Linux version of Logos Bible Software
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Hello, for some reason I am not able to download the DEB file from Google Drive. I have tried different Operating Systems and Browsers. Many thanks
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https://send.firefox.com/download/db90d57a50234a4b/#Bp8GUESUmHhV027Iy_4cyA
100 downloads for 7 days... hope that works?
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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http://mega.nz is also excellent (and free).
The response to this thread shows that there's an interest in Logos for Linux.
Thanks for your work. I tried converting the deb file to Arch Linux format but there are some dependencies not available.
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Thank you very much, was able to download it successfully
John Goodman said:https://send.firefox.com/download/db90d57a50234a4b/#Bp8GUESUmHhV027Iy_4cyA
100 downloads for 7 days... hope that works?
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It would be very useful to know what systems people have it working on. Especially which graphics card you have and whether there are any visual issues. Also if anyone with a dual boot system can compare performance? I have a sense that some things are faster but some things are slower too. Any bugs please let me know so we can work on it. So far it is working very well but we have a few known issues in the google doc.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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Greetings guys. I'm the same person known as aaylnx in the posts above. Unfortunately, after trying several times to make posts concerning my attempts to install Logos using wine on Linux (attempts which included failed screen shots and error logs) the forum is holding my posts in limbo marking them as those of a potential spammer.
All that to say that I have tried to install Logos on Linux under three separate scenarios - all without success. The first one was in a VM. I made the least amount of progress with this. On the 2nd and 3rd attempts I tried installing in a container that can display graphical apps and then finally on bare metal. I reached basically the same place on attempts 2 and 3: namely, I was able to install Logos and sign in. After that it started trying to sync my library and crashed pretty soon there after.
My preference would be to install Logos in a LXD container. I have other graphical apps installed this way. Nice for portability. I "think" that my previous failures may be related to using an Nvidia graphics card. I am going to send the container over to my laptop which has an Intel card and see how that goes.
I have set up a Telegram channel called "Running Logos Bible Software on Linux" that anyone who would like to talk about running Logos on Linux can join. I think it would facilitate discussion a little better than this forum - which I'm apparently getting locked out of!
If you want to join the Telegram group, you can join with this link - https://t.me/linux_logos.
I will be posing in there about my attempts to get this working. I'm hoping that those of us interested in this can work together to make the process much more streamlined. It's still pretty challenging to get this working at this point.
I will be off very soon to gather at a combined worship service for churches like mine in the Houston area this evening, so I may not be in the chat a lot today, but will try and get in there soon!
Blessings,
Adam York
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dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of wine-devel-amd64:
wine-devel-amd64 depends on libc6 (>= 2.29); however:
Version of libc6:amd64 on system is 2.28-10.
wine-devel-amd64 depends on libfaudio0 (>= 19.06.07); however:
Package libfaudio0 is not installed.
wine-devel-amd64 depends on libvkd3d1 (>= 1.0); however:
Package libvkd3d1 is not installed.
wine-devel-amd64 depends on ocl-icd-libopencl1 | libopencl1; however:
Package ocl-icd-libopencl1 is not installed.
Package libopencl1 is not installed.
wine-devel-amd64 depends on ocl-icd-libopencl1 (>= 1.0) | libopencl-1.1-1; however:
Package ocl-icd-libopencl1 is not installed.
Package libopencl-1.1-1 is not installed.So maybe I will have to use Ubuntu even though I don't like Ubuntu because it's missing lots of console applications that Debian still supports.
David
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Not necessarily... if you can install wine 4.17 from repos then you might get away with just using the kernalbase.dll.so file from my deb and adding it as if a native override. I don't have instructions yet but it would be good if someone could try that approach? It would make it quicker and easier to track with updates. I'm also keen to do a bit with the patch because I think I can squeeze a little extra performance from it.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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John Goodman said:
Not necessarily... if you can install wine 4.17 from repos then you might get away with just using the kernalbase.dll.so file from my deb and adding it as if a native override. I don't have instructions yet but it would be good if someone could try that approach? It would make it quicker and easier to track with updates. I'm also keen to do a bit with the patch because I think I can squeeze a little extra performance from it.
On Ubuntu 18.04 64bit I have tested by installing "winehq-devel" from the WineHQ PPA, then replaced only the /opt/wine-devel/lib/wine/kernelbase.dll file with the 32bit version from my test 32bit machine. I was then able to install and use Logos. I have NOT tested with a 64bit wine, but am sticking to 32bit wine for now, but assume it would work. The file location for that would be /opt/wine-devel/lib64/wine/kernelbase.dll
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Hi All. You may have noticed that a few of my posts just showed up in this conversation, but they are showing up prior to the most recent posts. This is because they had been flagged as spam and were awaiting moderation. I called a Logos representative who was able to clear them. Thank you for your help if you are reading this BTW sir!
In any event, in case it is lost in the reordered posts, I would simply like to reiterate my offer to everyone interested in this topic to join the Telegram group I set up to discuss this. It's called Running Logos Bible Software on Linux and can be found here - https://t.me/linux_logos. You'll need a Telegram account of course. The hope if creating that group is that those interested can join it and talk about how to make the Logos experience on Linux better for everyone.
Blessings,
Adam
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Hi All. You may have noticed that a few of my posts just showed up in this conversation, but they are showing up prior to this and other more recent posts. This is because they had apparently been flagged as spam and were awaiting moderation. I called a Logos representative who was able to approve the posts and send them through. If you are reading this sir, thank you for your help!
This post is simply to call attention to my earlier announcement about a Telegram channel I created to discuss this matter. I addition to this venue I thought it would be good to create a chat channel where a more fluid discussion could take place for those who are trying to sort out this phenomenal development - that Logos is now finally truly running natively under Linux. If you are interested in trying to make the process of setting this up easier for all interested parties, please join the Telegram group at - https://t.me/linux_logos. You'll need a Telegram account for this. Hoping that Rik Shaw and John Goodman can join for sure!
Blessings,
Adam
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Why don’t just use the Faithlife social network? Not every people use Telegram, and by definition (of any one already participating here) they already have access to Faithlife.
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Hmm. I didn't even know there was such a thing. I googled that and came to this site.
https://faithlife.com/christian-social-network/about
Is that what you are talking about? That really looks like a different kind of forum software. I'm trying to open up a avenue for discussion that is less like a web forum and more like IRC or some kind of real time chat. If others have preferences for something like that, I'm all ears. The Telegram group is up and going though.
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I have to admit i never participate in any real time chat room.
One tool I know but has no experience is gitter. Seems like quite some open source projects like to use that.
One possible organization structure would be to open a github repo, put the instruction to use Logos on Linux in the wiki in that repo, release the prebuilt binaries to github release (at least when the patch isn’t up streamed), with sha256 checksum. And add a gitter associated with that.
github issues can be used to keep track of what bugs are experienced in Logos on Linux too.
but That’s just a suggestion. I guess any choice outside Logos means there‘s always a barrier for people to participate. I hope there will be a bigger portion of people in this thread have github account (Linux users and github users should have more correlation than say Windows users) but that’s just a guess.
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aaylnx said:
Hmm. I didn't even know there was such a thing. I googled that and came to this site.
https://faithlife.com/christian-social-network/about
That is just one group out of thousands on Faithlife.com, which is the social network / community groups platform. Anyone can create their own group and set it to be public, invite-only, etc. You could create one for "Linux Users of Logos Bible Software" for example.
aaylnx said:I'm trying to open up a avenue for discussion that is less like a web forum and more like IRC or some kind of real time chat.
Faithlife supports instant messaging between all members of the same Faithlife group, through a web browser or through our mobile apps.
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This is coming along very quickly now. Graphical glitches seem to be sorted. Still have some bugs but its very useable!
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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Rick and John and everyone else working on this. Thanks so much for all of the work. For the first time ever I have been able to install and run Logos directly under Linux without the use of any virtual machine. It's great.
Unfortunately, I am having some showstopping bugs. I don't know if there is a better place to report bugs so I will report it here.
As I said, Logos installs and runs fine. However it is not able to index my library. I have tried four different installations. Three have been on bare metal and one in a VM and the results have been the same every time. When I run top, I see that the Logos indexer is running. It usually runs for a few hours and then crashes.
Here is a screen shot of the WINE error message that pops up.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/RescAP4YuEdDaDAC9
Here is the WINE backtrace file.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G4PKFBAkUAfqQriy1Xe003CerbP5HUPj_zkWBMscw0E/edit?usp=sharing
Here is a screenshot of the last bit of terminal output.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/QtBKL9mdpxgTgLRHA
What is the consequence of this bug for me? Well, whenever I right click on a word in my library and do any kind of search for it, I get zero hits. That's why I'm calling this a showstopper. I primarily use Logos to do exegesis and that involves various kinds of searches.
How can I provide further feedback that will help with this?
Thanks!
Adam
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Will try to follow up through telegram.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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John,
Thank you so much for your help! I have messaged you back on Telegram. Your suggestions paid off and I now have Logos running VERY WELL natively on Linux. Most importantly searching now works which you can see in this screenshot.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/BQcNT6TaQLvQ8EXC7
For all the rest of you who are following this thread, things are getting really, really close now. There are still some remaining bugs to be sure, but things are now at a state where Logos running natively on Linux with WINE is very usable.
I plan to keep testing and trying to help where I can. John, I think the suggestions you made to me are going to have to be factored into the process for new users. I don't know if you've been able to test if this is needed on a fresh install or not.
Rik, hats off to you brother! Thanks for the work.
Let me encourage those who have Linux experience to dive in. Help is needed in testing, reporting bugs, and debugging things in WINE. The links are scattered throughout this thread, but for those who need the reference here are some good links to check out.
The Google Doc with documentation, resolved bugs, and unresolved bugs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gms_Bc2Q_OOH3G5lmP6twXnqiSWxrFFT7lCN3nRyymw/edit
The WINEHQ app page for Logs 8 with a list of known bugs
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=38306
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Over the weekend I tried following the Google doc instructions, but encountered dependency issues both in a VM running in a Windows host and in Crostini on my pixelbook (on the pixelbook, I created an Ubuntu 19.4 container). I will try again when I have more time to sort out the dependency issues.
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Bill thanks for trying. The more people try the more issues we are managing to iron out. If you can share issues with using comments on the google doc or in the telegram group that would be ace.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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Bill,
Thanks for chiming in. The installer as well as the directions are being updated at a pretty good clip, so try again and make sure everything is updated.
I am very interested in the container approach. Prior to all of the recent progress with the Logos on Linux front, I have been experimenting running graphical apps in Ubuntu using LXD containers using the method outlined here:
His method actually enables graphical acceleration and sound when using containers.
Note well, that link does not explain basic LXD setup on Ubuntu, but this process is not very difficult.
I have not yet been able to containerize Logos under Linux however. Don't think it should be that difficult, but the installer fails when it gets to the portion where it makes a call for an administrative access gui. Is there a way to run the Zenity script in terminal mode only? I know that kind of defeats the purpose of Zenity, but that would be useful in this case.
Please keep us posted on how things go for you!
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Thanks Rik and John and anybody else who helped to make this possible. I have successfully installed Logos on Linux Mint 19.2 XFCE and Cinnamon versions (64-bit). I didn't have any issues with either installation.
Blessings,
Scott
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OK, I am running 19.04 in a container in my Pixelbook. Here is the first dependency issue I run into:
sudo apt install --install-recommends winehq-devel
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:The following packages have unmet dependencies:
winehq-devel : Depends: wine-devel (= 4.17~disco)
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So see if you have wine-devel installed and if you do, uninstall it and install wine-devel 4.17~disco.
Then install winehq-devel.
I don't know if your running 32bit or 64bit, but here is the 64 bit file:
Here is the 32bit file:
You can add that repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list file so you can download it easier but often when a specific version is required it's easier to install it directly from a file with dpkg.
Best wishes,
David
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Thank you, David.
Here is my next dependency issue:
wmadan@penguin:~$ sudo dpkg -i wine-devel-amd64_4.17~disco_amd64.deb
Selecting previously unselected package wine-devel-amd64.
(Reading database ... 127680 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack wine-devel-amd64_4.17~disco_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking wine-devel-amd64 (4.17~disco) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of wine-devel-amd64:
wine-devel-amd64 depends on libfaudio0 (>= 19.06.07); however:
Package libfaudio0 is not installed.dpkg: error processing package wine-devel-amd64 (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.29-0ubuntu2) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
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This page will help you. Perhaps one of the "leaders" of this convocation of Logos friends with Linux could start their own PPA with what is needed.
Pasted here from this page: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2019/09/wine-4-16-released-install-ubuntu-19-04/
The wine devel package requires
libfaudio0library which is not available in Ubuntu repositories.As a workaround, run command to add the third-party PPA, which offers the packages for Ubuntu 18.04, Ubuntu 19.04.
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cybermax-dexter/sdl2-backport
Best wishes,
David
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Thank you, that solved that dependency problem.
But, after successfully installing wine and trying to install wasta-logos, I seem to be running in circles:
sudo apt install wasta-logos-setup
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:The following packages have unmet dependencies:
wasta-logos-setup : Depends: winehq-devel but it is not going to be installed or
winehq-staging but it is not going to be installed
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I haven't gotten to the installing Logos part yet, but I did get wine to install by following the Debian stretch instructions for the devel release here: https://wiki.winehq.org/Debian
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Try installing winehq-devel or winehq-staging, will one of them install?
Best
David
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