Video Tutorial: How to Send to Kindle after the "Send to Kindle" service is switched off

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Did you miss out on step 6 where you need to reference the entire book?

    In the video? It's 1:47 in: https://youtu.be/ANfakC6QSlw?t=107 

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  • Mervin Lin
    Mervin Lin Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    Did you miss out on step 6 where you need to reference the entire book?

    In the video? It's 1:47 in: https://youtu.be/ANfakC6QSlw?t=107 

    Sorry, Mark was replying to David Kim but forgot to quote. [:)]

  • David Kim
    David Kim Member Posts: 44 ✭✭

    Thank you Mark for taking the time to answer my question. So, I finally figured out ... kinda. I try the steps with another book in my library and it had no problem at all. It's my new book that I downloaded that is having an issue for some reason. I bought the book via Vyrso. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Do you know think I should re-download? If so, do you have any idea how I can re-download a book? Thank you again Mark and everyone! 

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    David Kim said:

    I bought the book via Vyrso. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Do you know think I should re-download?

    Vyrso books tend not to have page numbers, so that makes it difficult. Re-downloading won't help.

    Instead, you'll have to check all the boxes in the "Use these sections" column. Boxes that have sub-sections (you can tell by the arrow next to the box) should be clicked with the right mouse button, not the left. That will eanble you to "select all" the sub-sections.

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  • Rene Hamburger
    Rene Hamburger Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    Thanks for sharing this, Mark!

    For those who are missing the convenient, clickable Logos' Bible references on Kindle and are using Microsoft Word on Windows, you can give the Word add-in Blinx a try. It converts the Logos Bible references to hyperlinks pointing to an online Bible and (more importantly) adds footnotes with the Bible passage to each of them. The generic footnote symbol being used can then be clicked on your Kindle to display the passage.

    Once you've installed Blinx, instead of removing all hyperlinks at the beginning of step 8 in Mark's instructions, do the following:

    • Press CTRL+A and then ALT+B to convert all links and add the passage footnotes.

    You will need to adjust the Logos "Copy Bible Verses" settings to determine the Bible version and format of the passage being inserted. (Unless you have BibleWorks installed, which allows Blinx to determine the Bible version and format itself and is currently checked first.)

  • Marek.
    Marek. Member Posts: 6 ✭✭

    Great post Mark, however, I have a question. I understand that it is Amazon's fault that the "send to kindle" function is no longer supported, but why Logos has an export to Word function, but it is not possible to download purchased books in mobi or epub formats? After all, they are generated automatically (they do in all stores). That would simplify things, because I could download the mobi format and put it on a kindle myself.

  • Marek.
    Marek. Member Posts: 6 ✭✭

    The tutorial is no longer helpful, Logos changed the export settings so that it is not possible to send the entire book. I really don't understand this policy. After all, they do not have to get along with Amazon, it would be enough to enable export in mobi format. Buying books in Logos is pointless.

  • Mervin Lin
    Mervin Lin Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    If the book is too long, even for a virtual A2 size paper, you will need to export the book into parts. I usually go chapter by chapter. Then merge them together in Word.

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2 ✭✭

    It seems this is problematic now...just tried it with Logos 9 on PC and I could not export the whole book. I could export a section at a time into Word and combine each section. I did that, but the heading styles in the book I exported were not unique and I could not just select all heading and make them heading 1. I brute force pushed through and got this to work still but...it was not worth it. After over an hour for a single book I am wishing I had bought this book on Kindle instead of getting it FOR FREE on Logos. Bummer.

    I know this is an old post, but I don't see an updated way to do this and wanted to share my experience in 2021 (5 years after this article was posted).

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2 ✭✭

    I have to agree with you here. If I could export the book as a MOBI format, I could import it on my Kindle Paperwhite. If I am going to read a digital book, I prefer to use a Kindle. The "10 minutes" per book took me maybe 2 hours. Never again will I do this, unless it becomes push-button simple.

  • David Warren Knight
    David Warren Knight Member Posts: 1

    In any case, Logos has had for quite some time a limitation on the export to 100 pages at a time.  This is still true in Logos 10.

    Not having uniform heading styles in your book would certainly make it more time consuming. 

    In some cases, converting from Logos to ebook formats is the only option if the book is not available in other ebook formats other than Logos.  I'm currently working on converting The Revised English Bible to kindle format as because as far as I've been able to find the only ebook format it is available in is in Logos.  It does have consistent formatting for the book and chapter headings, but unfortunately Word requires the headings to be on their own line, and the REB has the chapter numbers on the same line with the text of the chapter, so I have to add a carriage return after the chapter numbers and then do the exercise of selecting all text with similar formatting and changing the chapter numbers to Heading 2 to get a proper hierarchical table of contents.

    A few other tips - 1) I've been following another procedure which is found here: https://wiki.logos.com/Export_a_Logos_Resource_to_an_eReader_format_$28Kindle,_Nook,_etc.$29.  It also works well.  2) The only caveat is that in Step 11 it tells you to use Calibre to export the book to your device, which does work, but I ended up with a huge flat TOC with the books and chapters all in one lengthy list.  After a bit of investigation I discovered that it was automatically converting the book to MOBI format on my Kindle.  If I used Calibre to manually convert the book to Amazon's native AZW3 format first, then that is the format that it will transfer to the device, and you end up with a proper hierarchical table of contents, being able to expand the books to get the chapter links (hope that makes sense).

  • Juraschek, Loyal C.
    Juraschek, Loyal C. Member Posts: 7 ✭✭

    Okay, so it looks like there's now three possible ways to read a Logos book on an e-ink Kindle:

    1. Continue doing a normal "Send to Kindle" method as described here. This is the most popular and known method in these more recent threads, but raises legal/ethical concerns for many and takes too long for others.
    2. Jailbreak/root the Kindle, turn it into a second monitor for your computer, and open/control Logos on your PC. This is hard, risky, clunky, and apparently irrevocably destroys some Kindles (or, at least my particular Paperwhite 6) from being a normal Kindle ever again.
    3. Go to Biblia.com in the Experimental Browser and use Article Mode. It was mentioned in 2011 threads, but I only found it after browsing this forum for the past year or so.

    I just confirmed that #3 still works 12 years later on my Paperwhite 6. It requires no special setup, no hacking, and no (as far as I know) potential ethical/legal concerns.

    Cons of #3:

    • It is slightly clunky because it takes a little maneuvering to ignore the "invalid certificate," log in, get to your library, choose the book, go to the contents, and choose the section you want to start from. However, if you trim everything past the period in the URL (so, for example, if the URL ends in /article/R10.1.1A, trim it to /article/R10) and then go to article mode, it may load a huge portion of the book instead of just that section so that you don't have to go out of Article Mode every time you finish a section. Otherwise, you need to get out of Article Mode (or just don't use Article Mode altogether) and tap the faint-ish arrows to move to the next section.
    • Like #2, this will only let you view the book, not highlight and make notes.
    • Footnotes don't seem to work when tapped on my PW6 (in Article Mode or not).
    • Forum users say it drains battery faster by being on the internet.
    • You need internet to load the book.
    • It only scrolls; no page turns by just tapping the screen.
    • I don't see a way to adjust it from the default font size (plenty readable for me, but something to note).
    • Switching to desktop mode out of curiosity makes you need to clear your cache and/or cookies and re-log in.

    As one who almost did option #2, I just want to make sure other browsers of this forum like me can find that #3 exists. I, for one, think it's super cool that Faithlife still hosts Biblia.com when they have app.logos.com, ostensibly for just such backwards-compatible and lower-spec use cases. Even if limited in its current state, it may be able to get the job done for some.

    Here's a few old threads that mention #3:

    https://community.logos.com/forums/t/39450.aspx

    https://community.logos.com/forums/t/27872.aspx

    https://community.logos.com/forums/p/31879/237107.aspx

  • Bob Price
    Bob Price Member Posts: 99 ✭✭

    Thank you for sharing these options.  I've bought so many books over the years, but haven't tried to read them outside of Logos since they got rid of the Vyrso app.  I was just starting to read a book and was feeling bummed about my best option being to read it on an iOS device and just leave a tab open until I finished the book.  This thread shows me it's possible to export the book to Kindle, and while not perfect, I'm so glad to find this, as I've been having trouble with my eyes lately on computer screens.  Being able to read on my Kindle is a real blessing!

    If you have a paid version of Microsoft Word, there is now an add-on that restores the "Send to Kindle" functionality, and it's really good!  Yes, we're still subject to the 100 page limit, so obviously you wouldn't want to use this for lots of books all at once.  For me, it's just a way to be able to read the books I've purchased on a more eye-friendly device.

    You mentioned some having ethical concerns.  If it's for your own use, I'm not sure what those concerns would be.  I believe this falls under "fair use", and I'm very thankful that the means to do so are still present.  No book exported in this way should be shared with anyone else, as I believe the intent is to allow us to get the most use out of the resources we've purchased.  

    Thank, you Logos, for permitting this kind of use.

  • Joshua Hürzeler
    Joshua Hürzeler Member Posts: 7
    edited February 23

    This tip still works in 2025.

    I could successfully export the N. T. Wrights "für heute" Books to my eBook reader.

    On my mac if i set the pages i then need to select another category and then the custom page radio button to get it updated.

    To get even larger Page size of A1, I used following virtual PDF Print Driver: https://github.com/rodyager/RWTS-PDFwriter

    For removing Hyperlinks in Word after CMD+A to select everything, at the same time, holding "FN," press "Command+Shift+F9" simultaneously.

    I then imported the Word in Calibre and converted it there to an Epub: https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conversion.html. Afterwards i added all metadata.

    Finally I moved the book via calibre to my Pocket Book Reader.

    Hope this helps anyone 😃