Forming a morphological search
Does anyone know how to form a search for every place an aorist present participle is translated as "while xxx" in the NASB95, ESV and LEB?
Have a great day,
jmac
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Graham Criddle said:
@VA?P WITHIN 0 WORDS while" should do it
You'll need within 1 WORD, not 0 words. (And Jim edited is post to say present, not aorist.) So it's
<LogosMorphGr ~ VP?P????> WITHIN 1 WORDS while
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Mark Barnes said:
<LogosMorphGr ~ VP?P????> WITHIN 1 WORDS while
Thanks. That worked. I'm working to understand the results. I see you used the NASB95 as the Bible being searched. I assume that is because you are using the morphological tags connected to the interlinear text available with that Bible to find the verb along with the English to find the English word "while".
The results lead me to some questions.
- I accidentally used the NA27 as the search Bible and got one hit. Shouldn't it have been zero hits? I'm just trying to understand this because at first I thought the one hit might be right. If so I would have been wrong.
- I switched to searching my collection of all English Bibles. Am I right that Logos will only search the ones that have morphological data associated with that translation?
- One of the results of the "English Bibles" collection search included the Lexham LXX which I was pleasantly surprised to see. I'd like to see the Greek next it the results. Is that possible? I tried to use the box at the top to add an Greek LXX but an option for that didn't come up in the list. How do you suggest doing that?
I sure appreciate the help.
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Jim said:
I accidentally used the NA27 as the search Bible and got one hit. Shouldn't it have been zero hits? I'm just trying to understand this because at first I thought the one hit might be right. If so I would have been wrong.
There should have been zero hits in the NA27 — unless the match was in a footnote, perhaps. That said, my edition of the NA27 didn't return any results.
Jim said:I switched to searching my collection of all English Bibles. Am I right that Logos will only search the ones that have morphological data associated with that translation?
It will work in all English Bibles with a reverse interlinear. So yes, you're right.
Jim said:One of the results of the "English Bibles" collection search included the Lexham LXX which I was pleasantly surprised to see. I'd like to see the Greek next it the results. Is that possible?
You'd have to add the Greek LXX to your search view, like this:
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Mark Barnes said:Jim said:
I accidentally used the NA27 as the search Bible and got one hit. Shouldn't it have been zero hits? I'm just trying to understand this because at first I thought the one hit might be right. If so I would have been wrong.
There should have been zero hits in the NA27 — unless the match was in a footnote, perhaps. That said, my edition of the NA27 didn't return any results.
I get one hit - because of a gloss
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Just FYI, I found that I had to expand the search to at least WITHIN 2 words because some verbs get translated into English with helper words. For example in Hebrews 6:6 "since they again crucify." "They again crucify" is actually one Greek verb.
This verse is the one that sparked my inquiry. The "since" is not in the Greek text; it is an interpretation of the translators. One commentator suggested that "while they again crucify" could be an appropriate translation. Since the difference in this case has great implications I've been researching how other present tense participles are translated.
Your help has been invaluable. Thank you.
Have a great day,
jmac0
