Linux version of Logos Bible Software
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Many thanks to all who have been working on this! [8-| ]I installed wast-logos-setup some months ago (Linux Mint 19.2 xfce) It worked very well and was steadily improving until very recently. Now Logos will load as before, but it crashes as soon as I try to interact with any of the windows. Not sure exactly when it stopped working - my guess would be after May 20, 2020. My system update regularly from the Wasta Logos PPA, so is it likely this is related to an update in the wasta distribution? Indexing problem? Any suggestions? Would really like to solve this without having to reinstall all my books!
Tried installing the V1.3 appimage version here: https://github.com/ferion11/LogosLinuxInstaller/releases/tag/v1.3 but I could not get it to install -- so far.
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I don't have a solution to your immediate problem, but I would recommend keeping a copy of your "index" and "resource" folders so that if something does go wrong, you can get back on your feet with relative ease. The index folders on my machine are:
- /home/user/.wine-logos/drive_c/users/username/Local Settings/Application Data/Logos/Data/random.id/BibleIndex
- /home/user/.wine-logos/drive_c/users/username/Local Settings/Application Data/Logos/Data/random.id/LibraryIndex
- /home/user/.wine-logos/drive_c/users/username/Local Settings/Application Data/Logos/Data/random.id/PersonalBookIndex
and the resources are in:
- /home/user/.wine-logos/drive_c/users/username/Local Settings/Application Data/Logos/Data/random.id/ResourceManager/Resources
Your "user", "username", and "random.id" will be different, of course.
I use scripts in FreeFileSync to update the backups any time I add / update a resource. If your Logos install goes down and you have to start over, at least you can copy these files over and save yourself a lot of time (and bandwidth...).
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Kevin, sorry there is some problem for you. Can you please report your specific version of wasta-wine, wasta-winetricks, wasta-logos-setup, and wasta-logos-installer? (if you use "synaptic package manager" you can find them there).
As noted, keep backups of your resources and index files, etc. but then you should be able to re-run wasta-logos-setup at anytime with an existing Logos install (do NOT remove your existing .wine-logos install, and later choose to "repair" in the Logos installer). This will upgrade your Logos to the newest 8.13 version, plus possibly fix any issues.
Let us know any update.
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Thanks. Yes, I'll do that.
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Thanks for the quick replies! Wasta-logos-installer - 8.13.0.0008~ubuntu2; wasta-logos-setup 1.1.2~ubuntu18.04.1; wasta-wine 5.7.0~ubuntu18.04.1; wasta-winetricks 20200412.3~ubuntu18.04.1
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Kevin Moore said:
Thanks for the quick replies! Wasta-logos-installer - 8.13.0.0008~ubuntu2; wasta-logos-setup 1.1.2~ubuntu18.04.1; wasta-wine 5.7.0~ubuntu18.04.1; wasta-winetricks 20200412.3~ubuntu18.04.1
Kevin, as I suspected, since you were a regular updater, you got a version of wasta-wine that I intended for testing but accidtenally / prematurely pushed to the main Wasta Logos PPA. I have since reverted it to wasta-wine 4.18.x (what was there since last fall) as getting all the dependencies for Bionic 18.04 (and derivatives such as Mint) proved to be a bit tricky.
So, can you please uninstall wasta-wine. Then, if you install again it will re-install wasta-wine 4.18. Hopefully that is all you need. But in case it is not running correctly, please re-run wasta-logos-setup.
Again please keep us updated. Sorry again for the problem!
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Will do that and let you know. Thought it might be something like that. Again, thanks for the help.
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Rik Shaw said:
Kevin, as I suspected, since you were a regular updater, you got a version of wasta-wine that I intended for testing but accidtenally / prematurely pushed to the main Wasta Logos PPA. I have since reverted it to wasta-wine 4.18.x (what was there since last fall) as getting all the dependencies for Bionic 18.04 (and derivatives such as Mint) proved to be a bit tricky.
So, can you please uninstall wasta-wine. Then, if you install again it will re-install wasta-wine 4.18. Hopefully that is all you need. But in case it is not running correctly, please re-run wasta-logos-setup.
Again please keep us updated. Sorry again for the problem!
Was able to work with this again today... As suggested, tried uninstalling wasta-wine and reinstalling that with no success. Re-ran wasta-logos-setup and that, too fails. Then uninstalled completely all wasta items in Synaptic and re-installed using the steps at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gms_Bc2Q_OOH3G5lmP6twXnqiSWxrFFT7lCN3nRyymw/edit#
Installed:
wasta-logos-installer: 8.13.0.00008.0~ubuntu18.04.1
wasta-logos-setup: 1.1.2~ubuntu18.04.1
wasta-wine 4.18.-~ubuntu18.04.1
wasta-winetricks 20200412.3~ubuntu18.04.1
This failed while running the logos installer on indexing. It fails to load. I saved the backtrace and attached the resulting text file.
Thanks again for your help!
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If you have adequate internet can you try a clean install of Logos?
You could save your ~/.wine-logos first, then after it is running again you may be able to replace your resources folder.
Anyway, again I am sorry but I think a clean install of Logos may be needed. :-(
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I've tried several things. First I tested my Logos setup on Windows just to be sure I'm not having problems with Logos or my hardware. It works fine there (I still have a dual boot system, unfortunately).
I then uninstalled and reinstalled everything including Logos in Linux from scratch. Actually I've tried more than once - full download and minimum download - uninstalling between attempts. After those failed I tried a minimum install, but copied my index and resource file backups into the new .wine-logos folders. Still no success.
Strange, it was working fine just a few weeks ago.
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All of this leads me to conclude that something has been updated in my Linux Mint distribution or apps that conflicts with the wine-logos. My current system info (extracted from inxi) is:
Host: Trivia Kernel: 4.15.0-101-lowlatency x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 TriciaBTW, I run several other Windows apps in Wine using Codeweavers CrossOver (v.19.0.1) these are all working as well as ever.
I suppose at this point I could try using Timeshift to revert to an older system setup and see if that helps. I am reluctant to do that when I don't seem to be having issues with anything besides Logos, and I'm not entirely sure what else would change, --and then (if it works) which system updates would be 'safe' to apply so that I don't end up with the same problem again.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Kevin,
Could you try once more by first removing the "~/.wine-logos" folder and then running wasta-logos-setup from a terminal like this:
wasta-logos-setup 2&>1 | tee -a "wasta-logos-setup-log.txt"
This way all messages and any errors will be put in the file. It will make a huge file that you could post somewhere so we could take a look at it (Google Drive or other? I'll leave it to you....)
Rik
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Okay, the installer ran as usual. It created the wasta-logos-setup.txt file but stored the output in a file named 1 . I copied the contents of "1" into the named text file and uploaded to https://drive.google.com/file/d/13VYbyVSPJSmoLdZs5yBwarLXK5ykYLYs/view?usp=sharing
This part of the process seems to go without any problems. I will continue and run the Logos app now, but this takes quite a while to download even the minimum setup so it will take a while to find out if it runs correctly at the end.
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Kevin,
When (if? :-) it starts crashing again, does it bring up the Wine Error Window where you can save the crash output? Try to get that if possible.
Then, if we are still stuck you could manually put an older version of the Logos msi installer in your ~/Downloads folder. wasta-logos-setup will look *first* for an installer there ("Logos-x86.msi" I think) and use it if found. If NOT found then it will try the wasta-logos-installer version (now 8.13). So this would be a way to get an older version of Logos installed to see if that addresses the crashing issue. But I don't know of others that have had issues with the updated Logos version so far....
Again keep us posted. Hoping we can get this sorted for you, and hoping any effort on your part will help others
Rik
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This new install also fails to run properly. I should clarify that the installer itself seems to run without any problem. It's the main Logos app that crashes. I did get a Wine Error Window on one of my earlier attempts and appended it to a post on June 6, but I am not getting that window now.
More detailed description: After running the installer and resources are downloaded, I run the main Logos app. The messages about "preparing your library" etc appear and disappear as usual. The program window opens with my default layout. I can then - usually - interact with the program for a few seconds - hover over a resource tab and see the description, select a new tab, menu, window, etc. As soon as I click on anything, or if I wait for more than (maybe) 30 seconds, the program seems to freeze. I can move the main window around, minimize, maximize, etc, but nothing inside that main window responds at all. If I switch to a new Linux workspace and back it does not re-draw the window contents, but the main window frame and controls function as usual. When I select 'close' either from the main window or from my Linux panel, I get the message "This window might be busy and is not responding. Do you want to terminate the application?" I have tried waiting to see if something changes (twice, I left it running over 10 hours) but that doesn't seem to help. I get the same behavior every time I run Logos.
...so maybe my problem is with Wine (I don't know how to check or change the Wine configuration) or my current version of Linux rather than with the Logos installation.
Thanks again, Kevin
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Unsure where to find an older Logos.msi to try installing that.
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Kevin, can you please confirm from "Configure Logos Wine" (wasta-logos-setup creates this in your main menu) the Windows version (should be XP) and your wine version (should be 4.18)?
It is unfortunately strange you are having these issues, I haven't known of others with these problems. Maybe something didn't get correctly removed with your wasta-wine version when you uninstalled. The files should be under /opt/wasta-wine so if you want to try once more to remove wasta-wine, confirm that /opt/wasta-wine folder is removed, then re-install wasta-wine it may prove informative?
Your problem seems to somewhat match the crashing that would happen before we patched wine, but wasta-wine should take care of that.
Can you also post the contents of "~/.local/share/applications/wine/Programs/Logos Bible Software.desktop"? There was a problem previously that this was not getting updated to correctly reference "wasta-wine", maybe there is still a bug. It should be something along these lines:
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Logos Bible Software
Exec=env WINEPREFIX="/home/rik/.wine-logos" /opt/wasta-wine/bin/wine C:\\\\windows\\\\command\\\\start.exe /Unix /home/rik/.wine-logos/dosdevices/c:/users/rik/Start\\ Menu/Programs/Logos\\ Bible\\ Software.lnk
Type=Application
StartupNotify=true
Comment=Launches Logos Bible Software
Icon=215B_Logos.exe.0
StartupWMClass=logos.exeRik
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Success!! [:D] I think the main problems are solved. Before getting your suggestions I discovered that the opt/wasta-wine folder was not removed when I uninstall. (Maybe I'm not uninstalling correctly?) Anyway, I deleted this folder and tried re-installing from scratch, and it seems to have solved the problems I've been having.
I still wonder if there are problems in my setup. I can't find "Configure Logos Wine" anywhere in my system menu. I don't think that I've ever seen anything in the Wine menu except the Logos launcher on my XFCE Mint system.
"~/.local/share/applications/wine/Programs/Logos Bible Software.desktop" contents:
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Logos Bible Software
Exec=env WINEPREFIX="/home/bemused2/.wine-logos" /opt/wasta-wine/bin/wine C:\\\\windows\\\\command\\\\start.exe /Unix /home/bemused2/.wine-logos/dosdevices/c:/users/bemused2/Start\\ Menu/Programs/Logos\\ Bible\\ Software.lnk
Type=Application
StartupNotify=true
Comment=Launches Logos Bible Software
Icon=4F4F_Logos.exe.0
StartupWMClass=logos.exeThanks again for all the help! I hope all of this might be useful troubleshooting for others, too.
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Quick PSA for our Logos Linux users - the WineHQ team has fixed the printing issue with version 5.11!!!
If you upgrade to 5.11, you will still see the error under the "Page" section of the Print/Export module - ignore it and click print - it works, as does the "Properties" link to allow changing page size, orientation and duplex printing options.
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14
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Mr. Ring,
Darcy Roberts here. Would you be willing to set me in the write direction to beable to do the virtual windows 7 on my Linux Ubuntu machine so I can load my Logos Software on it?
Thank you!
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Here is a guide that was put together and has worked for most who use it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gms_Bc2Q_OOH3G5lmP6twXnqiSWxrFFT7lCN3nRyymw/edit
Darcy Roberts said:Mr. Ring,
Darcy Roberts here. Would you be willing to set me in the write direction to beable to do the virtual windows 7 on my Linux Ubuntu machine so I can load my Logos Software on it?
Thank you!
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14
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Works wonderful on Elementary OS 5.1! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Kevin Moore said:
...Tried installing the V1.3 appimage version here: https://github.com/ferion11/LogosLinuxInstaller/releases/tag/v1.3 but I could not get it to install -- so far.
You used one old version, always get the new version of the installer here: https://github.com/ferion11/LogosLinuxInstaller/releases/
I had removed the old versions from the release page just to be sure.
Frank Sauer said:Quick PSA for our Logos Linux users - the WineHQ team has fixed the printing issue with version 5.11!!!
If you upgrade to 5.11, you will still see the error under the "Page" section of the Print/Export module - ignore it and click print - it works, as does the "Properties" link to allow changing page size, orientation and duplex printing options.
Good to know. But my tests with the 5.x version wasn't good. It had bad speed performance (i guess the speed improvement is just for opengl and vulkan), and corrupted my wine bottle, couldn't update the LogosBible, but updated the new books version files (reporting update successful, but keeping the old version), forcing me to a complete reinstall.
By the way, I created the portable version: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1iD3flpZLIBC9S0UkNAS-lVJCizvreUgb
Is easy like just extract the "LogosBible_Linux_portable.tar.gz" file in any place and execute the "Logos.sh" inside it (and make the login). The LogosBible can update itself here too.
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Thank you! I did discover the problem I was having with Rik's install script - with his help [:)] - so I have not pursued using your appimage version any further, yet. I do plan to check out a current version when I get the chance since it does seem to offer some advantages. I am especially intrigued with the idea of making a portable version that could be installed on a USB drive.
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Daniel, I'm looking to replicate this environment for remote users in very weak infrastructure areas in Africa.
Can you give me some idea of viable compute & storage requirements to make this Logos concept work on an Ubuntu node with is as low as possible on size, weight and power consumption?
Opinion on if this is viable on Raspberry Pi 4B https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/specifications/
Thanks, Jim
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Raspberry Pi has the wrong cpu type. It is arm not x86. For a Pi you need the Logos web app.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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Jim Rice said:
Daniel, I'm looking to replicate this environment for remote users in very weak infrastructure areas in Africa.
Can you give me some idea of viable compute & storage requirements to make this Logos concept work on an Ubuntu node with is as low as possible on size, weight and power consumption?
Opinion on if this is viable on Raspberry Pi 4B https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/specifications/
Thanks, Jim
As John said, we have the issue of incompatibility between processors.
A low-cost offline alternative, using the Raspberry Pi 4B, would be to install a version of android to SO and the Logos mobile version: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.logos.androidlogos&hl=en
Some resources, such as word study, are only available when online (I believe it's because of indexing, but using far fewer resources than the web application). Books can be downloaded and read offline.
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Has anyone gotten Logos to work on Linux THROUGH Chrome OS?
I am looking to get a Chromebook... I LOVE Chromebooks and want to switch from Windows. It has better battery life and security, and I use Google Drive and Docs every day for everything!
The problem is, there are two ways I've seen to get things to download through Linux. One way is through a command. If you do it this way, it installs and from what I understand, it saves your progress as you go.
If you use an app image, from what I understand, it simply opens a file each time, so I'm guessing my library would have to resync every time I start the program.
I'm not a crazy tech nerd but I do understand that Chrome OS runs Linux in a different way than Linux is normally run... So maybe some people can give me some help here...
I would love to drop everything and move to Chrome OS, I just need some assurance with Logos first.
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Zachary,
I have, as I told you in the other thread. Page 37 contains my first success with a Pixelbook. I don't know if anyone else has had success.
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Bill Anderson said:
Zachary,
I have, as I told you in the other thread. Page 37 contains my first success with a Pixelbook. I don't know if anyone else has had success.
Thanks Bill. I just read from page 37 on.
How is Logos currently working for you today?
Are there any pros or cons to using logos the way you are?
I'm eying a Lenovo C630 Chromebook with 8GB of RAM and an 8th gen i5 (I think the Pixelbook was only the 7th gen) so I'm hoping the specs are enough.
Could you update on how good it's running and what you've learned over time? What method works better and any bugs you've experienced?
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