https://www.logos.com/product/38448/classic-studies-and-atlases-on-biblical-geography is finally closing in a week. It is $30 now but so close to being $24. Please take a look. Should be quite a good set.
Thanks
Just place my Bid.. Thanks!
I bid $24 when it was first offered but just changed my bid to $30 because I don't want to miss this.
Just a few more bids though and we can get this to $24.
Just a few more bids though and we can get this to $24
Like you i changed my bid from $24 to $30 because i did not want to miss out but hoping that it crossover at $24.
Can someone help me understand why this might be useful in my library since I already have lots of map-related resources and since a lot of our understanding of these areas has changed since these were published, etc.? Thanks!
Good Question.. I like looking at and studying old maps.. And thought this was just a good price for 7 Vol..
I found some of these books on Amazon and they are $14.95 and up.. So for 7 of them here, not a bad price. Here below is one review on one of these books:
I dont want to miss this resource either, but I just changed my bid to $24. We have one week before closing. If we can keep this alive in the forums, it should go down to $24. If it does not, I will change my bid later next week. I encourage others to do the same
Thanks, Rodney. I'll give it some serious thought.
Apparently I bid $30 on 10-1-15 (not that I remember [:D][:D]) so I shall be leaving my bid as it is in the hope that perhaps a few more bids will lower the eventual price
It is very close to $24. If a few people lowered their bids to $24, that would put it over the top.
That's true. More new bids are needed from people like me who are still undecided. I will add emphatically that I can be bribed. [:)]
It is very close to $24. If a few people lowered their bids to $24, that would put it over the top. It does not work that way. All $30 bids are already counted as $24 bids. Lowering your $30 bid to $24 will not raise the $24 threshold. It will only make you miss out on winning.
Right. Thanks ST for making this clear once again.
Those who bid $30 are included in the $24 bids. That is correct. They are also included in the $2 bids. And yes, it is also correct that more bids are needed. to get it under $30. That is all correct. But people have no incentive to bid under $30 because it may not close lower than $30. If we change our bids from $30 to $24, it will bring the suggestive price down to $24.
But people have no incentive to bid under $30 because it may not close lower than $30. If we change our bids from $30 to $24, it will bring the suggestive price down to $24.
The incentive for me to bid at $30 is to get it to close and into production. It is an added bonus if it closes under $30. If we all change our bids to $24 it will not help to push this resource into production.
If we change our bids from $30 to $24, it will bring the suggestive price down to $24.
it can only be a couple of bids away at $24 to jump over (and many many $30 bids would need to be shifted to make $24 the going price prior to it crossing the 100%, thus this scenario is not likely to happen ) - I think it's much more helpful if you explain why the contents of the bundle are worth bidding on at all than trying to trick-change the current price.
Would these integrate into Atlas tool? I am just wondering what I am potentially bidding on.
Rodney has already told us the value of this resource.
My wishing to see the price drop to $24 is not trying to trick change the current price. And while I do not know how many bids are needed to get it over at $24, right now it is at the 100% line. So I do not think it will take many many bids.
Will it integrate into the atlas tool? That is a good question!
while I do not know how many bids are needed to get it over at $24, right now it is at the 100% line. So I do not think it will take many many bids.
No it won't - it may be only one additional bid away from crossing at $24. I expect it to do so soon. But you misread my answer. It would take many bids moved from $30 to either $24 or $27 to make $24 the new peak of the curve. If both were nearly at the same percentage your idea might work, however it seems strange that someone not wanting to shell out $30 but willing to bid $24 would refrain from doing so looking at this curve.
however it seems strange that someone not wanting to shell out $30 but willing to bid $24 would refrain from doing so looking at this curve.
Forgive me for being a simple person. That is all I am. A simple person. It is not strange in my world to change my bid from $24 to $30 on Friday morning. But in my world, it is strange that people who bid $30 would not go down to $24 to see more bids at $24, especially when doing so will not bring the $24 bids lower, but rather, higher. Making that change would bring the $30 bids lower. So I changed my bid from $30 to $24 and will keep it there until Friday morning. Is this foolish thinking? Probably so.
I know that sounds strange. But I have seen it work before. Community pricing is great. But of course there are people with different viewpoints on how to bid. But thanks for your encouraging posts. They have helped to keep this post in the forefront of people's minds as they consider whether to bid or not.
Either way, I expect to have this resource at either $30 or $24.
[:)]
But of course there are people with different viewpoints on how to bid. But thanks for your encouraging posts. They have helped to keep this post in the forefront of people's minds as they consider whether to bid or not.
[Y][:D]
Well it's down to $24 now so we can all stop arguing discussing the best strategy [:D]
A big thank you to all who bid at $24!
Well it's down to $24
(built a link into your quote for the convenience of those reading this page first)
[Y]
did someone say $21?
Thanks [Y]
https://www.logos.com/product/38448/classic-studies-and-atlases-on-biblical-geography
I'm still curious why it's worth $24 or purchasing at all...
I've looked at the sample pages, but there are no maps on them at all. There's still little understanding on the amount of maps included, and about the quality of the maps.
(I do love old maps, so I'm a little bit tempted, but the thought of wasting $24 is still greater than the temptation...)
I agree in terms of maps and therefore hadn't been persuaded to purchase. So I did some more searching this morning and found this helpful.
So in terms of maps the best titles in this CP are:
The Bible Atlas of Maps and Plans by Samuel Clark - see https://archive.org/details/bibleatlasofmaps00soci (10 or so maps throughout)
Atlas of the Historical Geography of the Holy Land by George Adam Smith - see https://archive.org/details/ldpd_7032971_000 (about 30 pages of maps and the end)
Sacred Geography and Antiquities by E. P. Barrows - see https://archive.org/details/ost-geography-sacredgeographya00barr (1 map at the beginning, 4 maps at the end, and the odd engraving in between)
Thanks Stephen for the links!
The maps seem to be detailed and many of them are in color, I hope FB will do a good reproduction of them! (for example a possibility to enlarge the pages so that the maps become readable on the screen) (and also some should be rotated)(and the line art should be scanned as B/W, not as color)
After the Atlas experiment, I would like to experience a positive surprise in maps! [A]
Yes, thanks, Stephen. I had been in at $6 just to be notified when it crossed the threshold so I could then decide if it was worth it for the extra maps. Now that it's gone down another $6 and I can see some of the maps, my arm may have been sufficiently twisted. [:P]
Last chance to bid before this closes today.
$82.95 now if you missed out [:'(]
Thanks Stephen for the links! The maps seem to be detailed and many of them are in color, I hope FB will do a good reproduction of them! (for example a possibility to enlarge the pages so that the maps become readable on the screen) (and also some should be rotated)(and the line art should be scanned as B/W, not as color) After the Atlas experiment, I would like to experience a positive surprise in maps!
After the Atlas experiment, I would like to experience a positive surprise in maps!
Now that this collection has been released, it appears that at least portions of the maps are blurry in the extreme. Some of the small details are pixelated as well. In "Atlas of Historical Geography of the Holy Land," see, for example, the maps titled "Empire of Alexander the Great 325 B.C." and "Roman Empire Third Century A.D." (pp. 3–4 link). I recommend right-clicking these images, saving them to your computer, and then viewing them at actual size. Anyway, this was just after an initial glance through. Interested users might want to examine the quality of these maps and resources.
Now that this collection has been released, it appears that at least portions of the maps are blurry in the extreme.
Well, looks like they should rescan some maps [8o|]
Did you try opening in the book a floating window, then maximizing that window?
Many of the more later more detailed maps are best viewed on a large screen in portrait rather than landscape orientation.
Most seem quite well done.
The one I am having the most difficulty with is the map of "Modern Palestine" in the Atlas of the Historical Geography of the Holy Land. Most of the place names in brackets and italics along the coast are very difficult to read and the names of towns and villages inland are impossible to read. The overall color on that map seems particularly dark and lightening it up as well as scanning to a higher resolution seem to be required for this one in particular.
Some images are indeed partially blurred, for example the "Geology" map in areas immediately east of the Dead Sea and in the north between Tyre and Damascus. Those two in particular are quite poor in contrast to the much higher quality that can be achieved as seen in the subsequent "Section" maps in the same volume. Except that there are occasional blurring problems again on some of these:(eg: Section I - Phoenicia & Lebanon, names around the southern end of Mount Lebanon and again near Dan / Baal Gad / Caesarea Philippi are blurred, and a similar but smaller issue on Section III - Galilee at the southern end of the part of the Jordan River valley shown on that section.The colors and resolution on Section IV - Gilead & Hauran seem to indicate this was scanned much darker and to a lower resolution that the following Section V - Samaria & Judea, but even on this there is some blurring of names to the immediate north and west of Jerusalem.)Perhaps the pages on the original had become damp at some stage ?
I would say that I am generally happy with the product and I enjoy reading this outdated info!
Two computer screens are very useful when dealing with maps: one map resource on one screen and another map on the other screen. Often the maps have different names for the locations and other differences, thus the comparison is very interesting.
I've only had time for a 15-20 minute perusal, but my initial feeling is disappointment. Please note that I'm not saying the following observations apply to every map in every volume--but it does reflect much of what I experienced in my first glance.
For me the verdict is still out--I'll examine the resources more closely, but I'm not optimistic at this point.
NOTE: I did try with and without full size floating window.
Links for map plates not actually going to a maps
This should be reported as an error in producion.
I've only had time for a 15-20 minute perusal, but my initial feeling is disappointment. Please note that I'm not saying the following observations apply to every map in every volume--but it does reflect much of what I experienced in my first glance. Links for map plates not actually going to maps Blurry images (difficult to impossible to read) No zoom capability (Text surrounding maps will change in size, but not the maps themselves.) Not much in the way of linkage between the maps and the text For me the verdict is still out--I'll examine the resources more closely, but I'm not optimistic at this point. NOTE: I did try with and without full size floating window.
Atlas of the Historical Geography of the Holy Land
The Bible Atlas of Maps and Plans
In this resource, links for map plates do take you to the maps and links for map related notes do take you to the notes. This is good. [:)] But some blurry maps and many maps with text too small to read are still a problem without zoom capability. [:S]
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