Search: God's faithfulness
What would be the best way to find verses that speak of God's faithfulness?
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A Factbook search on the theme of God's Faithfulness could be a good start
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Believe it or not, I think you'd get far better results with Google than with Logos for something like that. You would have to wade through some insignificant stuff, but I've found that ultimately Google does this type of search far better than Logos.
I just went to Google and typed in "faithfulness of God verses" and the first link gave me 21 verses, the third link gave me 49. And that is with just reading the headings on Google - I didn't have to read through any sites.
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Al Het said:
Believe it or not, I think you'd get far better results with Google than with Logos for something like that.
Did you check the Logos search I suggested?
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I'd search in my Topical Bible Indexes collection for the two words God and faithful (in Heading Text and Large Text, with "match all word forms" on), rather than a phrase, so that it would pick up either "faithfulness of God" or "God's faithfulness" or "God as faithful" etc.
That finds such lists of verses as this one in The New Topical Textbook.
And this one in Collins Thesaurus of the Bible:
My Topical Bible Indexes collection includes:
- An Analytical Concordance to the Holy Scriptures; or, The Bible Presented under Distinct and Classified Heads or Topics
- Catholic Topical Index
- Collins Thesaurus of the Bible
- Dictionary of Bible Themes
- The Divine Armory of Holy Scripture
- The Handbook of Bible Application
- Nelson’s Topical Bible Index
- New Dictionary of Biblical Theology
- New Nave’s Topical Bible
- The New Topical Text Book: A Scripture Text Book for the Use of Ministers, Teachers, and All Christian Workers
- New Topical Textbook
- Perfect Illustrations: For Every Topic and Occasion
- The Thematic Bible: Passage Register
- The Thematic Bible: Topical Analysis
- Topical Analysis of the Bible
- Vine’s Complete Expository Dictionary Topic Finder
- What Does the Bible Say About…
- Where to Find It in the Bible
- Willmington’s Book of Bible Lists
- The Word on Finances: Topical Scriptures and Commentary
Once you've found some good groups of verses this way, you can add them to a passage list by selecting the section in question in one of those resources, pressing Ctrl+C to copy (or Cmd+C on a mac), then going to an open Passage List and choosing Add from Clipboard. Do this for each of the resources where you found a relevant list of verses (always adding them into the same PL). Once you've added them all, click Sort to sort in canonical order, which will also remove any duplicates. And voila! I've come up with 42 unique passages just between those two resources I shows screenshots of above. There are no doubt a few more if I were to do this with all my topical resources.
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Josh Hunt said:
What would be the best way to find verses that speak of God's faithfulness?
In addition to what has already been said, I'll plug one of my favorite resources, Dictionary of Bible Themes. I have found this to be very helpful it getting started with various topics and themes.
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Al Het said:
Believe it or not, I think you'd get far better results with Google than with Logos for something like that. You would have to wade through some insignificant stuff, but I've found that ultimately Google does this type of search far better than Logos.
I just went to Google and typed in "faithfulness of God verses" and the first link gave me 21 verses, the third link gave me 49. And that is with just reading the headings on Google - I didn't have to read through any sites.
Many of the sites that Google brings up use the same resources that Logos does.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Graham Criddle said:
Did you check the Logos search I suggested?
It definitely does look like a good potential place to start, Graham. I'm not familiar with a "Factbook Search." I'm guessing it is something my old packages won't allow me to do, but I'm glad to have something new to look for.
That search as certainly produced a big list of verses. As usual, it depends quite a bit on what the OP is looking for, I guess. If I were looking for every Bible verse that has the two words in it, I would definitely use Logos and do a search. And, if I figured that number of verses would be small, (Like, say, "Jesus" and "swords") I would use Logos and never look back. However, if I wanted something more conceptual, where the idea could be conveyed with several different word combinations, I would search differently. I might search some of my general resources, like the "International Standard Bible Encyclopedia." However, my starting point would most likely be a general Google search. Google is no panacea, to be sure. However, I have often had pretty good results searching for concepts that always tend to take me a long time to find what I want with Logos.
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MJ. Smith said:
Many of the sites that Google brings up use the same resources that Logos does.
I'm sure that's true.
If I want to do an extensive study of a topic, I want to do the grunt-work myself. I wouldn't want to miss something that someone else thought was not significant, or might filter out. However, if I want to quickly find a particular passage that I can't quite remember where it is, or get a feel for some verses on a topic, I find it useful to visit those sites where people have used whatever tools, seemingly weeded through the stuff, and have pulled out what they find to be relevant passages. I might well disagree with what the relevant passages are, but visiting a few websites can sometimes give me a better rough list of Scriptures on a variety of topics than I can quickly pull together on a search on Logos.
Having said all that, Logos has definitely improved its search functions. Graham illustrated that.
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Al Het said:
I wouldn't want to miss something that someone else thought was not significant, or might filter out. However, if I want to quickly find a particular passage that I can't quite remember where it is, or get a feel for some verses on a topic, I find it useful to visit those sites where people have used whatever tools, seemingly weeded through the stuff, and have pulled out what they find to be relevant passages. I might well disagree with what the relevant passages are, but visiting a few websites can sometimes give me a better rough list of Scriptures on a variety of topics than I can quickly pull together on a search on Logos.
I use many basic searches which return results "untouched by human hands" but do find cases where I go to Google to find the information.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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