To my Orthodox Friends and NT Critism Scholars

delete12066188
delete12066188 Member Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I'm looking for an Edition representing the Byzanz Textform. What do you thinks about this?


https://www.logos.com/product/2390/the-greek-new-testament-according-to-the-majority-text-with-apparatus 

https://www.logos.com/product/32420/the-patriarchal-greek-new-testament 

I already have RP but this one has Apparatus

The Patriarchal Greek New Testament is, if I understand it right, goes with Minuskel and Lectionaries who are not in other critical Edition...

would PGNT a good Choice for Comparison? Or better GNT with the Apparatus?

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,243 ✭✭✭✭

    Depends on what you mean by 'Byzantine'.  I'm guessing from your title, the eastern side of the church ... which at one time was the western side.

    In that case, your PNT would be an interesting choice, since it includes clues on how it was built.

    The Majority resource you mention, I have mixed feelings ... basically a run at the western side of the church (vs the egyptian).  So also PR and several others. The apparatus is a sleeper ... sums majority vs egyptian, with terse comments. The PB on varients is much better. And even better, CNTTS color coded by period.

    You might also look at Tischendorph, quite old, but still quite interesting on majority type texts. And for curiousity, Newberry Interlinear which combines the 1550 TR with Robinson's morphs.

    Lastly, to mix your mind up, Kirsopp Lake's 'Text of the New Testament' .... he spent quite a bit of time at Mount Athos with the manuscripts there.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • delete12066188
    delete12066188 Member Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭

    Hi Denise

    thanks for for your help. Yes I thought another few on the Text would be helpful in my Study. I already have Nestle Aland, GNT, Westscott, TR and Tischendorf so as RP in Logos.

  • Lee
    Lee Member Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭

    I'm looking for an Edition representing the Byzanz Textform. What do you thinks about this?

    The answer depends on the task you are trying to accomplish.

  • delete12066188
    delete12066188 Member Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭

    On of my Studies (on my own) is Textual Critism and the Transmission of the Bible. So I like to find every Side of it. Since the "Normal" Critical Editions goes bevor the Majority Text, I also have RP with it. What I found interresing is that the Patriarchical Eddition seem to have the Minuscles and Lectionaries from the 9 - 16 Century, so it would give another Perspektive.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,843

    More importantly (for my interests) the PATr is the version that Greek Orthodox hear in the Divine Service and expect to see used to verify doctrine ...

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Lee
    Lee Member Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭

    On of my Studies (on my own) is Textual Critism and the Transmission of the Bible. So I like to find every Side of it. Since the "Normal" Critical Editions goes bevor the Majority Text, I also have RP with it. What I found interresing is that the Patriarchical Eddition seem to have the Minuscles and Lectionaries from the 9 - 16 Century, so it would give another Perspektive.

    That's good. You're already aware that there is not one definitive RP, and at the same time you're not doing rigorous textual criticism requiring exhaustive references. Any of the titles mentioned in this thread should serve your purpose.