Am I correct in that the Sermon Outline Bible which came out today will NOT show up in the Passage Guide Sermons section?
OK, with no answer so far, I'll say it does not show up, and that is a shame.
I think it's very important as Faithlife puts Prepubs out that are collections of sermons, to explicitly state whether or not the resource will be included in any and all of the Sermon functionality Logos/Verbum software provides. Wouldn't a user think it naturally would support existing functionality?
I was disappointed to see this collection not supporting existing features. It is not the first sermon collection that this has been true of, and there has been no mention of it in the marketing blurb. I will be very careful in buying any sermon collections in the future until this can be rectified; it's an incomplete job and borders on misleading advertising IMHO.
[Y] with the principle - I don't have this resource.
The resource is listed as a commentary, so it does show up in the passage guide.
It would be nice to have it in the sermon section as well.
The resource is listed as a commentary, so it does show up in the passage guide. It would be nice to have it in the sermon section as well.
Right - my concern is it is sold as a collection of sermons why doesn't it show up there.
It does appear on the passage guide and is advertised as The Sermon Outline Bible Commentary.
The 12-volume set contains nearly 4,800 sermon outlines, arranged from Genesis to Revelation. Edited by William Robertson Nicoll, the Sermon Bible contains material from G.C. Morgan, Alexander Maclaren, C.H. Spurgeon, H.P. Liddon, Henry Alford, and more. This insightful commentary highlights the very best English preaching, and will become an invaluable resource in the library of any preacher.
Thanks Ted. Stupid me for thinking Sermon collections would appear in a new feature that uses Sermon Collections. Congratulate the marketing wordsmithers for me.
I haven't seen this resource yet, but I imagine it was run through the 'commentary' markup pattern, as others have guessed. I'm traveling, and don't have access to it to take a look myself right now, but I'll bring it to the attention of the Content Production team in case it's appropriate to be marked up as 'Sermon' content, too.
-- Bob
I'll bring it to the attention of the Content Production team in case it's appropriate to be marked up as 'Sermon' content, too.
Thanks. To me it is not a simple commentary nor is it a simply sermons but it would be great it it could be counted as both.
We didn’t apply the sermon label mark-up because this is a commentary that uses short excerpts from sermons.
We reserve the sermon label for talk on a religious or moral subject, usually given during a church service, and based on a passage or topic from the Bible. A sermon should be either transcribed or intended to be preached in their whole, unmodified form.
This resource is a commentary that uses paragraph snippets from a variety of sermons.
From our perspective the biggest consideration is the lack of sermons in their whole, unmodified form.
Kyle,
Thanks for your reply.
Logos published a collection by Baker of sermon outlines and expository outlines that don't appear in the sermon section.
Kyle, Thanks for your reply. Logos published a collection by Baker of sermon outlines and expository outlines that don't appear in the sermon section.
Agree. It will be nice if the Baker sermon outlines and expository outlines appear on the sermon section.[Y]
We didn’t apply the sermon label mark-up because this is a commentary that uses short excerpts from sermons. We reserve the sermon label for talk on a religious or moral subject, usually given during a church service, and based on a passage or topic from the Bible. A sermon should be either transcribed or intended to be preached in their whole, unmodified form. This resource is a commentary that uses paragraph snippets from a variety of sermons. From our perspective the biggest consideration is the lack of sermons in their whole, unmodified form.
Thanks Kyle for the reply and explanation. As a buyer of resources, how would I have known that? How will I know what I am buying in the future?
It would have been beneficial if this had been explained in the advertisement for the resource. If you go back and read it, there is nothing that implies these are anything but Sermons. There were no samples as well.
As Logos/Verbum adds features, it is becoming more and more risky to buy resources assuming new features are incorporated into the resources. Could I ask that Faithlife do a better job of explaining exactly what we will be getting in a resource? The days of text and a simple tag or two are long gone, and the advertisements need to reflect the current functionality offered by Logos/Verbum IMHO.
and based on a passage or topic from the Bible.
A number of traditions allow for sermons based on texts other than the Bible e.g. the Reformed sermons on the Heidelberg Catechism. So I hope you've allowed for sermons not based on the Bible directly.
If you go back and read it, there is nothing that implies these are anything but Sermons.
Includes sermons from C.H. Spurgeon, Alexander MacLaren, William Robertson Nicoll, and many more
I don't own this resource but it does appear that the blurb is sloppy as it does not indicate that there are extracts from sermons rather than sermons. And I do agree that it is not always easy to determine what tagging we should expect - both in new resources and in updates.
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