How do you find the last page read in a book?

Terry Stewart
Terry Stewart Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Hello,

I'm trying to find out how I can get to the last page I have read in a book.  For some reason the sync point is going back to the title page of the book.  However it says I have read 71% of the book.  It has been a few months since I read from it and do not remember where I left off.  Is there any way to find the last page read?  It seems like there should be since it knows that I've made it 71% through.

Thanks,

Terry Stewart

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,207

    If sync isn't working when you close/open a book between sessions then use the Favorites/Bookmark feature (Tools menu). Drag the resource tab to Favorites to save position or use a CTRL+number key. Alternatively, drag a resource tab to the Shortcut bar.

    Help >> Bookmark will give you more detail.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Terry Stewart
    Terry Stewart Member Posts: 10 ✭✭

    Thanks, Dave,  But what I'm looking for is how to find out where I am in the book.  Sync usually works.  I can use bookmarks in the future, but I need to find out where I left off before I can bookmark it.

    Have a blessed day!

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,266

    Thanks, Dave,  But what I'm looking for is how to find out where I am in the book.  Sync usually works.  I can use bookmarks in the future, but I need to find out where I left off before I can bookmark it.

    Normally, every book opens where you last left it.

    One idea might be to open the book from the history pane (Tools/History) - probaby an entry from the last session would work best.

    If you have auto bookmarks turned on, you should see some "wear marks" in the horizontal scrollbar.

     

    (if not, this may be not helping right now, since L6 probably didn't capture the necessary usage stats to show them)

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Ronald Quick
    Ronald Quick Member Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭

    If you made any highlights or notes close to the last page you read, opening up that document and it might give you a general idea.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,464 ✭✭✭✭

    Terry, I think you may be confused. Logos books are to be 'searched'. Or 'linked'. Or 'researched' using the carefully crafted Logos tools.

    You're not supposed to 'read' the books. That's for mobile. 

    Luckily Logos always provides a workaround. Buy a mobile ... iPad, etc. Load the Logos app. Then load the book you were reading.  The black stripe of death will appear warning you where your furtherest point is (and that you may be dangerously not there).  Then remember that page and go back to your desktop version. Type it in.

    I'm joking of course. I've no idea why Dave's solution is your best.  Even on mobile, sometimes I have to reread an earlier passage.  I want to return to the furtherest ... I restart the app!

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • John Goodman
    John Goodman Member Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭

    Lol - I've never had any problem reading books in logos, laptop or mobile. In fact laptop is my preference. I think books open to last page viewed rather than furthest page viewed. I'm not aware of a way to find the furthest page it would be a handy feature though!

    גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

  • Terry Stewart
    Terry Stewart Member Posts: 10 ✭✭

    Thank you: NB.Mick, Ronald Quick, and Denise.  So far no luck.  I don't know why it can show me that I have completed 71% of the book, but has no way to go to the last read page.  It needs a quick way to do so.  I have tried on my PC, phone, and my tablet.  All to no avail.  For some reason my history is almost completely empty.  Maybe one of the updates over the last several months changed something.  I guess I will have to just guess where I left off.  It has been probably 6 or 7 months, so it will be a guess.

    Again thank you all for your help.

    Terry Stewart

  • Terry Stewart
    Terry Stewart Member Posts: 10 ✭✭

    I think that is the problem.  It is going to the last page I had opened it to instead of my farthest point.  This is the first time I have had this problem.  I read across all my devices depending on where I am.  My laptop being the best choice because of screen and text size.  It seems funny that this feature is not already available.  Logos mods, any help?

    Thanks John,  have a blessed day.

    Terry Stewart

    Lol - I've never had any problem reading books in logos, laptop or mobile. In fact laptop is my preference. I think books open to last page viewed rather than furthest page viewed. I'm not aware of a way to find the furthest page it would be a handy feature though!

  • Terry Stewart
    Terry Stewart Member Posts: 10 ✭✭

    I think that is the problem.  It is going to the last page I had opened it to instead of my farthest point.  This is the first time I have had this problem.  I read across all my devices depending on where I am.  My laptop being the best choice because of screen and text size.  It seems funny that this feature is not already available.  Logos mods, any help?

    Thanks John,  have a blessed day.

    Terry Stewart

    Lol - I've never had any problem reading books in logos, laptop or mobile. In fact laptop is my preference. I think books open to last page viewed rather than furthest page viewed. I'm not aware of a way to find the furthest page it would be a handy feature though!

  • Matthew
    Matthew Member Posts: 941 ✭✭

    I could be wrong, but I believe there is a distinction between the percentage read statistic and the furthest page read, and by that I mean that is a book is 50% read, that does not necessarily mean it was the first 50% that was read. The person may have jumped around in the book, only read certain chapters, etc. It is for this reason that the percentage read is worthless for re-opening to the last page read. As far as the furthest page read goes, I do not know that I would even want Logos to automatically jump there. What if I read the final pages to get an idea of the author's ultimate conclusion or took a peak at the index or bibliography at the end? Using the metric of the furthest page read, Logos would keep trying to point me to the end of the book when in reality I might still be much closer to the beginning in terms of actual reading. Hopefully that makes sense. 

  • Terry Stewart
    Terry Stewart Member Posts: 10 ✭✭

    Thanks Matthew,

    Makes since, but still no help for my problem.  There should still be some way to get to the farthest point read.  What you say makes a lot of since for a text book, but for a book that would normally be read in sequence it would be helpful to go to the last point read.  Skipping around in many of the books I have in my library would not make since.  They build on earlier chapters.  I understand there are those who must read the final page in a novel to see how it ends and then read the rest of the book, so this would not help them, but those who read from start to finish it would.  Does not have to automatically jump to the last point read, but an option would make a lot of since.  Right click menu maybe.

    Terry Stewart

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,012 ✭✭✭

    What might have even wide applicability is the ability to simply see what parts of the book have been read. That way when reading a book straight through, it would be obvious where one was. If one was reading different chapters (perhaps in an edited collection of papers), which papers one had read would be obvious. If one had read an entire year-long daily readings book without missing a reading and it still only showed 84% read, one could see where the program was wrong... *cough*

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • Terry Stewart
    Terry Stewart Member Posts: 10 ✭✭

    SineNomine,

    That would actually be the best way.  It would be especially helpful in say magazines where there are many articles per edition or in research/text books and many other format, and would still help in the sequential reading.  Esp. if there was a per book reset so you could read through another time and still track where you were.  I like your idea.  I can see many benefits.

    Terry Stewart

    What might have even wide applicability is the ability to simply see what parts of the book have been read. That way when reading a book straight through, it would be obvious where one was. If one was reading different chapters (perhaps in an edited collection of papers), which papers one had read would be obvious. If one had read an entire year-long daily readings book without missing a reading and it still only showed 84% read, one could see where the program was wrong... *cough*

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it's been a long time since I left off reading a book, I often can't start back up again where I left off, because I've forgotten what I was reading. I often have to go back several pages, or even a whole chapter, to get back into it. So I do think it would be helpful for Logos to be able to show me the farthest point that I'd read to, but I would also have to use my own experience of looking back near those pages to decide where to actually start back up again reading.

    I should think that in the present case, since there seems to be no way for you to find out exactly where you were, if you use the scroll bar to drag to approximately 70% through the book, and page around there for a bit, you'll begin to find bits of it that look familiar to you. Keep paging down until you hit a section that doesn't look at all familiar, and then back up a few pages from there and start reading. You'll get back into it soon enough.

  • Terry Stewart
    Terry Stewart Member Posts: 10 ✭✭

    Rosie,

    That is exactly my problem and exactly what I chose to do.  I went back to the last chapter I know for sure I have read and started there again.

    Terry Stewart

    If it's been a long time since I left off reading a book, I often can't start back up again where I left off, because I've forgotten what I was reading. I often have to go back several pages, or even a whole chapter, to get back into it. So I do think it would be helpful for Logos to be able to show me the farthest point that I'd read to, but I would also have to use my own experience of looking back near those pages to decide where to actually start back up again reading.

    I should think that in the present case, since there seems to be no way for you to find out exactly where you were, if you use the scroll bar to drag to approximately 70% through the book, and page around there for a bit, you'll begin to find bits of it that look familiar to you. Keep paging down until you hit a section that doesn't look at all familiar, and then back up a few pages from there and start reading. You'll get back into it soon enough.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is exactly my problem and exactly what I chose to do.  I went back to the last chapter I know for sure I have read and started there again.

    Great. Glad you solved it. Logos could certainly help make that process a bit easier, but I think if it's been a while since you were reading there, it's still going to take some mental gymnastics regardless.

  • David A Egolf
    David A Egolf Member Posts: 798 ✭✭

    I typically get part way into a book before other things divert my attention.  It is common for me to partially read several books when preparing a topic for class.  As class time draws near, I realize that I won't be able to finish.  However, that doesn't mean I don't want to pick it up at a later date.

    As a result, I have several books on the back burner.  During class preparation I will sometimes rummage around in these same books looking for particular material.  This ruins any automated "bookmark" and guarantees that the next time I open it will not be to my reading point.

    I had tried bookmarks in the past and found them to be not convenient, especially when moving between PC and mobile.  Bookmarks on PC Kindle reader solves this problem nicely; i.e., coming back to a reading point in a book even after peeking ahead.

    After much thought, I concluded that once I determined that I wanted to finish a book I would create a Reading Plan.  I no longer have to rely on the software guessing whether I have "read" any particular section.  The only drawback I see is that some books, like systematic theologies, are not necessarily read in page order.  It would be nice if the reading plan allowed you to mark chapters "read" as soon as they were complete.

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,529

    It would be nice if the reading plan allowed you to mark chapters "read" as soon as they were complete.

    You can right click on any reading in the reading plan to mark that reading as completed.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Larry
    Larry Member Posts: 101 ✭✭

    This is a big problem for me. 

    For instance, I was reading Schaeffer, and I went back to look at some previous passages. I went away from it for a while, and now I can't find where I was. When I open it, it goes to the last page viewed. When I open it in mobile, it goes to the title page. 

    This is a major drawback for reading. It's why I prefer the Kindle app because there is a "sync to furthest point read." 

    IMO, this is something that needs a quick fix. It would greatly help the reading process.

  • Terry Stewart
    Terry Stewart Member Posts: 10 ✭✭

    I completely agree Larry.  I find it hard to believe with as long as Logos has been out it has not already been fixed.  Then again this is the first time I ran into the problem, and I have been a Logos user for many years.  It is an important issue though.  Maybe someone from Logos will read these and chime in.

    Terry Stewart

    Larry said:

    This is a big problem for me. 

    For instance, I was reading Schaeffer, and I went back to look at some previous passages. I went away from it for a while, and now I can't find where I was. When I open it, it goes to the last page viewed. When I open it in mobile, it goes to the title page. 

    This is a major drawback for reading. It's why I prefer the Kindle app because there is a "sync to furthest point read." 

    IMO, this is something that needs a quick fix. It would greatly help the reading process.

  • David A Egolf
    David A Egolf Member Posts: 798 ✭✭

    You can right click on any reading in the reading plan to mark that reading as completed.

    Thank you.  That helps.  Now if I could just see ahead of my current reading and, finally (I can be hard to please) mark the advanced readings within the resource.  If I have elected to see all readings, then already "read" selections should be so marked within the text.

    As it is, I will experiment with your method and see what it looks like when I read a selection in advance, then encounter the "read" selection while I am reading from the prior unread selection.  It will be interesting to see what happens when I mark the prior selection "read".

  • David A Egolf
    David A Egolf Member Posts: 798 ✭✭

    Larry said:

    This is a big problem for me. 

    For instance, I was reading Schaeffer, and I went back to look at some previous passages. I went away from it for a while, and now I can't find where I was. When I open it, it goes to the last page viewed. When I open it in mobile, it goes to the title page. 

    This is a major drawback for reading. It's why I prefer the Kindle app because there is a "sync to furthest point read." 

    IMO, this is something that needs a quick fix. It would greatly help the reading process.

    I tend to disagree.  While your case would help you find your place because you scanned backwards,  I would just be as likely to scan forward in the text; thus, ruining the notion of "sync to furthest point read".  I am currently reading a book in Kindle which has a study guide at the end of the book.  In order to not mess up my automated bookmarks, I have avoided reading the study guide.  However, I will have to do that this week since we are putting together a course schedule based on it.

    On Kindle I rely most heavily on the ability to place a bookmark visually on the page. It can later be located in the same menu as the TOC.  I believe that Logos should consider bookmarks which are bundled with the resource rather than in Favorites.  That way one could have many bookmarks.  Labels on the bookmarks would be even better.

  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,722 ✭✭✭

    I believe that Logos should consider bookmarks which are bundled with the resource rather than in Favorites.  That way one could have many bookmarks.  Labels on the bookmarks would be even better.

    That, I like!  [Y]

  • Steve Farrell
    Steve Farrell Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    Great question and discussion.  I just called Logos to ask this very question and was basically told they do not provide training over the phone.  Very frustrating for something so extremely basic.  I suspect the CSR had no idea since he pretty much mumbled a bit before giving me his reply.  Disappointing that I can't read my books without having to recall the last page I was reading on my own.  So much to learn.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,464 ✭✭✭✭

    Steve, those look like nice flowers!  

    The challenge here is Logos' penchant for fragmenting the user interface, carefully and thoughtfully.

    Back at the start of Logos4, they came up with the idea of treadmarks on the scrollbar.  Now, maybe I'm wrong, but that predated Kindle's treadmarks.  The problem was, there were so many treadmarks, searchmarks, etc everyone (an exageration) demanded to turn them off.  Logos did so, but angrily refused to let users simply erase old treadmarks to avoid so many.  It was a great idea gone horribly wrong.

    Then Logos did the mobile apps.  Being less emotional, the mobilers kept the users' pinkies off tread-removal, but did use more common sense ... just a few recent marks. Very smart. Also they showed total user contact, by bending the treadscroll into a circle. Wa-la ... piechart!  Impressively cute, the desktoppers copied their idea (while protecting the treadmarks at all cost).

    The mobilers were sorely miff-ified.  What could they do that the desktoppers would absolutely refuse to copy??  Ergo the now well known 'Black Stripe of Death' to show furtherest position on the apps.  The desktoppers were mortified.

    This gentlemen, is why you struggle mightily on your desktop.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • John Goodman
    John Goodman Member Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭

    The percentage of a book that is read seems to be quite arbitrary to me. I have read whole books which show as only a little read and barely touched others that are quite far along...

    גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe that Logos should consider bookmarks which are bundled with the resource rather than in Favorites.  That way one could have many bookmarks.  Labels on the bookmarks would be even better.

    That would be a great feature. I need many more bookmarks than the 9 we are limited to. I'm often in the middle of more than 9 books at a time, and might want to save my place at more than one point in a book. Labels would be good too -- might want to label some bookmarks as being for a particular course I'm taking, others for personal enrichment, others just random.

  • Manny Santiago
    Manny Santiago Member Posts: 14 ✭✭

    I am in complete agreement with everyone. A simple bookmark should have been a simple default feature in LOGOS, Vyrso, Noet, etc. I really hope that Logos would incorporate this soon.

  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning MVP Posts: 11,163

    I believe that Logos should consider bookmarks which are bundled with the resource rather than in Favorites.  That way one could have many bookmarks.  Labels on the bookmarks would be even better.

    Great suggestion. This would solve a lot of issues.

    Using adventure and community to challenge young people to continually say "yes" to God

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A simple bookmark should have been a simple default feature in LOGOS

    There is a simple bookmark feature by default. That's not what people have been complaining about. But it's limited to only 9 bookmarks, across all your books.