I want to create a visual filter of all the times Luke refers to Jesus as Lord. I don't know how to enter greek text in the search box, and, of course, the search would look for all forms of the word and not just the lemma.
Help!
I want to create a visual filter of all the times Luke refers to Jesus as Lord. I don't know how to enter greek text in the search box, and, of course, the search would look for all forms of the word and not just the lemma. Help!
Larry, open a copy of Luke and find an occurence of 'Lord'. Highlight it, right-click, and choose Lemma. Then you can go to the left column and click Copy to get a copy of the Lemma to paste into your VF box.
Type g: then enter the word either in Greek or typing phonetically.
For example g:ky will generate a drop down with kyrios being the first word.
It may be easier however to simply copy and paste the lemma.
I tried that for a search, but how do I limit my search to, say, the gospel of luke rather than all open resources or entire Bibles
thank you. now does the visual filter highlight all forms of the greek word or just the lemma?
Larry, in the VF, click on All Passages, and at the bottom of the drop-down, type 'Luke' in both boxes and hit Save. Then 'Luke' will appear as a choice in the top of your drop-down list.
thank you.
Larry, you'll have to tweak your results. Once the search looks like you want, you can convert it to a VF.
Getting the search exactly like you want it may be a bit above my pay grade...one of the more experiences searches may have to jump in and help with that. I always struggle with these...I know what I want, but I can't always figure out how to tell Logos what I want.
Larry, to enter Greek text into the search box, you would type in an English phonetic spelling such as "g:kurios" (without the quotes) and the same goes for Hebrew "h:elohim" (which would then bring up a dropdown menu of the most likely Greek (or Hebrew) spelling.
thank you
If I understand the search correctly, you have to pick 'manuscript' if you only want to search for that particular form. 'Lemma' would search for all words that use that lemma. 'Root' is even broader, IIRC (but ask a Gk scholar about that one).
I just did a search for kurios in Luke, but the results only showed verses where the lemma occurs. How would I get results for all the forms?
Depending on your purpose, this method will get all words translated Lord when there are multiple words.
you'll need to put lemma: in front, so you'll get lemma:κύριος which will find all forms of this lemma and which you can turn into a VF
Edit:
Again, I'm not the best source of help with this, but it seems I'm the one paying attention right now.
Perhaps staying in the English will get you what you want. Try:
lord ANDNOT <Person God>
Never mind me...the real help has arrived!
Try: lord ANDNOT <Person God>
Try:
By the way, just because this search works on Logos in NO WAY makes me anti-trinitarian!! [:D]
I went to guides, bible word study, put in kurios, and got everything except a list of all the verses in Luke where the word is used. I got a pie like you show, but no list of the verses
I want to create a visual filter of all the times Luke refers to Jesus as Lord.
Larry, what I tried to show you above was finding (and then highlighting in a VF) all instances where a form of kyrios is used in the Greek text of Luke - some of them will not refer to Jesus.
The search syntax lemma:xxxxx with xxxx being a greek word in lemma form is a morph search. To go further, we best switch now to bible search (it will automatically convert the existing search into the more cryptic format bible search uses for lemmas). We only want those verses, where the word kyrios is referring to Jesus:
(([field bible, content] <Lemma = lbs/el/κύριος>) WITHIN 0-0 WORDS <Person Jesus>
You have to click on a word on the ring to get the verses to show.
this isn't working. I'm in a morph search with lemma:kurios (yes, in Greek), and I got no results.
I need to go on to other things now. I learned a little today, but all I wanted to.
A big thanks to all who tried to help me.
this isn't working. I'm in a morph search with lemma:kurios (yes, in Greek), and I got no results. I need to go on to other things now. I learned a little today, but all I wanted to. A big thanks to all who tried to help me.
This is why my signature says what it says. Sorry about the frustration and that I didn't know enough to get you to where you needed to be. The same thing happens to me regularly.
Hi Larry
Not sure if you will be coming back to this but thought I would put together a short video summarising some of the ideas suggested earlier to show one way of creating the Visual Filter you are looking for. It is available at http://screencast.com/t/MH5OdzsIzN
Hope this helps, Graham
I don't know of Larry saw it yet, but it was certainly helpful.
Now let me stretch you a bit. This is the part I couldn't figure out. How do you remove the instances that Lord is used in reference to God the Father and leave only the references to God the Son? Using <Person Jesus> or ANDNOT <Person God> didn't seem to get the right hits for me.
I didn't count how many times that occurred, but thought I saw a handful of them when I did my original search.
Now let me stretch you a bit. This is the part I couldn't figure out. How do you remove the instances that Lord is used in reference to God the Father and leave only the references to God the Son?
Sorry - I missed that in the original request
Try the search string "lemma:κύριος WITHIN 0 WORDS <Person Jesus>"
This will find all Greek terms where the lemma matches kurios which is then overlaid with a tag for Jesus.
There may be some verses which seem omitted - reference to "the Lord" in Luke 2:11 for example - but that becomes a tagging decision / question.[:)]
How do you remove the instances that Lord is used in reference to God the Father and leave only the references to God the Son? Using <Person Jesus> or ANDNOT <Person God> didn't seem to get the right hits for me.
Try <Lemma = lbs/el/κύριος> WITHIN 0 WORDS (<Person Jesus> NOTEQUALS <Person God>) in a Greek NT bible like SBLGNT. I won't vouch for accuracy with Reverse interlinears!
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