can i use logos on iphone without it going slow wanting to use poor internet ,
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i have poor internet, so would prefer just to use logos on iPhone 6splus depending only on downloaded resources , one thing i like to o is see what a word means in dictionaries , so when i click on the word logos on iPhone takes ages using the internet , can i get the iPhone version to work like my mac version does where its not to slow to use waiting for poor internet to bring up recourses online , can i change its preference to work only with downloaded library , i have olive tree and accordance and they work really fast without internet , i would love to use logos the same way ,
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can i use logos on iphone without it going slow wanting to use poor internet ,
It's annoying when that happens. Unfortunately, there's no "offline only" setting within the app. Personally, I temporarily switch into flight mode in this scenario, and then the Logos app copes pretty well.
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one thing i like to o is see what a word means in dictionaries , so when i click on the word logos on iPhone takes ages using the internet
Mark's advice, above, is good
But the particular functionality you refer to here requires an Internet connection to work.
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thank you , do you think logos will catch up and update its app , I'm sure they will be aware that a lot are going to be using logos on iPad and iPhone 6plus , just wondered of they have got vision to work with times , i would rather use logos , if other applications can do it hopefully they will
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thank you for your help , please let me know if they ever update it to operate without the internet all the time
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please let me know if they ever update it to operate without the internet all the time
Faithlife rarely comments on future apps. At this time, all comments have pointed towards a continued dependance upon cloud services for many features. If your desire is simply to read a book and take notes, there is no need for a good steady internet connection (except when you want to download and sync notes/highlights). If you are looking for original language lookups, library searches, etc. you will need an internet connection.
The ability to look up english words in an english dictionary is available offline in all resources. The ability to look up english words in NON Bible resources is also available all the time. Both of these look ups come via the iOS dictionary options. The "normal" look up feature in Bible resources requires an internet connection and utilizes the "cloud." There are no public plans to change this in the future.
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Nearly everyone I have spoken to says unfortuney it relys on Internet to study words , i wonder how may people would find it helpful to be able to use offline , I know with me and three others it would really help bible study , may every one as good internet now , but for those who take study seriously with slow internet , will find them selves waiting a while for the dictionarys of Greek and Hebrew to show , I know olive tree and accordance have done it ,
is there many people out there who benefit from a full offline logos app for there iPad or iPhone like with accordance ,
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See this thread: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/65557.aspx
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i will have a look , just to say i would not spend thousand pounds on software if i was just wanting a english dictionary , usually most people who spend the thousands you can pay do because they want to study , if i were you i would look at logos from the users view and ask your self how have spent thousands who have poor internet , there may be only a small few , o it could be more
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can you recommend any bible applications a iPhone that could be used offline for good bible dictionary study that don't go really slow and function poorly if a person has poor internet , it looks like i will just have to use my mac for logos , and look for something else that works offline , i prefer logos , i have accordance that works offline and olive tree that does , its just going to mean having to buy the rescourses, spent nearly and thousand on logos but just have to accept , its not functional efficent study in areas with poor internet ,
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can you recommend any bible applications a iPhone that could be used offline for good bible dictionary study that don't go really slow and function poorly if a person has poor internet , it looks like i will just have to use my mac for logos , and look for something else that works offline , i prefer logos , i have accordance that works offline and olive tree that does , its just going to mean having to buy the rescourses, spent nearly and thousand on logos but just have to accept , its not functional efficent study in areas with poor internet ,
I would suggest downloading both Bible Reader by OliveTree and Accordance... ACC has the benefit that it's free version of iOS app contains ESVi a complete version of the ESV tied to Strongs. OT is, in my mind, the best iOS Bible out there. It is fast and contains many resources (it's major downfall for me is lack of NRSV tied to Hebrew/Greek but the NIV is a fair fall back for me). Faith life's iOS apps are nice but for me are far far too dependent on servers to be much use. Even when I have a fast connection I find my iPAD wants to be doing network things 2-3 minutes before it will let me do anything, when I initially start it. Logos is where i have the bulk of my resources yet because of lacklustre performance on my iPhone 6/ iPad (3rd gen) it is the last app Bible App I go to unless I am wanting to use a resource that is specifically in my Logos Library. FL has great software and has decent iOS apps, but at times they feel like they are completely ignored. FL has lost sales to me because I need good access to a resource on my iPAD. Prayer lists on the mobile APPS got more requests the greater offline usability in the votes and FL is close to releasing the mobile APPS with that feature in it. But I really wish we could get a firmer time line on when we might see it, rather than a vague response telling us it is likely coming based on user requests.
-Dan
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Prayer lists is in beta testing on iOS. I think it got delayed because of iOS 9.
I agree that OliveTree would be a great choice if you wanted an app to study the Bible whilst offline. That said, it's been months since I last used it, as it's rare I need to study away from an Internet connection.
This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!
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For clarification: I do not work for Faithlife. I am a user like yourself. Unlike yourself, I believe in different tools for different jobs. Any "study" I do is on my MacBook. Any "reading" I do is on my iPad. I use my phone while waiting in line at the grocers or doctors office.i will have a look , just to say i would not spend thousand pounds on software if i was just wanting a english dictionary , usually most people who spend the thousands you can pay do because they want to study , if i were you i would look at logos from the users view and ask your self how have spent thousands who have poor internet , there may be only a small few , o it could be more
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Prayer lists in beta for iOS9? Do you know how I could sign up for a beta version of the iOS app? That would make me a very happy worship pastor.
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Prayer lists in beta for iOS9? Do you know how I could sign up for a beta version of the iOS app? That would make me a very happy worship pastor.
Trey,
If you wish to be a beta tester please send me an email at kevin (dot) byford (at) faithlife (dot) com and I'll send you instructions.
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I agree with Dan and Mark. Go with OT. Their customers can perform basic Bible word studies without Internet access. I spend at lot of time off-line and use their software often.
http://www.TrinityExamined.com
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Even when I have a fast connection I find my iPAD wants to be doing network things 2-3 minutes before it will let me do anything, when I initially start it.
Dan, this shouldn't be the case. Could you please send in your logs (Help > Report a Problem) and include this thread URL in the email (so I can tie it back)?
FL has lost sales to me because I need good access to a resource on my iPAD.
Is there a particular resource you have in mind that cannot be accessed on mobile?
Prayer lists on the mobile APPS got more requests the greater offline usability in the votes and FL is close to releasing the mobile APPS with that feature in it. But I really wish we could get a firmer time line on when we might see it, rather than a vague response telling us it is likely coming based on user requests.
Prayer lists have been in beta for a few weeks. We don't announce dates of when features will be available or give timelines. If we did and we missed the date or got the timeline wrong for some reason it would not make customers very happy. If you want to keep up to date on the beta information I can send you an invite to the Faithlife App Beta Group - please let me know.
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Prayer lists have been in beta for a few weeks. We don't announce dates of when features will be available or give timelines. If we did and we missed the date or got the timeline wrong for some reason it would not make customers very happy. If you want to keep up to date on the beta information I can send you an invite to the Faithlife App Beta Group - please let me know.
I would like to be a part of the group and I know that it is impossible to know how long some projects will take... I was waiting for the 2005 release date for Libronix Mac when we had the long delay (since the release was actually December 2008). I know you have been making improvements bit by bit and even implementing big things like the prayer lists. It is just frustrating, especially in situations where you loose your connection and suddenly the passage guide you have loaded will not function. I have come to wait a couple minutes after I start the APP and be very careful to make sure I do not click the PG if my iPad has a temporary lost of connection. I realize that the majority of your users likely are in cities with great coverage. I appreciate the problems others feel because of my location in the country, and it at times boils over knowing that many of resources are more or less cut off because of it, when something like BR has offline guides and look up of original language.
-Dan
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I would like to be a part of the group
You will receive an invite tomorrow.
I know that it is impossible to know how long some projects will take...
So I hope you understand why we don't announce timelines for upcoming features.
I have come to wait a couple minutes after I start the APP and be very careful to make sure I do not click the PG if my iPad has a temporary lost of connection.
Please send in your logs using Report a Problem.
I realize that the majority of your users likely are in cities with great coverage. I appreciate the problems others feel because of my location in the country, and it at times boils over knowing that many of resources are more or less cut off because of it, when something like BR has offline guides and look up of original language.
In Faithlife terminology a "resource" largely means a "book" (but it might be a video or collection of images which really isn't a book, so we generically use the term "resource" instead). This is why I asked earlier which particular resource cannot be accessed on mobile (some cannot be). Guides are not considered a "resource" so that's why I misunderstood.
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In Faithlife terminology a "resource" largely means a "book" (but it might be a video or collection of images which really isn't a book, so we generically use the term "resource" instead). This is why I asked earlier which particular resource cannot be accessed on mobile (some cannot be). Guides are not considered a "resource" so that's why I misunderstood.
Yes and I keep most of my commentaries/dictionaries on my iPad so I always have access to them, but like most people I can be lazy and want a passage guide to have them ready for me. I appreciate that the majority of my resources are available to me for downloading and using whether I am in airplane mode or I have full strength LTE signal. I also realize for many people with smaller devices the cloud based model is ideal. Faithlife is by far from being the worst Bible software for iOS I just wish improvements could come quicker (which I am sure is your desire too). It as I have said before feels frustrating when BR and ACC iOS apps have moved forward with major leaps and bounds where it feels that FL apps have stood relatively still. I have sent my logs in and I do hope you find something in them to help make the app better or determine my lag issue.
Dan
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i think having a pioneer mindset that looks outside the box to where the next generation are going , that many are using iPhones iPads now , if i wanted to see increase in sales and growth i would produce a app that works fully offline , why stand back and see competitors move on ,for the sake of a little effort
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I would like to be a part of the group
You will receive an invite tomorrow.
I still have not got an email... I went searching through the trash bin just in case....
-Dan
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Sorry Dan, I forgot. I just sent you one.
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