Base Packages

John Crabtree
John Crabtree Member Posts: 94 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

This is just a general question seeking thoughts from long time Logos users. I currently own L6 Standard and Baptist Platinum with some various additions. With the base packages being on sale again and having my student discount I am considering purchasing one of the other denominational line packages for example possibly adding the Reformed Gold. Do yall try and obtain packages that are outside of your own denomination thought process? Also when doing that do you try and maintain to the highest level you have in each? The reason for my question while in seminary and can afford to do so, I am trying to build my library. Seeing as when I graduate and will enter the mission field having a strong developed Christian library I can carry with me will be a blessing. 

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  • abondservant
    abondservant Member Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭

    I'm just going to drop my signature on this thread right about here :)

    As you'll soon see I definitely believe in getting books from a broad range. I too am in seminary and my philosophy has been that I want to be able to show I've read books from multiple positions on the same issue.

    I don't know that I /have/ to have the highest BP in each denomination but I definitely want to get CE, will probably pick up lutheran platinum because of the price (43$). May or may not get more in the anglican stream... We shall see.

    L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,197

    I have base packages from four different streams at different levels.

    And my focus has been mainly on the resources they contain that i want, more than any desire to maintain them at the same level.

    My most recent purchase was Baptist Gold and it was primarily to get a couple of resource sets at the best price

  • John Crabtree
    John Crabtree Member Posts: 94 ✭✭

    I truly value other streams of thought that vary from my own. It challenges and helps me strive to be less dogmatic. I have not even been using Logos for a year yet and have found it to be worth every penny in my studies as well as life group lessons and sermon prep.

  • Anthony Sims
    Anthony Sims Member Posts: 58 ✭✭

    I own most of the base packages (minus Orthodox and Baptist) and I have found them to be so beneficial.  Some packages, in my opinion, have a better 'bang for your buck' than others.  I would take a long look at what each of the packages offer not necessarily in terms of quantity, but quality.  

    It is an investment in the truest sense.  I'm also a student and have invested more money into my books than anything else I own and have never been disappointed.  

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,826

    The least expensive way to obtain many resources is through base package upgrades. I have a number of them.

    Prior to FL's recent marketing of denominational packages I rarely gave a thought to an author's denominational background. True, I prefer evangelical authors, but I don't take it beyond that. I purchased outside the Logos Standard packages to get resources I wanted at the best price. If you see things you want in another package, do the math and see if they are cheaper to obtain in a base package upgrade.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    I purchased outside the Logos Standard packages to get resources I wanted at the best price. If you see things you want in another package, do the math and see if they are cheaper to obtain in a base package upgrade.

    This is what I do. I buy base packages to get a specific products I'm interested in, knowing that I'm also getting a bunch of other stuff that might (perhaps) be useful one day.

    For example, with dynamic pricing I bought the Logos 5 Pentecostal and Charismatic Starter bundle for less than $100, purely because it contained the $399 A. W. Tozer collection. I bought Lutheran Silver because it had Bonhoeffer's Works. The beauty of this is that the more you buy, the cheaper other base packages and topical bundles become (because of small overlaps between packages).

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • abondservant
    abondservant Member Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭

    A fellow forum member (Mark Barnes who posted just before me) has written some nice guides that should be in the last few weeks worth of posts. Well worth tracking them down. I'd do so for you, but I'm on my way out. Perhaps if someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll do so when I return.

    L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,

  • Mike Pettit
    Mike Pettit Member Posts: 1,041 ✭✭

    The beauty of this is that the more you buy, the cheaper other base packages and topical bundles become (because of small overlaps between packages).

    This is why it is sometimes worth holding your nose and buying some duff resources in a base package as credit for the same resources will enable you to cheaply access the quality resources contained in other base packages for around 10% of their standard price. 

  • Everett Headley
    Everett Headley Member Posts: 951 ✭✭

    I have the Baptist and Reformed Platinums.  I am from both those lines of thinking, so it makes sense for me to have both.  I looked at specific resources (mostly lifeworks) and bought based on that.  I don't buy other denomination base packages, mainly because I have what I need from them (like the Tozer example I had bought years ago).  I do buy from other viewpoints but it is usually on specific issues and I pick those volumes up as needed.

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,826

    A fellow forum member (Mark Barnes who posted just before me) has written some nice guides that should be in the last few weeks worth of posts.

    Here is the one for the Collector's Edition. You can see the links to the previous packages he reviewed at the top of the thread. Worth a look.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Here is the one for the Collector's Edition. You can see the links to the previous packages he reviewed at the top of the thread. Worth a look.

    Also grouped together here: http://www.logosbiblesoftwaretraining.com/documents/logos-6-buyers-guide/ 

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • Allen Browne
    Allen Browne Member Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭

    Bookmarked. That description of the various base packages is worth keeping. Thanks.

  • Sean
    Sean Member Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭

    This is just a general question seeking thoughts from long time Logos users. I currently own L6 Standard and Baptist Platinum with some various additions. With the base packages being on sale again and having my student discount I am considering purchasing one of the other denominational line packages for example possibly adding the Reformed Gold. Do yall try and obtain packages that are outside of your own denomination thought process? Also when doing that do you try and maintain to the highest level you have in each? The reason for my question while in seminary and can afford to do so, I am trying to build my library. Seeing as when I graduate and will enter the mission field having a strong developed Christian library I can carry with me will be a blessing. 

    I'm not Reformed, but I am a theologian, and I about fainted when I first saw L6 Reformed Gold. I got it mostly because I had wanted G.C. Berkouwer's Studies in Dogmatics for a long time but had never seen it on sale at a good price. Reformed Gold includes a ton of other good resources too that really sweetened the deal. It's an excellent package for any protestant interested in theology (because let's be honest here: the Reformed do indeed write most of the systematics).

    Likewise, I wanted a copy of Thomas Aquinas's Summa, and Verbum Basic was the most economical way to do that. I'd like to eventually pick up at least a lower level package for most of the denominational groups, as funding allows. I try to read widely; I nearly always learn something from those I know in advance I'm going to disagree with, and sometimes I even discover that they are right and I am wrong.

  • John Crabtree
    John Crabtree Member Posts: 94 ✭✭

    Here is the one for the Collector's Edition. You can see the links to the previous packages he reviewed at the top of the thread. Worth a look.

    Also grouped together here: http://www.logosbiblesoftwaretraining.com/documents/logos-6-buyers-guide/ 

    Thanks for posting this I remember seeing it once before. I am considering two other base packages during the sale as well because I can obtain two collections for less through a base package than I could through buying the collection. The above link really helps to kind of compare and get some ideas. I will help me to plan how to affectively spend my money to get the most bang for my buck. I really appreciate everyones opinion. 

  • John Crabtree
    John Crabtree Member Posts: 94 ✭✭

    Here is the one for the Collector's Edition. You can see the links to the previous packages he reviewed at the top of the thread. Worth a look.

    Also grouped together here: http://www.logosbiblesoftwaretraining.com/documents/logos-6-buyers-guide/ 

    Thanks for posting this I remember seeing it once before. I am considering two other base packages during the sale as well because I can obtain two collections for less through a base package than I could through buying the collection. The above link really helps to kind of compare and get some ideas. I will help me to plan how to affectively spend my money to get the most bang for my buck. I really appreciate everyones opinion. 

  • Joseph Turner
    Joseph Turner Member Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭

    I feel the same as many others here.  I buy base packages based on resources within the packages that I want.  Back before they had all of the varying packages, they came out with a Catholic Library Builder add on bundle that had all of Raymond Brown's works and Meier's A Marginal Jew for less than I would pay for those individual works.  Later I got Anglican Diamond because it contained the entire ICC Commentary set for less than the commentary set by itself (that package now only contains the NT set).  I have bought many base packages/bundles this way, I don't buy large sets now without first looking to see if they are part of a base package or bundle, because the package/bundle often costs less than the individual set, and the extra resources gained with each purchase are just icing on the cake!

    Disclaimer:  I hate using messaging, texting, and email for real communication.  If anything that I type to you seems like anything other than humble and respectful, then I have not done a good job typing my thoughts.

  • Robert Peters
    Robert Peters Member Posts: 698 ✭✭

    I agree with many of the other Logos users on this post. But before I comment on that you do not get an extra 15% percent with your student discount, you just get your 20%. But regardless of that I I choose base packages, bundles, then individual sets ion that order. I first, got reformed portfolio then then baptist gold then regular platinum because of the resources were cheaper with base packages. Also reformed gives me theology and commentary works, while baptist gives me more general commentaries and ministry resources. I am on the fence on regular diamond or baptist diamond because regular diamond has a bunch of wesleyan resources that i feel might be of no use to me, but has commentaries and other works that wold be useful in the regular portfolio. But baptist diamond gives me some great resources that would be useful right now. So, choose wisely!

  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭

    Reformed Gold became my latest addition since Studies in Dogmatics, Barth's Dogmatics and Reformed Dogmatics was way cheaper as part of the base package with dynamic pricing and 15% off. Great deal! Studies in Dogmatics alone is around $300 in print!

    DAL

  • John Crabtree
    John Crabtree Member Posts: 94 ✭✭

    DAL said:

    Reformed Gold became my latest addition since Studies in Dogmatics, Barth's Dogmatics and Reformed Dogmatics was way cheaper as part of the base package with dynamic pricing and 15% off. Great deal! Studies in Dogmatics alone is around $300 in print!

    DAL

    I am considering the Reformed Gold for the dogmatics as well. Also the Pentecostal Bronze to pick up the Tozer Collection for far less than I could purchasing the Tozer Collection by itself. 

  • mab
    mab Member Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭

    I've done several base packages and did very well that way. I picked up one shortly before Logos 6 debuted and that got me a real steal deal on Logos 6. 

    The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    mab said:

    I picked up one shortly before Logos 6 debuted and that got me a real steal deal on Logos 6. 

    Same story here. Plus, I got some resources that were pulled out.

    Logos 7 Collectors Edition

  • John Crabtree
    John Crabtree Member Posts: 94 ✭✭
    Thanks everyone again for helping me think through this. As well as always being there to answer my redundant simple questions. I picked up the Reformed Gold today and before the sale ends will add the Pentecostal Bronze at least during this sale. Looking through packages with yalls suggestions I have seen ways to pick up resources I need for class for pennies on the dollar and gain many more resources through various base packages.
  • Matt Hamrick
    Matt Hamrick Member Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭

    John, first of all any base you purchase you can get topical bundles that will be helpful. Anytime you add a base package you can get 15% off a topical bundle. I consider myself a a reformed southern baptist and have a very high level of apologetics which means I also love Noet products (considered philosophy for the most part). I have bought several base packages because my minor was apologetics and I want to know what those other denominations teach and say. Also, I bought the Collector's base because I was after the AYBC. I recently bought the Orthodox base because the Antioch Bible had an $800 price tag but it was in the Orthodox base for half off. In Logos 6 I have bought 3 base packages because I wanted a high cost collection that was in the base for much cheaper. I have built a library specific to me for learning about pastoring and preaching (my major) and apologetics (my minor). Along the way I have acquired other resources that will help me and others. Most of my library is what I would call those outside my denomination. But it's important to be well read and know those other beliefs that you can teach those to whom you minister.