end. I got 68 new resources.</edit>
I got 59 new resources. I gave these a tag (LogosCloud) so I can check if I want to buy some.
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Mark Barnes said:
it was free...
Yep, worked out to be 198 books for me to use for free this month. thanks for pushing over edge into the cloud
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600mb and 80 resources for me.
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NB.Mick said:
Mytag:Cloud
thanks for the tip. Now in combination with the latest update allowing us to select and tag multiple books at a time, this is an excellent way to sort quickly.
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So how do I separate the 29-volume Community Pricing volumes that just came out (Classic Studies on the Apostolic Fathers) that I own from the 310 Cloud resources that I don't own? I want to tag them separately.
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NB.Mick said:
There's definitely some cool stuff in there. Mytag:Cloud gives 1059 resources and I thought I had a large library.
Some stuff I thought I would never be able to afford, such as Barth's Church Dogmatics,Lexham Bible Guide, EEC and some I was tempted to go for (Black's NT Commentary, Themelios).
Right! Same here. I thought this would be fun to play with and see what comes up. I had no idea that it would be this much fun!
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Pam Larson said:
So how do I separate the 29-volume Community Pricing volumes that just came out (Classic Studies on the Apostolic Fathers) that I own from the 310 Cloud resources that I don't own? I want to tag them separately.
Faithlife will soon create an in-program collection containing only the Logos Cloud resources.
EDIT: What that on its own probably won't tell you is which resources Logos Cloud provides you already had, but combining the collection with when stuff was updated should give you what you're looking for.
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Pam, I think the cloud problem is on the Logos radar. Phil's words. Weather guy!
If you're in a hurry, the bulk of the apostolics are in several series. Then tag the few remaining singles. Tonight's all-nighter is the Papias one; Wow.
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You might want to think this through before some of you get too excited. I got 589 new resources. Now if I was to subscribe to this level at $49.99 per month, I would have paid more in 9 months than it would have cost to upgrade to the Diamond Level under the Dynamic Pricing scheme. At $99.99 per month I can pay off the Dynamic Price for the Collector's in just over 3 years. So if you already have a substantial library, you had better look at your dynamic pricing and compare it to what it will cost you to rent. Unless Logos makes a substantial allowance for already purchased resources as a few have suggested, there's very little incentive for those of us who have large libraries to use Logos Cloud.
Longtime Logos user (more than $30,000 in purchases) - now a second class user because I won't pay them more every month or year.
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Alex Scott said:
You might want to think this through before some of you get too excited. I got 589 new resources. Now if I was to subscribe to this level at $49.99 per month, I would have paid more in 9 months than it would have cost to upgrade to the Diamond Level under the Dynamic Pricing scheme. At $99.99 per month I can pay off the Dynamic Price for the Collector's in just over 3 years. So if you already have a substantial library, you had better look at your dynamic pricing and compare it to what it will cost you to rent. Unless Logos makes a substantial allowance for already purchased resources as a few have suggested, there's very little incentive for those of us who have large libraries to use Logos Cloud.
And this is consistent with what Phil said at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/105182/727371.aspx#727371
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Graham Criddle said:Alex Scott said:
You might want to think this through before some of you get too excited. I got 589 new resources. Now if I was to subscribe to this level at $49.99 per month, I would have paid more in 9 months than it would have cost to upgrade to the Diamond Level under the Dynamic Pricing scheme. At $99.99 per month I can pay off the Dynamic Price for the Collector's in just over 3 years. So if you already have a substantial library, you had better look at your dynamic pricing and compare it to what it will cost you to rent. Unless Logos makes a substantial allowance for already purchased resources as a few have suggested, there's very little incentive for those of us who have large libraries to use Logos Cloud.
And this is consistent with what Phil said at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/105182/727371.aspx#727371
Yes, it is consistent. However, I wish there were a Cloud option that was configured similar to dynamic pricing. I understand this from FL's perspective, though, why it would be tough to implement.
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This trial/beta program may make some people wanna sign-up for the cloud just because of the resources they're missing. Marketing marketing marketing..
Smart..
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mike said:
This trial/beta program may make some people wanna sign-up for the cloud just because of the resources they're missing.
I have a good library already and it's got me thinking. The Cloud added almost 1300 resources to my library. Some are things I'll never need but things like ICC, Vos, and Owen standout at this point...Thanks for the free trial Logos.
Cheers,
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NB.Mick said:
Mytag:Cloud
I'm going to do this too. It is a pretty simple way of keeping them straight.
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alabama24 said:
I guess I am glad I didn't sign up for LC.
It did not take me long to regret subscribing. Just taught my wife how to find Bibles on her iPad. She will not be happy wading through 269 Lexham Press DSS resources. She also will not enjoy having to add "language:English" to the equation.
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I think there was someone in the past who complained that a brick is no house, and asked for a datatype bible manuscript for all the papyri that are treated as bibles, too. Didn't get much traction.Jack Caviness said:Just taught my wife how to find Bibles on her iPad. She will not be happy wading through 269 Lexham Press DSS resources. She also will not enjoy having to add "language:English" to the equation.
But be glad, you can now also teach her about collections and perhaps even hiding resources!
Have joy in the Lord!
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NB.Mick said:
But be glad, you can now also teach her about collections and perhaps even hiding resources!
I purchased my first Mac in 1984. Then it only took until 2004 to get her to use one. [:D]
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All,
We’ve shipped a Collections file for Logos Cloud so you can quickly and easily see the resources you have access to with Logos Cloud.
1. Go to Logos Cloud Faithlife Group Documents in the Faithlife Group
3. Click on the “Actions” button to the right of Logos Cloud Premium. (note: it may be hidden, it will show up on mouse-over).
4. Open your app, go to the Tools menu and click on “Collections" in the drop down.
5. Click on Open and click on "Logos Cloud Premium" in the drop down.
If you don’t see Logos Cloud Premium in the drop down, click on the sync arrows in the upper right next to layout and try again.
Hope that helps.
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Chris duMond said:
All,
We’ve shipped a Collections file for Logos Cloud so you can quickly and easily see the resources you have access to with Logos Cloud.
1. Go to Logos Cloud Faithlife Group Documents in the Faithlife Group
3. Click on the “Actions” button to the right of Logos Cloud Premium. (note: it may be hidden, it will show up on mouse-over).
4. Open your app, go to the Tools menu and click on “Collections" in the drop down.
5. Click on Open and click on "Logos Cloud Premium" in the drop down.
If you don’t see Logos Cloud Premium in the drop down, click on the sync arrows in the upper right next to layout and try again.
Hope that helps.
Thanks Chris!
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Chris duMond said:
We’ve shipped a Collections file for Logos Cloud so you can quickly and easily see the resources you have access to with Logos Cloud.
Thanks for setting up the collection Chris. It makes it easier to navigate the cloud resources.
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Thanks, Chris. That makes it easy to figure out what is a cloud resource, but it doesn't distinguish between Cloud resources that I don't own from the ones that I do own. This will be an issue at the end of the trial period. I hope something can be worked out to deal with this situation. (Marking everything added to my library on the same day I got the Cloud resources was overly ambitious since I received over a dozen other things I paid for.)
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Lew Worthington said:
(Marking everything added to my library on the same day I got the Cloud resources was overly ambitious since I received over a dozen other things I paid for.)
But those wouldn't be part of the collection, would they?
You could limit your library to Cloud Premium and then sort by last updated
EDIT: see this screenshot
Library shows only the 1998 resources from Logos Cloud Premium collection, sorted by last update (purple boxes).
Everything that came prior to Monday's Cloudburst is owned and not tagged as Cloud (green boxes). Dunn's Commentary on Galatians in the Black's NT commentary series is special since it came on Monday but I own it - it's in June's Monthly Sale and I bought it. I knew about that when I tagged, but you may check your order history too make sure.
Tagging with mytag was easy on Monday, but relying on last updated will become less precise should you buy Cloud items from the monthly sale or should Logos update a Cloud resource in June.
Have joy in the Lord!
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