Putting my References into Logos 6
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Not sure what you mean by "references on the computer". If you have no books in Library try the following
- enable logging
- enter update resources in the Command box
- if not successful upload the log files folder as per the wiki
Dave
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My logos books are in a folder on my computer and Logos 6 is not listing them under My Library as it did on my other computer (using an earlier version of the search engine). Make sense?0
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Scott Cox said:
Make sense?
Yes, it does. Did you download your library or did you use the scan command? You must do one or the other for the software to recognize the resources. I'll post a link to directions for whichever way you are doing it.
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Scott,
It sounds like you downloaded Logos 6 to your computer and manually moved your resources to a folder on your computer. If so, that won't work. Libronix/Logos 3 allowed you to specify the folder your resources are in. Logos 6 does not. Logos puts them in a folder when it downloads them from the Logos servers. There are other ways to get them there.
Let us know if this is what you did and we can give you some further directions.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
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See here for scan method: https://wiki.logos.com/Quick_Installation_onto_multiple_computers#Method_3
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Mark: That's exactly what I did. I have a solid state drive for C, so I'm not anxious to add a lot of data content to that expensive space, so I put storage intensive files elsewhere. Are you saying that I can't relocate these off of C? Whose Idea was that??!
Anyway, so what do I do?
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MJ: My library is on my computer and has been for years. How do I get the s/w to find it?0
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alabama supplied the answer above:
alabama24 said:See here for scan method: https://wiki.logos.com/Quick_Installation_onto_multiple_computers#Method_3
However, it sounds like you are trying a non-standard install so please read https://wiki.logos.com/Install_in_different_folder_or_drive as well.
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Scott Cox said:
I have a solid state drive for C, so I'm not anxious to add a lot of data content to that expensive space, so I put storage intensive files elsewhere. Are you saying that I can't relocate these off of C? Whose Idea was that??! Anyway, so what do I do? Thx.
Well, Logos has to know where you put them as a standard installation puts everything in the \Logos folder. See https://wiki.logos.com/Install_in_different_folder_or_drive#Move_to_a_different_drive for how to do that (make sure you relocate only one folder e.g. Resources to avoid complications). Then you have to use the scan procedure from the Method 3 wiki to get resources properly recognised
Dave
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Ok. I'm reasonably savvy, but I'm not getting this. Do I need to uninstall Logos 6 (which I can do)? I tried to install it elsewhere the first time and got a permissons error. I ran a custom install (I always do w/ s/w.). Are you saying that my Logos 6 must be on the same drive as my references or in the same folder? I don't really understand the "scan method." is this something I can do now or I somehow do during installation?
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It sounds less complicated to uninstall L6 and reinstall,which I can do. But, what do I do differently during the install? I did custom the first time, but it just offered me a place to stick the search engine. I didn't see an option for relocating the References folder. Am I putting the search engine in the folder with my references?0
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Scott Cox said:
I didn't see an option for relocating the References folder.
It is not an option. It's more like the users figured out the hack to make it work. You have to follow the instructions of the pages you've been pointed to.
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Scott Cox said:
I didn't see an option for relocating the References folder.
You won't. Logos doesn't provide the option. There is a way that is not supported by Logos but others have gotten to work. Read carefully the link that Dave pointed you to. It shows how you can move just the Resources folder to another drive if you want to.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark: I think i'm more inclined to reinstall and do this right. But, I did custom install the first time and when I tried to install on just C:\, I got a permissions error.
But, what I'm hearing is that I need to install on E:\ drive where my resources are? Do I need to install in that very folder or just on the E:\ drive? This is what I'm confused about. Where do I put Logos 6 and how do I point it to my books during the install?
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In a standard, supported install you allow Logos to put the books in its standard hidden directory. To place your books anywhere else you use the user hack following the instructions on the page you have been pointed to. If you have trouble following those instructions it may be best to let Logos do a standard install if there is space to do so. In calculating the required space remember to include space for the sorts i.e. believe Logos' estimate.
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My experience with windows is that hacks may come back to haunt you so I stay away from them. So, I followed the instructions here: https://wiki.logos.com/Install_in_different_folder_or_drive
for a custom install after uninstallation. I put Logos on my E:\ drive where my references are. Now what?0 -
Scott Cox said:
This is what I'm confused about.
As MJ said, what you want cannot be done by the Logos install program. You want the program to reside on your SSD and the resources and data folders to be on a normal HDD. Logos install cannot accomplish this. It must (and will) put everything on one drive. You can pick that drive but you cannot install parts of it one place and parts somewhere else using the install program.
The only option is using additional software to create a junction point that 'tricks' Logos into thinking that what should be on drive C: (your install drive) is actually there when in fact it is on drive E: (or elsewhere). I hope this isn't too confusing. If it is you are best taking MJ's advice and letting Logos put everything on the one drive where you have enough room for all of it.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Have you run the scan command? See the help file for instructions. when it is complete indexing should procede and you'll be good to go.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Mark. I reinstalled Logos to E:\Logos.
MJ: I ran "Scan E:\Logos References" and nothing returned. I even tried it with quotes around the "E:\Logos References." Same result.0 -
The scan command (without the quotes) sets up the command to run the next time you start Logos. Enter it, restart Logos ... I'm not sure if it produces a message or if indexing starts and your resources appear without a message.
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Scott Cox said:
Mark. I reinstalled Logos to E:\Logos. MJ: I ran "Scan E:\Logos References" and nothing returned. I even tried it with quotes around the "E:\Logos References." Same result.
Let's try this again. It might help to make sure we use the right nomenclature. I assume that you are trying to say that you want to "put your RESOURCES into Logos 6," where "resources" means books, journals, etc.
The "scan" method (from the wiki):
WIKI ARTICLE said:This method involves Indexing whilst avoiding the resource download.
Please read Before you Start carefully.
Note: Your Logos folder name could be \Logos, \Logos4 or \Logos5 depending on how you upgraded.- Backup the ...\Logos\Data\randomId\ResourceManager\Resources folder from a working installation to an external drive
- Install Logos/Verbum from the appropriate Setup link above.
- if you want to install a beta version use the link from the Beta forum
- select Custom installation and uncheck “Automatically Download Updates”
- change the installation folder (eg. E:\, C:\Users\username) or leave as default
- Sign-in to Logos after the installation has finished
- enter scan <path to your resources> in the Command box e.g. scan e:\resources
- restart Logos for versions prior to v6.3
- Indexing should start and can take a considerable time to complete
- Also allow time for your documents to sync
When you use the "scan" command, you will type scan e:\resources (no quotes) where "e:\resources" is the path you have stored your resource files. If your path is e:\windows\admin\smithfamily\personaldocs\logos you will type scan e:\windows\admin\smithfamily\personaldocs\logos.
Does that make sense?
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MJ. Smith said:
The scan command (without the quotes) sets up the command to run the next time you start Logos.
I think this has changed in later builds of 6.x, but if you aren't seeing anything happen, a restart couldn't hurt.
MJ. Smith said:I'm not sure if it produces a message or if indexing starts and your resources appear without a message.
When I used it last, I received no message (that I recall).
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alabama24 said:MJ. Smith said:
The scan command (without the quotes) sets up the command to run the next time you start Logos.
I think this has changed in later builds of 6.x, but if you aren't seeing anything happen, a restart couldn't hurt.
Thanks for double checking me .. I hadn't updated my personal memory, obviously.
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alabama24: I installed logos to E:\Logos. My books are in E:\Logos Reference. I ran E:\Logos References in the toolbox window. I even restarted Logos. No books listed.0
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Enter the command without quotes. If valid you will see it listed under "Tools"
Hit Enter (or the right arrow symbol) to execure the command. After a period of discovery you should see resources in Library and indexing should commence.
Dave
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That's exactly what I've done. I see that synchronization is enabled and all items are up to date, but nothing is listed. What am I missing?0
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Here's another question. I did some searching for my old version on my old PC, Libronix, and this came up on the Logos site:
"Upgrade to Logos 5!
If you are using Libronix, your software is out of date. The latest version of the software is Logos 5. Logos 5 base packages are packed with new books and data—plus the latest features. Check out what upgrade discounts you qualify for!"
I installed Logos 6. Would that matter?0 -
No, Logos 6 works well with Logos 5 resources. However, if you are using Libronix resources there are a large number of them that will have updates ... expect some major downloads.
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Scott Cox said:
That's exactly what I've done. I see that synchronization is enabled and all items are up to date, but nothing is listed. What am I missing?
What is listed in e:\Logos References - how many files/folders. Are there files with *.logos4 names? or *.lbslem names (post a screenshot of contents)?
Dave
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Scott Cox said:
I have a solid state drive for C, so I'm not anxious to add a lot of data content to that expensive space, so I put storage intensive files elsewhere.
Personally have Logos installed on Solid State Disk (SSD), which noticeably improves application responsiveness.
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Can you all see this screen shot? I got an error message when I uploaded it.
"Sorry, there was a problem with your last request!
Either the site is offline or an unhandled error occurred. We apologize and have logged the error. Please try your request again or if you know who your site administrator is let them know too.
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Scott Cox said:
Can you all see this screen shot?
No, but there was a link. I normally don't open those, but just for you... [:)] Out of curiosity, were you using the paperclip icon to attach the image to the post?
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I clicked on Reply and the only thing I saw was an option to upload a file, which I did. I now see the paperclip. Tiny in this little box they make me write in. So, thoughts on my issue? And thanks!!
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Scott Cox said:
So, thoughts on my issue?
I have been "Mac only" for more than a decade. I <did> have some resources that go back as far as yours, but I did not resume with Logos until more recently when L4 had already been released. Oh how I wish I could prove it and to so regain access to the NIV84!
I don't know what the method will need to be for you to migrate to L6. If you had been using L4/L5, then your resourc licenses would have been on your cloud account with Faithlife and could have been automatically downloaded. It looks to me like all your files are in really old formats, so something special will need to be done. One of the other volunteers (or FL employee) will need to advise.
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Scott Cox said:
Mark: That's exactly what I did. I have a solid state drive for C, so I'm not anxious to add a lot of data content to that expensive space, so I put storage intensive files elsewhere. Are you saying that I can't relocate these off of C? Whose Idea was that??! Anyway, so what do I do? Thx.
I just saw this...
I don't know how much you use your bible software, or how large your SSD may be, but ideally you would WANT Logos to be on the SSD! It needs a fast drive to operate well...
How large is your SSD? How large is your resource directory?
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Alabama24: I've already installed Logos to E:\. I'll be happy just to get it working! So my issue is licensing? Do I call Logos?
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Scott Cox said:
Alabama24: I've already installed Logos to E:\. I'll be happy just to get it working! So my issue is licensing? Do I call Logos?
I might be mistaken, but did you do "syncing of licenses" (I am not sure of the name of the command) in your previous Libronix Library Software? Syncing of Licenses (if I remember right) synced all the licenses to your resources with the Logos servers. Without that it might be necessary to call Faithlife (Logos) Customer Service.
Bohuslav
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BW: I didn't do any syncing, not that i recall. I can do that. I still haven't cleared the old PC. It was Libronix 3 I think.
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Scott Cox said:
BW: I didn't do any syncing, not that i recall. I can do that. I still haven't cleared the old PC. It was Libronix 3 I think.
From the following information in this thread it looks the way I suggested is no longer possible. You might follow the instruction in the thread for sending your license file with your email to the Customer Service.
Bohuslav
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I called support and he said they'd sync it by day's end. Stand by. Thanks to everyone for the help. Just to be clear: Logos s/w and my books still need to be on the same drive?
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Scott Cox said:
Just to be clear: Logos s/w and my books still need to be on the same drive?
I'll let someone else tackle that.
Scott Cox said:I called support and he said they'd sync it by day's end.
For clarification (at least as I understand it): Faithlife will add your resource licenses to your account. Since your files are very old, you will end up downloading new versions of your resources in a different file format. This will allow you to access (most of) these resources on your desktop, mobile and biblia.com
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Scott Cox said:
Just to be clear: Logos s/w and my books still need to be on the same drive?
Logos always installs itself into a single folder - which means that the software and your books are on the same drive.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Ok. As long as they don't have to be in the same folder on the same drive....
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Scott Cox said:
Ok. As long as they don't have to be in the same folder on the same drive....
... I fully admit that I don't understand windows... but doesn't your comment and Dave's contradict one another? He wrote:
Dave Hooton said:Logos always installs itself into a single folder - which means that the software and your books are on the same drive.
So it does go into the "same folder" on the "same drive"... unless I really don't understand something (which is possible).
On Mac (which is a different beast), by default the APP is installed in the applications folder, and the data files are stored in the user's OS X "user library" under "application support."
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Folders and drives are very different.
You can have thousands of folders on a drive. E:\ is a drive. E:\Logos and E:\Logos Resources are two folders on that drive. No one has suggested that the software and the books have to be in the same folder.
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Then what is meant by Dave's comment that Logos installs itself into a SINGLE folder? I know that he doesn't mean that there aren't subfolders in the SINGLE folder, so wouldn't that imply that the resources and app are in the SAME (i.e. "single") folder? In any case, I will crawl back to my Mac hole now. [:)]Scott Cox said:No one has suggested that the software and the books have to be in the same folder.
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Hmmm. I didn't look to see how Logos installed. If they need to be together I can move my resources into wherever folder they need to be. in.
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Ummm. With all the misunderstandings... if Logos is working then leave things as they are.
Dave
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