Logos & FaithLife Why the difference?
The Logos free + one is $1.99
But the Verbum free + one is only $.99 cent
The Extra $1.00 does make a difference in the long run..
What is the Deal?
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It used to be Logos free + one is .99, but for no apparent reason the price went up to Logos free + one is $1.99
And yes Lee, the extra $1.00 does make a difference in the long run.
Can anyone shed some light on this please?
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You can't blame Faithlife. It's just an extra dollar to you and an extra dollar to me. We can decide if the book is worth it or not. To Logos it's one dollar times a gazillion people. That is pretty close to a gazillion dollars. What would you do if it was your business?
What would be nice it it every book in Faithlife was 99 cents. Or free. Hint, hint.
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I love these free/cheap books each month, but every time I see the $.99/$1.99 ones I wonder: how much of that does Visa snatch up?
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Gao
My point is that as of Aug this year, The Protestant extra book is $1.00 more than the Catholic extra book. If Logos needs to charge us the extra $1.00 they should also make the Verbum book the same $1.00
I am saying it is only fair play..
Edited: Don't get me wrong I am very happy with Logos and all that they do give us. But after getting many of the second books for the extra $.99 cent and then having it changed to $1.99 I was just like umm...
I don't or at least have not gotten any of the Verbum or Noet free & plus one books because I had not interest in them.
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Lee said:
My point is that as of Aug this year, The Protestant extra book is $1.00 more than the Catholic extra book. If Logos needs to charge us the extra $1.00 they should also make the Verbum book the same $1.00
I am saying it is only fair play..
[notserious]So, for one of the first times--if not the very first time--in the entire history of Faithlife, Catholic customers customers get something very slightly better than Protestant ones and there are immediate complaints. [:O][/notserious] [:P]
[serious]$1.99 vs $.99 is a different marketing strategy. Fewer people will buy the first than the second, all things being equal. Faithlife may also still be paying royalties on some of the titles that it offers as monthly specials, and $1.99 makes that easier to do.
Besides that, I seem to recall at least one time where there was a free book, a $.99 book, and a $1.99 book on the Logos site.[/serious]
[notserious]Also, the Noet +1 this month is also only $.99, so there must be a conspiracy against Protestant customers not interested in the humanities.[/notserious]
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Gao Lu said:
You can't blame Faithlife. It's just an extra dollar to you and an extra dollar to me. We can decide if the book is worth it or not. To Logos it's one dollar times a gazillion people. That is pretty close to a gazillion dollars. What would you do if it was your business?
What would be nice it it every book in Faithlife was 99 cents. Or free. Hint, hint.
A gazillion dollars for Logos minus the royalty fees. [:)]
I have no complaints. There IS a difference between $1 to $2 and $100 to $200. A little exaggerated, but my point is, to give much thought to a price hike of 1 or 2 dollars may not be worth giving much thought to.
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Erwin Stull, Sr. said:Gao Lu said:
You can't blame Faithlife. It's just an extra dollar to you and an extra dollar to me. We can decide if the book is worth it or not. To Logos it's one dollar times a gazillion people. That is pretty close to a gazillion dollars. What would you do if it was your business?
What would be nice it it every book in Faithlife was 99 cents. Or free. Hint, hint.
A gazillion dollars for Logos minus the royalty fees.
I have no complaints. There IS a difference between $1 to $2 and $100 to $200. A little exaggerated, but my point is, to give much thought to a price hike of 1 or 2 dollars may not be worth giving much thought to.
thanks for making me think . . . but not too much. [;)]
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A gazillion people huh are you including Klingons and Vulcans [:P]
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Lee said:
My point is that as of Aug this year, The Protestant extra book is $1.00 more than the Catholic extra book. If Logos needs to charge us the extra $1.00 they should also make the Verbum book the same $1.00
I am saying it is only fair play..
Hmmm ... this isn't a very good argument when I discovered this week that Biblical Events in the Timeline is still limited to the shorter canon. The Bible Events Navigator is still limited to the shorter canon. .... Until Logos treats all the books of the Ecumenical NRSV canon equally (which includes Psalm 151 for the Psalm Explorer) ... I say Verbum users deserve more than a $1 discount [:P] [:D]
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MJ. Smith said:
Hmmm ... this isn't a very good argument when I discovered this week that Biblical Events in the Timeline is still limited to the shorter canon. The Bible Events Navigator is still limited to the shorter canon. .... Until Logos treats all the books of the Ecumenical NRSV canon equally (which includes Psalm 151 for the Psalm Explorer) ... I say Verbum users deserve more than a $1 discount
How about Faithlife use the shorter canon for Logos and the longer one for Verbum? That makes a lot of sense.
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Super.Tramp said:
How about Faithlife use the shorter canon for Logos and the longer one for Verbum? That makes a lot of sense.
I agree that it SHOULD make sense but Logos made the division Catholic vs. Protestant while the canon division is Anglican-Catholic-Eastern Orthodox-Lutheran-Oriental Orthodox.vs. the remainder.
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I would really like to hear what FaithLife has to say about this topic.
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I personally don't think this is a big deal. It's natural that Logos will want to experiment with pricing. I'm sure some of the publishers will want to know whether they'll make more money selling books for $1.99 or $0.99. Other publishers might only be willing to come in at $1.99. And don't forget the market is different. Noet used to offer a free book every week — but they were trying to create a market, and there were no royalties to pay. Verbum needs to create a market too, so I'm not surprised when I sometimes see slightly better deals over there than we get at Logos. On the other hand, Logos users have a much broader range, so we often see better deals that Verbum (on bundles, for example, which are great value and have no Verbum equivalent). I'm sure it all roughly balances out over the long term.
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I'm quite sure the Verbum + 1 books have had a much lower regular price in the past couple of months. It's quite possible that the percentage of dicounts for the Logos + 1 is still the same as for Verbum, if not even higher.
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Mark
what I am talking about is that for almost two years the price of the Logos +1 was only $.99 but then in Aug it almost doubled to $1.99
The point is that it does add up, and after everything else like getting the L6 base package, Journals bundles, WBC, and so on it was nice to be able to get something once a month for only $.99. And then to see that the Logos +1 is two times that of the Verbum +1
As far as the publishers go, many of them are the same that supply all the divisions of the faith. So why the difference is all I'm asking again.
Can Logos // Faithlife not afford to give this break any longer? Surely not. At least i would think not.
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Does the Parable of the workers apply here? Like, Verbum and Logos are interconnected but they have their own web sites, sales staff, marketing strategies, etc. Both are free to independently change the freebies and discounts as fits best with their publications and marketing strategies. We, as customers, may be used to a particular pattern but we are not entitled to it.
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I believe the difference is often in that occasionally a high valued book is there. In order to offer us free or nearly free books sometimes publishers still want money.... If publisher A says sure I will agree to let you have X book given away for free and Sell Y for 99¢ in order to generate interest in A-U. But if a publisher wants a bigger price on the nearly free book, FL may be at point of saying We cannot do this for Free/.99 but the publisher will allow for Free/1.99... Let's do that. Often times in the past the free/.99 pairing in the Verbum world were simply public domain works. I am happy enough to have a $1.99 book when the alternative might be nothing.
-Dan
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I don't feel particularly cheated, because I've been taking advantage of all three deals (Logos, Verbum and Noet). Every now and then there will be a +1 that I simply don't have any interest in, and that happens slightly more often for me on the Verbum side, but I've also gotten some good stuff for dirt cheap. Don't get me wrong - $0.99 is great - but even at $1.99 this has been a very economical way to build out my library. (Especially because $1.99 still falls below my spouse's threshold for asking me why I bought something.)
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