Video Tutorial: How to Send to Kindle after the "Send to Kindle" service is switched off

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  • jwsheets
    jwsheets Member Posts: 140 ✭✭

    Mark, first thanks for the video - great to know, you can bet I''l be using it ;-) I have one question though; one of the books I would like to convert and send to my Kindle is longer than 100npages (even after making the mods you suggest). I would assume that means I need to make two (or more) passes. Would the proper procedure be pass 1 - pass two (send to open Word doc (at cursor) - etc. until all is moved over? If yes, the preview images in the export window is so small I can't read it - so how would I know where to start the next cycle?

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    jwsheets said:

    Would the proper procedure be pass 1 - pass two (send to open Word doc (at cursor) - etc. until all is moved over? If yes, the preview images in the export window is so small I can't read it - so how would I know where to start the next cycle?

    Yes.

    In those circumstances I do the following:

    1. Send the first block to Word in the normal way.
    2. Look in Word to see how far you've got. Copy the last sentence to the clipboard.
    3. In the Logos resource, press Home then CTRL+F, and paste in the sentence to find that location in your Logos resource. It's Command+↑ then Command+F on a Mac.
    4. Temporarily turn on the page numbers visual filter to see where the current page begins, and remember the page number.
    5. Delete a small amount of text from your Word document so that your text in Word ends at the end of the previous Logos page. Make sure there's a space at the end of your Word document so the next text won't run into your existing text.
    6. Turn off the page number visual filter.
    7. Re-run the whole procedure, but this time type page XXX-9999, where XXX is the page number you remembered in step 4. Send it to the open Word document instead of a new Word document.

     

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  • Mike Priest
    Mike Priest Member Posts: 13

    I was excited to see this video. However, it is not working for me. I'm following the steps carefully, but when I get to the step to Print/Export and enter "page i-9999" or "page 1-9999" Logos does not update the page numbers. The only way I'm able to select multiple pages is to click the boxes under "use these sections." That becomes tedious when there are many boxes to check for a resource. Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong?

    Thanks for all your videos! They are very much appreciated!

  • Eeva Tervala
    Eeva Tervala Member Posts: 1

    Thank you for the advice, did work with Mac too :)

  • Stephen Steele
    Stephen Steele Member Posts: 706 ✭✭

    Anyone know how to 'select text with similar formatting' on a mac - it doesn't seem seen to be a feature in the mac version.

  • Plip
    Plip Member Posts: 10

    Thank you so much, Mark! Great video. Very thorough.

    I had one issue, which I eventually managed to solve. So I thought I'd share in case anyone else is trying to do the same thing and running into the same problem.

    The resource I converted was Berkhof's Systematic Theology, and I really wanted four levels in the table of contents. I set up the headings (1-4) without too much trouble, and everything looked good in the navigation pane. But I didn't get a table of contents the first time I sent the file to Kindle. Then I added the table of contents in the Word document, as suggested in the discussion above, and when I re-sent it, I did get the table of contents, but it only had two levels.

    I searched all over trying to find out why, and I finally ran across something that suggested the conversion couldn't handle more than one indentation. That explained it. The first level (heading 1) had no indentation, the second level (heading 2) had one indentation, but the third and fourth levels and two and three indentations. So they were either ignored or lost in the conversion.

    I went back into Word, clicked on the table of contents (just anywhere inside it), went to the References Tab, and selected "Table of Contents" and then "Custom Table of Contents" and then in the window that opened selected "Modify." From there, I was able to adjust the indentation so that all four levels showed up in the Kindle table of contents.

    In doing this, you obviously lose the visual nesting (each descending level isn't indented one step further to the right), but that doesn't seem to be an option. Fortunately in this resource, levels 3 and 4 had roman numerals and letters proceeding them, so it's not too difficult to distinguish them. It's not ideal, but it's a lot better than not having those levels in the table of contents at all. So I'm happy.

    Thanks again, Mark. Your video was extremely helpful!

  • Caryn DeVore
    Caryn DeVore Member Posts: 1

    I don't understand the reasoning behind dropping the Vyrso application from Kindle.  I certainly use my Kindle as a preferred reader.  This makes it hard for me to use my Logos library when I am away from home.  My iPhone Plus screen is small for older eyes.  I am a retired lay person and cannot readily upgrade to Logos 6, or now 7;  I am still on Logos 5.  

    Can someone please send me instructions on how to send the Basics of Biblical Hebrew Vocabulary App to my Kindle Fire using My Macbook Pro and  Logos 5?  (The instructions above imply it is more difficult and probably a different process for Logos 5.)  Thank you.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,639

    HI Caryn - and welcome to the forums

    I don't understand the reasoning behind dropping the Vyrso application from Kindle

    I don't understand - as far as I knew the Logos apps were still supported on Kindle Fire as per https://community.logos.com/forums/p/131783/857559.aspx#857559 

     I am a retired lay person and cannot readily upgrade to Logos 6, or now 7

    As above I don't think is the issue to focus on - at least initially - but the free Logos 6 engine is available at https://www.logos.com/support/install_logos_6 and the free Logos 7 engine should be available next month. Upgrading to Logos 6 is recommended as 5 is no longer supported.

    Can someone please send me instructions on how to send the Basics of Biblical Hebrew Vocabulary App to my Kindle Fire using My Macbook Pro and  Logos 5?

    I know I haven't answered this question but, hopefully, if we can work out why you aren't able to use the Logos apps on Kindle Fire it won't be necessary!

    Graham

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    I don't understand the reasoning behind dropping the Vyrso application from Kindle.  I certainly use my Kindle as a preferred reader.

    As Graham said, "welcome!" [:)]

    I think he gave you what you needed, but for clarification: The announcement about "send to kindle" does not refer to Kindle Fire devices. The "send to kindle" service was a way to get Logos resources on the eInk (non-fire) kindle devices, which don't run apps. 

    Also, Faithlife develops mobile apps for iOS & Android. The Kindle Fire devices run a modified version of Android. Consequently, they have a greater say over which apps they sell in their app store and/or allow to run on their devices. If you continue to have issues with your fire, you should create a new thread in the ANDROID forum. That will allow you to get the best help possible. 

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    Press CTRL+A then CTRL+SHIFT+F9 to remove all hyperlinks.

    On Word for Mac 2016, here is the equivalent:  "If you want to remove multiple hyperlinks, press  COMMAND +A to select all text and then press  COMMAND +6."

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    clicking in one, then choose "Select text with similar formatting"

    If this is possible in Word for Mac 2016, I don't know how. 

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  • James Taylor
    James Taylor Member Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    If this is possible in Word for Mac 2016

    Yes it is, while in the home view on the ribbon, click on the styles pane in the upper right corner, then you will see a button on the right of that pane that says "select all". Just be sure you are clicked in an area containing the style you'd like to select all instances of

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  • Fos Zoe
    Fos Zoe Member Posts: 107 ✭✭

    I can't adjust font size on my kindle after I down Load the file. Did I do something wrong or is that the way it is?

  • Nathan Parker
    Nathan Parker Member Posts: 772 ✭✭✭

    Is there a way to filter the library to only show resources that have not been sent to kindle? Or can we automatically create a collection of not sent-to-kindle resources?

    No, sorry. 

    The only thing you could start doing is look at the books you've sent to Kindle, then tag them with "Kindle" using Library tags, and do this each time you send one to your Kindle, to keep track of it.

    Dr. Nathan Parker

  • Nathan Parker
    Nathan Parker Member Posts: 772 ✭✭✭

    Are there any advantages to Mark's method versus exporting to PDF instead?

    Dr. Nathan Parker

  • Bernhard
    Bernhard Member Posts: 662 ✭✭

    Are there any advantages to Mark's method versus exporting to PDF instead?

    The text is reflowable, therefore much better suited for a small e-reader screen.

  • Mike Tourangeau
    Mike Tourangeau Member Posts: 1,547 ✭✭

    Do I have to have Word for this procedure? I am on a Mac and have Pages but I cannot figure out how to select by "style" as Mark shows. Is this a Microsoft thing? I can do it by hand but it's tedious......

  • David Kim
    David Kim Member Posts: 44 ✭✭

    Hello, I am using the latest version of logos, Word, and running the lates MacOS Mojave. I followed your steps but when I paste, send to microsoft word, etc. It's only pasting the last chapter of the book. It's so frustrating :) And, in Logos, I am under the 100 page threshold for the whole book so I don't know what's going on. Any help? 

  • Mervin Lin
    Mervin Lin Member Posts: 3

    David Kim said:

    Hello, I am using the latest version of logos, Word, and running the lates MacOS Mojave. I followed your steps but when I paste, send to microsoft word, etc. It's only pasting the last chapter of the book. It's so frustrating :) And, in Logos, I am under the 100 page threshold for the whole book so I don't know what's going on. Any help? 

    Did you miss out on step 6 where you need to reference the entire book?
  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Did you miss out on step 6 where you need to reference the entire book?

    In the video? It's 1:47 in: https://youtu.be/ANfakC6QSlw?t=107 

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  • Mervin Lin
    Mervin Lin Member Posts: 3

    Did you miss out on step 6 where you need to reference the entire book?

    In the video? It's 1:47 in: https://youtu.be/ANfakC6QSlw?t=107 

    Sorry, Mark was replying to David Kim but forgot to quote. [:)]

  • David Kim
    David Kim Member Posts: 44 ✭✭

    Thank you Mark for taking the time to answer my question. So, I finally figured out ... kinda. I try the steps with another book in my library and it had no problem at all. It's my new book that I downloaded that is having an issue for some reason. I bought the book via Vyrso. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Do you know think I should re-download? If so, do you have any idea how I can re-download a book? Thank you again Mark and everyone! 

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    David Kim said:

    I bought the book via Vyrso. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Do you know think I should re-download?

    Vyrso books tend not to have page numbers, so that makes it difficult. Re-downloading won't help.

    Instead, you'll have to check all the boxes in the "Use these sections" column. Boxes that have sub-sections (you can tell by the arrow next to the box) should be clicked with the right mouse button, not the left. That will eanble you to "select all" the sub-sections.

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  • Rene Hamburger
    Rene Hamburger Member Posts: 3

    Thanks for sharing this, Mark!

    For those who are missing the convenient, clickable Logos' Bible references on Kindle and are using Microsoft Word on Windows, you can give the Word add-in Blinx a try. It converts the Logos Bible references to hyperlinks pointing to an online Bible and (more importantly) adds footnotes with the Bible passage to each of them. The generic footnote symbol being used can then be clicked on your Kindle to display the passage.

    Once you've installed Blinx, instead of removing all hyperlinks at the beginning of step 8 in Mark's instructions, do the following:

    • Press CTRL+A and then ALT+B to convert all links and add the passage footnotes.

    You will need to adjust the Logos "Copy Bible Verses" settings to determine the Bible version and format of the passage being inserted. (Unless you have BibleWorks installed, which allows Blinx to determine the Bible version and format itself and is currently checked first.)

  • Marek.
    Marek. Member Posts: 6

    Great post Mark, however, I have a question. I understand that it is Amazon's fault that the "send to kindle" function is no longer supported, but why Logos has an export to Word function, but it is not possible to download purchased books in mobi or epub formats? After all, they are generated automatically (they do in all stores). That would simplify things, because I could download the mobi format and put it on a kindle myself.

  • Marek.
    Marek. Member Posts: 6

    The tutorial is no longer helpful, Logos changed the export settings so that it is not possible to send the entire book. I really don't understand this policy. After all, they do not have to get along with Amazon, it would be enough to enable export in mobi format. Buying books in Logos is pointless.

  • Mervin Lin
    Mervin Lin Member Posts: 3

    If the book is too long, even for a virtual A2 size paper, you will need to export the book into parts. I usually go chapter by chapter. Then merge them together in Word.

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2

    It seems this is problematic now...just tried it with Logos 9 on PC and I could not export the whole book. I could export a section at a time into Word and combine each section. I did that, but the heading styles in the book I exported were not unique and I could not just select all heading and make them heading 1. I brute force pushed through and got this to work still but...it was not worth it. After over an hour for a single book I am wishing I had bought this book on Kindle instead of getting it FOR FREE on Logos. Bummer.

    I know this is an old post, but I don't see an updated way to do this and wanted to share my experience in 2021 (5 years after this article was posted).

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2

    I have to agree with you here. If I could export the book as a MOBI format, I could import it on my Kindle Paperwhite. If I am going to read a digital book, I prefer to use a Kindle. The "10 minutes" per book took me maybe 2 hours. Never again will I do this, unless it becomes push-button simple.