Transfixus Sed Non Mortuus?

Hello all you Latin aficionados!

This is the motto of the crest of my last name (Walsh). I suspect it may come from an extremely old Latin version of 2 Cor. 4:9. Does anyone on the forums who is familiar with Latin know of an old Latin Bible version containing this rendering? I checked the vulgate, but it is a little different?

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MJ. Smith

I'd check to see if http://www.vetuslatina.org/ has any hints for a search site.

David J. Wilson

Hi Liam:

A quick Google search brings up a more likely explanation of the origin of the motto wording:

See Google Books, Revue historique de l'Ouest, edited by Gaston Louis Michel Marie baron de Carné, Page 350,

although the wording is close enough to that of 2 Cor 4:9 that it may have been a "quote from memory" during the heat of battle !!

https://books.google.ca/books?id=eZssAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA350&lpg=PA350

Liam

Hmmm, wish I could read French (I think)...

David J. Wilson

Google may again be able to help you with that now that you have the text:

https://translate.google.ca/?hl=en&tab=wT

(suggest you leave out the Latin to avoid getting it confused)

Greg F

Transfixus means "pierced" or "thrust through". So a literal translation would be "Pierced, but not dead".

The French translation above is less literal: "Hurt, but still alive."

An idiomatic English translation would be something like "Bruised, but not broken."

I hope that helps!