Morph search for a verb returns nouns

This is with 6.9 RC2 on Windows 10

As the screenshow below shows a morph search for a verb returns results for words tagged as nouns or an article - and sometimes for a different word

As the interlinear ribbon on the right shows (for one of the examples - and it is true for the other) all of the returned terms are included in the Greek terms that result in a translated word. Is this the reason for this happening or is something wrong?

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Donnie Hale

I'm not at my Logoc PC right now, and I'm almost assuredly speaking out of my depth, but...

Does it matter that your lemma is a noun even though you're asking to restrict to verb forms? What are the expected results for that? I'd think that at some level it's an error or a nonsensical request.

Donnie

Mark Barnes

As the screenshow below shows a morph search for a verb returns results for words tagged as nouns or an article - and sometimes for a different word

This is because you're searching in an English Reverse Interlinear. Look at the interlinear pane on the right. The search sees agape, and returns the position of the English word 'love'. It also sees a verb (echo), at the same position, and therefore it has matched your search request (a lemma 'agape', and a verb in the same location). You mean the same location in the Greek text, but because you're searching an English version, Logos interprets it as the same location in the English text.

Andrew Batishko

This is a natural limitation of running searches like this on an English Bible with an interlinear rather than searching the original language directly. If you hit the "Bible" button in the search panel, this will convert the search to the same Bible search, which will let you see how the shortcut syntax specified in the Morph search gets transformed behind the scenes. You see it results in the following query:

(([field bible, content] <Lemma = lbs/el/ἀγάπη>) ANDEQUALS ([field bible, content] <LogosMorphGr ~ V???????>))

What this means is that you are searching for an English word that is tagged with the lemma ἀγάπη where that English word is also tagged as a verb. As you can see from your interlinear ribbon, that's exactly true because the English word is associated with multiple Greek words.

To do this search correctly, do your morph search on a Greek Bible. In the results view, you can switch to the Verses mode and add your NIV version to view the results in English.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/798229#Comment_798229

Mark / Andrew

Many thanks - most helpful