Great Books of the Western World
Did someone post this? I know people were asking for it.
Discounted only until 10/22.
https://www.logos.com/product/55052/great-books-of-the-western-world
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Great find!
Have joy in the Lord!
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Thanks for pointing this out. I just placed by order at $99.
If anyone is thinking of this you better act quickly as the price increases to $199 in a few days (October 22).
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This is a great series. I read through the paper version a decade ago.
SEBTS had an undergrad program that would bring a student through this series over 4 years. This series would have been useful for that.
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Greatly Appreciated!
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Thanks for the heads up!
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This is definitely one of the cheaper ways of picking up the Summa Theologica, according the translation usually attributed (misleadingly) to the Fathers of the English Dominican Province. (The translation was done entirely by the late Fr. Laurence Shapcote, OP, who preferred anonymity to receiving credit.)
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Out of curiosity, does anyone now what content is unique to this series? Meaning not already in Loeb, Harvard Bookshelf, Philosophy collections already in production.
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Travis Walter said:
It doesn't seem possible to find this collection on Logos.com without a direct link. I can't find it using the search function.
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SineNomine said:Travis Walter said:
It doesn't seem possible to find this collection on Logos.com without a direct link. I can't find it using the search function.
Maybe the website's search function works with an index (just as Logos does) which hasn't been rebuilt since this set became available. I expect this to be a temporary condition.
( I made the link you quoted active by putting a space after it )
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NB.Mick said:
Maybe the website's search function works with an index (just as Logos does) which hasn't been rebuilt since this set became available. I expect this to be a temporary condition.
Oddly enough, it works on Verbum.com.
NB.Mick said:( I made the link you quoted active by putting a space after it )
(I know.)
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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SineNomine said:NB.Mick said:
Maybe the website's search function works with an index (just as Logos does) which hasn't been rebuilt since this set became available. I expect this to be a temporary condition.
Oddly enough, it works on Verbum.com.
NB.Mick said:
( I made the link you quoted active by putting a space after it )
(I know.)
There seems to be a bug in our system that's preventing new products we're posting from being discoverable. We're working on it.
Meanwhile, we're also working on a list of what's in the Great Books that isn't available elsewhere. Off the top of my head, I can think of a number of things that are elsewhere in Community Pricing or Pre-Pub and haven't been developed, such as Plotinus' Enneads, Moby Dick, the Articles of Confederation, The Golden Bough (though the Great Books only has selections from it), Tolstoy's War and Peace. And there are a number of things that aren't available on our store yet, such as Eugene O'Neille's Mourning becomes Elektra, George Bernard Shaw's Saint Joan, T.S. Eliot's The Waste Land, and a great number of the scientific documents, especially related to the fields of chemistry and physics, such as from Faraday, Neils Bohr, and Einstein.
Perhaps what is one of the coolest features of owning this collection is the Syntopicon. If you don't know what that is, you should head over to my latest Academic Blog post and scroll down to the sample pages. I scanned the entire article on "Infinity" as well as the references section. If you're not familiar with the Syntopicon, I think you'll like what you see.
https://academic.logos.com/2015/10/19/99-reasons-to-check-out-the-great-books-of-the-western-world/
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Brandon Rappuhn said:
ff the top of my head, I can think of a number of things that are elsewhere in Community Pricing or Pre-Pub and haven't been developed, such as Plotinus' Enneads, Moby Dick, the Articles of Confederation, The Golden Bough (though the Great Books only has selections from it), Tolstoy's War and Peace.
When the Great Books collection lists a book on the product page, how can I tell whether or not it is abridged?
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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SineNomine said:Brandon Rappuhn said:
ff the top of my head, I can think of a number of things that are elsewhere in Community Pricing or Pre-Pub and haven't been developed, such as Plotinus' Enneads, Moby Dick, the Articles of Confederation, The Golden Bough (though the Great Books only has selections from it), Tolstoy's War and Peace.
When the Great Books collection lists a book on the product page, how can I tell whether or not it is abridged?
It'll say "Selections from..." or "Selected papers from..."
https://www.logos.com/product/55052/great-books-of-the-western-world#058
This series very rarely abridges anything, but the page shows you where things are "selected" works or essays from a larger work.
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How will the tagging be on this resource from other resources?
As in, would existing Logos resources like commentaries be updated to take advantage?
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Brandon Rappuhn said:
Perhaps what is one of the coolest features of owning this collection is the Syntopicon. If you don't know what that is, you should head over to my latest Academic Blog post and scroll down to the sample pages. I scanned the entire article on "Infinity" as well as the references section. If you're not familiar with the Syntopicon, I think you'll like what you see.
https://academic.logos.com/2015/10/19/99-reasons-to-check-out-the-great-books-of-the-western-world/
This is from today's blog:
"But perhaps the best reason to get this collection is the two-volume Syntopicon. This monumental reference work, a product of 10 years, offers a guide to 102 major ideas that have defined Western thought. You’ll find entries for ideas like Angel, God, Fate, Evolution, Immortality, Knowledge, and Love. Each entry includes an insightful introduction to how the topic has been discussed in Western thought, followed by an extensive list of key subtopics. For each subtopic, you’ll get a list of references to the concept in various works. And with one click, you can jump to a reference. Trace how various writers have dealt with an idea across the centuries. The value the Syntopicon adds to these books is worth the price by itself."
My question: we heard something similar before the recent release of the Encyclopedia Britannica (which turned out not to have all of the internal links when shipped). Will the Syntopicon have direct links to the referred resources when this is released?
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Every resource will be hand created. For source material we have html and print. This means we'll be able to get the bulk of the text exported and use the print for page milestones and formatting the look of the resource.
With that in mind:
- Data Types: where there is a data type in Logos, it will be used (e.g. Calvin's Institutes, Summa, and a whole bunch of early philosophers). I imagine there will be a couple of data types (if so, it would most likely be early Greek or Latinthat will be new to the Logos eco-system) that are new. This is a guess. I'd have to do a fine tooth analysis of every resource to determine with certainty.
- Metadata: Metadata will reflect the individual volume/resource being produced.
- Links between texts: The links in the first three resources will point to the appropriate page milestone in the volume to which they refer.
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Woo hoo! I'm glad to see this in Logos. My parents still have the print copy of the first edition in their house. It will be nice to have the updated version for myself that doesn't take up an entire bookcase. [Y]
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Everett Headley said:
SEBTS had an undergrad program that would bring a student through this series over 4 years. This series would have been useful for that.
There are many schools that offer Liberal Arts degrees in the Great Books. It would be wonderful if they all knew about this new release. Students could save a fortune on the textbooks.
This will be a central product in the NOET catalog.
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Looks like a great set of books.
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I'm in! I have a set of Gateway To The Great Books on my bookshelf directly behind me, which I got when I purchased a paper set of encyclopedias back in the day. Mortimer J. Adler did a great job compiling these works. He also co-wrote a wonderful book called How to Read A Book. For some odd reason it wasn't required reading in high school or college. Not sure why.
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David Achorn said:
Mortimer J. Adler did a great job compiling these works. He also co-wrote a wonderful book called How to Read A Book. For some odd reason it wasn't required reading in high school or college. Not sure why.
How To Read A Book is on John Piper's recommended reading list. I hope we get a Mortimer J. Adler collection in Logos soon.
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Super.Tramp said:
I hope we get a Mortimer J. Adler collection in Logos soon.
I would like that also [:D]
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Looking over my desk, I'm incredibly pleased with this pre-pub!
And the price can't be beat either! WOW!
How about The Great Ideas Today once this one ships? [:D]
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Wow Greg.. What a book collection.. I am just about out of bookshelf room and now have some stacks of books on my floor.. My wife is getting on to me about that.. [H]
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Rodney Phillips said:
I am just about out of bookshelf room and now have some stacks of books on my floor.. My wife is getting on to me about that..
I have a solution for you. Replace those paper copies with Logos copies and then you can sell them or give them away. That's what I did and it freed up lots of space. [:)]
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Rodney Phillips said:
Wow Greg.. What a book collection.. I am just about out of bookshelf room and now have some stacks of books on my floor.. My wife is getting on to me about that..
Thanks! That's the crown jewel of my paper collection! So check this out, if you're ever in need of more bookshelf space (and digital isn't doable), make a bookshelf standing desk! After my dad died a few years back, I inherited his book collection and didn't have the space. So I went and bought 7 of the shorter Billy Bookcases from IKEA and made an L-shaped desk out of them with some table tops from IKEA too. In the picture you can see four bookcases on the outside, and on the inside there are three more. Kills two birds with one stone!
It's served me really well these past few years, but I'm starting to run out of bookshelf space again. I'm planning on selling a bunch, but I'm also getting more and more partial to digitalizing the ones I don't have space for but want to keep. If you can bring yourself to destroy your books and invest in a ScanSnap and some nice PDF software, its well worth it.
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Thats a GREAT idea.. [Y]
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Just in case anyone is wondering about the value of this set of books, Amazon rents them for $597. You can get them from NOET for $99 if you buy today.
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Super.Tramp said:
Just in case anyone is wondering about the value of this set of books, Amazon rents them for $597. You can get them from NOET for $99 if you buy today.
Wow... I thought that was incredible when I read this so I went to the website. You are correct, you can rent them for $597 and they are due back on Dec. 18th. Like what you see when you rent them and want the buyout price?
Are you sitting down?
$2,388.00.
Or, you could just pay $99 and get a digital copy that wont fade and isn't susceptible to flood, fire, or my 3 year-old's crayons and that is completely hyperlinked to the Syntopicon. Hmmmmmm tough one [*-)]
Thank you Faithlife.
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Yea.. Got to be deal of the year..
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I wonder if the Read Aloud feature is enabled on the Great Books resource.?? I noticed it does work on mobile devices.
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Bruce Dunning said:
Replace those paper copies with Logos copies and then you can sell them or give them away. That's what I did and it freed up lots of space.
Me too! And thanks to bundles and base packages, I actually got many of them for a dollar or two in Logos and then sold/gave away the print ones, and then bought MORE Logos books :-)
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I just found out the Read Aloud feature is enabled. Can you imagine listening to the Great Books while you get ready for work?Super.Tramp said:I wonder if the Read Aloud feature is enabled on the Great Books resource.?? I noticed it does work on mobile devices.
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I'd check it out but all I'm getting is a sheep asking me "How are you passing the time until the server’s back up? Leave a comment!"
Baaaaa humbug.
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I'd say the Syntopicon - an index to the 102 great ideas that have been part of that "Great Conversation" - will be a true boon electronically-speaking... not to mention all the tagging between resources... and I have the paper GBWW! :-)
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I know about the Syntopicon but I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere if these books (or at least the Syntopicon) will be tagged by topic so that they'll appear during a search in the topic guide.
Has anyone heard anything about this?
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Ryan B said:Super.Tramp said:
Just in case anyone is wondering about the value of this set of books, Amazon rents them for $597. You can get them from NOET for $99 if you buy today.
Wow... I thought that was incredible when I read this so I went to the website. You are correct, you can rent them for $597 and they are due back on Dec. 18th. Like what you see when you rent them and want the buyout price?
Are you sitting down?
$2,388.00.
Or, you could just pay $99 and get a digital copy that wont fade and isn't susceptible to flood, fire, or my 3 year-old's crayons and that is completely hyperlinked to the Syntopicon. Hmmmmmm tough one
Thank you Faithlife.
[:|] I knew it was a great deal but didn't realize how much of a deal. I am happy to have preordered this one.
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Does anybody else want to place a Pre-Pub order?
https://www.logos.com/product/55052/great-books-of-the-western-world
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I wish I would've seen this for $99 and picked it up earlier. $199 is out of my budget.
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The Great Books Reader currently discounted on Vyrso for $2.99.
For all who can't afford the real thing!
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Unfortunately, I may have to cancel this one as well if the payment plan system stays as it is.
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Everett Headley said:
Unfortunately, I may have to cancel this one as well if the payment plan system stays as it is.
By what you are saying it seems like they always let you put prepub price items on your payment plan; which is something they said they didn't really do for people unless it was a very expensive prepub like NIB or NICNT. Oh well, after seeing the value of this set on the Internet I may just end up putting the $99 on my credit card. We'll see, I have to spend strategically with the new Payment Plan Policy.
DAL
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Jan Krohn said:
The Great Books Reader currently discounted on Vyrso for $2.99.
For all who can't afford the real thing!
The description gives no clue as to the included content or its extent. I was able to pull the trigger on the $99 pre-pub, but if this large enough I might buy it just to get some reading in before the delivery of the full collection. It might also make a nice stocking stuffer for my son.
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David A Egolf said:
The description gives no clue as to the included content or its extent. I was able to pull the trigger on the $99 pre-pub, but if this large enough I might buy it just to get some reading in before the delivery of the full collection. It might also make a nice stocking stuffer for my son.
Hi David, I uploaded the table of contents for you to take a look. Like the subtitle states, these are excerpts of and essays on some of the 'great books'; not to be confused with the prepub product in Logos.
3005.The Great Books Reader.docx
[Please note this is only the TABLE OF CONTENTS for the book, and NOT the full contents of the book. Thank you.]
I bought it from Kobo last year and this is the description it either came with (in the metadata) or I must've pulled it from somewhere (maybe Amazon or Goodreads):
"Thirty 20-page excerpts of the most influential works of Western culture with essays on how they influenced Christian thought and practice. This anthology includes excerpts from thirty of the greatest works in western literature, and essays about those works written by distinguished professors, lecturers, and authors.
Great Books programs have become increasingly popular among Christian colleges, high schools, and even home schoolers. This one-of-a-kind book is designed for those who do not have the opportunity to attend such a program but are still interested in directly engaging with the Western Canon. It contains substantial excerpts from thirty of the most important books in history, with each excerpt followed by an essay placing the work in historical and Christian context. Readers can learn directly from such authors and thinkers as Plato, Aristotle, Augustine, Dante, Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, de Tocqueville, Freud, and Chesterton.Selected as one of 2011's Best Books for Preachers by Preaching Magazine"
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Yasmin Stephen said:David A Egolf said:
The description gives no clue as to the included content or its extent. I was able to pull the trigger on the $99 pre-pub, but if this large enough I might buy it just to get some reading in before the delivery of the full collection. It might also make a nice stocking stuffer for my son.
Hi David, I uploaded the table of contents for you to take a look. Like the subtitle states, these are excerpts of and essays on some of the 'great books'; not to be confused with the prepub product in Logos.
Hi Yasmin,
Thank you very much for uploading the table of contents. I did not read it, but, oddly enough, that was very helpful! Whenever I start to engage in a new activity of study I decide on expected outcomes. This keeps me from wasting time. When I was presented with your download, I thought about the content that you described.
I have the whole set on order from Logos. However, when it arrives it will be a forest. I believe that this title will help direct me not only to the trees, but to the nuts! So ordered it just now without even examining the outline.
Thanks for the help.
David
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