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One of the seminary professors who attends our church was just saying last week that Block's Ezekiel is considered by some to be the best commentary ever written. It's on my list. I am just sending a message to this guy to see what else I should be picking up.
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Matthew C Jones said:
You are limited to 20. So "all" will not work for most of us. But I do have quite a few already.
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The code doesn't apply for The Book of Judges - the only one I need.
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David A Egolf said:
You are limited to 20. So "all" will not work for most of us.
Get the highest MSRP and leverage the dynamic pricing on the rest.
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Fasil said:
The code doesn't apply for The Book of Judges - the only one I need.
That is probably because you have to buy 20 books for the code to work. 20 copies of judges then? j/k
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Mattillo said:
That is probably because you have to buy 20 books for the code to work. 20 copies of judges then? j/k
No, the sale allows you to buy "up to 20" volumes from the selected list.
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Yes you are correct David... sorry. I checked the link above and judges isn't on the list so either that is by error or design. Sorry but it seems judges isn't included
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David A Egolf said:
One of the seminary professors who attends our church was just saying last week that Block's Ezekiel is considered by some to be the best commentary ever written. It's on my list. I am just sending a message to this guy to see what else I should be picking up.
I've got it and personally I agree :-) Block is fantastic :-)
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I Recommond
Moo on Romans
Mounce on Revelation.
Not the best for each subject, but very worthy of adding to your library.
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Fasil said:
The code doesn't apply for The Book of Judges - the only one I need.
Judges (as well as Psalms and the 2nd edition of 1 Corinthians) are not included in this promotion as they released fairly recently off of Pre-Pub and we wanted to honor those who purchased at the Pre-Pub price.
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Derek Fekkes said:Fasil said:
The code doesn't apply for The Book of Judges - the only one I need.
Judges (as well as Psalms and the 2nd edition of 1 Corinthians) are not included in this promotion as they released fairly recently off of Pre-Pub and we wanted to honor those who purchased at the Pre-Pub price.
K [:'(] thanks for the clarification Derek! I wish I get it this time. I bought most of the other books in full price.
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I'm truly sorry folks, but the title of this thread just begs a question! Would that be something that Charlton Heston would have said?
(Think: Soylent Green
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Mattillo said:
That is probably because you have to buy 20 books for the code to work
The add says "up to 20" not just "20".
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Yeah I have to work on my reading comprehension
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Mattillo said:
I don't see a date/date range for the sale when following the link. Anyone know what it is?
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Rick Ausdahl said:Mattillo said:
I don't see a date/date range for the sale when following the link. Anyone know what it is?
I called the sales number. The rep, Zach, told me that it was up to the publisher and they could end it when they achieved their goals. So he couldn't give a fixed end date. He did suggest that it would last at least a week, and probably two weeks.
There were certainly no promises given. So I do not plan to wait too long.
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David A Egolf said:
One of the seminary professors who attends our church was just saying last week that Block's Ezekiel is considered by some to be the best commentary ever written.
Thanks, David.
Did the professor mention why he considered Block's commentaries the "best"?
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Matthew C Jones said:David A Egolf said:
You are limited to 20. So "all" will not work for most of us.
Get the highest MSRP and leverage the dynamic pricing on the rest.
I like your strategy. I have attempted to attach an Excel spreadsheet to this post. It has the original prices of all the offered books. For those who wish to get a complete set, they can mark off the books they already have, then select the 20 most expensive books which are left. This spreadsheet might help (if it uploads).
On the other hand, for those of us who are just trying to get the best references, I have provided two columns of rankings in the spreadsheet. The first is how the books of this series are ranked by BestCommentaries.com. The second column is from a blog posted at The Gospel Coalition. It was suggested by the Logos sales rep. This blog content should not be interpreted as an endorsement by The Gospel Coalition.
URL's to both web sites are included at the end of the spreadsheet. The TGC site was interesting in that the reviewer provided quite a bit of commentary on his choices. One might find this to be helpful information.
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Great sale, but bad timing as I have other priorities and don't really want to add to my payment plan as I don't know if it will be affected dramatically with the new policy. Not in a rush, but sad you can only buy 20 volumes.
DAL
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I have a better strategy -- you buy 20 volumes and get someone else (e.g. Brother, wife) to buy you the other 20 volumes as a "gift", you just give them the money to do the transaction 😉 Going for the highest MSRP doesn't work as good.
DAL
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I don't see the spreadsheet. Could you maybe attach The TGC link?
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I grabbed all the volumes that I didn't already own. Good Deal!
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The link for the spreadsheet is right under my name on the post where I reference it. It's name is: NICOT_Sale.xlsx
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Steve said:
Did the professor mention why he considered Block's commentaries the "best"?
He was not specific at the time. However, I believe that he was enamored with the completeness of the coverage at various levels; i.e., technicality, application, language; etc.
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Thank you! I didn't even notice that small hyperlink
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A great sale! If I did not have them all, I would buy them all.
My very favorite commentary is John Oswalt's Isaiah. Don't miss those two volumes at this price.
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I've opted for the greatest savings now :-) I already have several of these but i am very happy to pick up over a $1000 of top rated commentary for $400 - thanks to all concerned for making this offer possible :-)
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Last night, a Logos rep left a voice-message on my home phone in response to an email I'd sent in. He said the sale was good through July 5th. Hopefully all the reps have the same (and accurate) info, but I don't plan to wait too long either.David A Egolf said:Rick Ausdahl said:Mattillo said:I don't see a date/date range for the sale when following the link. Anyone know what it is?
I called the sales number. The rep, Zach, told me that it was up to the publisher and they could end it when they achieved their goals. So he couldn't give a fixed end date. He did suggest that it would last at least a week, and probably two weeks.
There were certainly no promises given. So I do not plan to wait too long.
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Maybe some of you can help me decide on which OT volumes to purchase. I have $40 to spend.
Isaiah - Oswalt (both volumes)
Proverbs - Waltke (both volumes)
Joel/Obadiah/Jonah/Micah (Allen) & Nahum/Habakkuk/Zephaniah (Robertson)
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The Waltke and Robertson volumes are fantastic, but you'll need to spend $60 to get all three of them.
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Brandon Tucker said:
Maybe some of you can help me decide on which OT volumes to purchase. I have $40 to spend.
Isaiah - Oswalt (both volumes)
Proverbs - Waltke (both volumes)
Joel/Obadiah/Jonah/Micah (Allen) & Nahum/Habakkuk/Zephaniah (Robertson)
Brandon, it depends what you need. What will help you most with what you are trying to study?
My guess is that you can make more sense of Proverbs without a commentary than you can with the prophets. I personally bought Isaiah (both vol), because that's what I need. Are you more likely to be studying Isaiah or the minor prophets?
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David A Egolf said:
One of the seminary professors who attends our church was just saying last week that Block's Ezekiel is considered by some to be the best commentary ever written. It's on my list. I am just sending a message to this guy to see what else I should be picking up.
It's very good (one of the few NIC OT/NT). I like Oswalt's commentary on Isaiah even better. When I read it for technical content, it ended up being a devotional / worship experience as well.
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If you browse through BestCommentaries.com you'll see many of these volumes ranked very highly.
For those unfamiliar:
NICOT http://bestcommentaries.com/series/new-international-commentary-on-the-old-testament-nicot/
NICNT http://bestcommentaries.com/series/new-international-commentary-on-the-new-testament-nicnt/
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I have been waiting for something like this for a long time. Picked up a handful with a very limited similar deal a while back. Now I am going hog-wild. A very disciplined, pray-about-it, communicate-well-with-my-wife, get-her-approval-and-enthusiasm sort of hog wild.
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I am just thinking WHY do we/I need one more commentary... is NICOT/NT so much better than WBC and others?
Looked at my own library and I have between 14 to 51 commentaries per book of the Bible now, Do I really need to get some of the NICOT/NT series so I can say that I have some of the best called commentaries?
I do have five volumes of NICNT because of past march madness.. But I also have all of the WBC series that I am very happy with as my most used commentary.
My main question is why, what more can someone give us that is not already in the other commentaries? Maybe a different view point.
Also I don't have close to needed money to get many of the volumes anyway. I thinking of maybe 3 to 4 at most but then like others I found myself asking which if I get any.
I looked close at Isaiah & Ezekiel, or maybe Matthew, Mark, Luke, Because i have ( John, Acts, and Romans ).
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Lee said:
I am just thinking WHY do we/I need one more commentary... is NICOT/NT so much better than WBC and others?
I have no experience with the NICOT - but have used a few volumes of NICNT for decades. All commentaries have their strengths and weaknesses and generalizing about various series is more than a bit hazardous. That said, I would say that the NIC is more consistently Evangelical (in the Anglo-American sense) than WBC, and also is much easier to read. The NIC seems written for two audiences to me - people who just want to know what the author says the passage means can just read the text and scholars who want to see how this reading fits and interacts with what others can go to the footnotes. Attempting to bridge this gap lets it put the cookies where more people can reach it, but also means that by trying to be all things for all people, it can kinda not do as well as commentaries that have a more focused audience for that audience.
As far as the volumes of which you speak, I have not used any of them. Will almost certainly get Matthew since I have been impressed with France's NIGTC volume on Mark. Lane's volume on Mark is almost a classic work of Evangelical scholarship, but personally would want to get a more up-to-date volume in this sale. I have heard many great things about Green's volume on Luke - and will probably grab it. From what I hear, it focuses on the narrative aspects of Luke but is a bit light on historical issues.
Because of the comments earlier in this topic, I am also looking at Isaiah and Ezekiel...
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Interesting. Thank you! I wish I could have bought more but I was limited to 20 and I didn't own any of these so I just went with my gut on the books I was most interested with a few trips to the earlier mentioned rating sites. I grabbed: Gen, Deut, Proverbs, Ezekiel, Synoptics, John by Morris, Acts, Romans, 1 Cor, 2 Cor, Phil, Col-Philemon-Eph, Thes, Tim-Titus, and Rev
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Logos' version of the top 10 to own
https://blog.logos.com/2016/06/definitive-top-10-volumes-nicotnicnt/
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Lee said:
I am just thinking WHY do we/I need one more commentary... is NICOT/NT so much better than WBC and others?
I would say that if you have a good handle on commetnaries for individual books then pick and choose on these. Personally, as a whole I don't rank NICOT/NT much higher than 3 on my list as a series and just a few individual volumes are on my "must crack when I study this Bible book..."
I picked up a couple of volumes to go with the 3 or so I already have. Worth it for just the resource refernce imo.
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Everett Headley said:
I would say that if you have a good handle on commetnaries for individual books then pick and choose on these. Personally, as a whole I don't rank NICOT/NT much higher than 3 on my list as a series and just a few individual volumes are on my "must crack when I study this Bible book..."
I picked up a couple of volumes to go with the 3 or so I already have. Worth it for just the resource refernce imo.
Everett, What are your top commentaries if you don't mind me asking?
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of the NIC series:
I would say Romans and Revelation are must haves. Moo has a course available for free of his lectures (google it) and preaching through Revelation I have found Revelation to be very helpful.
After that if I had money I would get Genesis, 1 Corinthians (not on sale), and Acts.
If I still had money I think I'd wait to get something else.
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Interesting and thank you!
What are your other favorite series though besides NIC
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Surprisingly enough, I own a lot of the "top 5 or 10" commentaries. And I can say that a lot of the ratings are subjective. For example, I love F.F. Bruce, but in my opinion Darrell Bock's volume on Acts is number 1 for me and not Bruce's volume. Same for Hebrews I'd put Peter O'Brien from PNTC as 1 instead of Bruce's volume. Romans I'd give N.T. Wright the #1 spot from the NIB series and Shriner on Romans BECNT #2. I don't own Moo, but I've read it and he would come in at # 3 for me on his solid work on Romans.
If I had money I would beef up on the NICOT volumes as OT commentaries is something I'm lacking in my library, though I still own some of the top 10.
I believe price is an issue with the NIC series but then again when you consider PNTC and BECNT those 2 series on the NT only will exceed the price of the NICNT set when they get completed.
As someone stated before. Learn to shop around and try to get the better commentaries on individual books of the Bible instead of focusing on a complete series, it might just help you better in your studies. Also remember the different commentaries out there and choose accordingly based on your preaching style (e.g. Technical, Expository, Devotional, etc.). Mark Barnes has a guide on the types of commentaries out ther. It's very helpful, but I cannot find the link to it.
DAL
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Wow that does sound helpful. If you do ever find it I'd love to see it
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Mattillo said:
Wow that does sound helpful. If you do ever find it I'd love to see it
Here you go: http://www.logosbiblesoftwaretraining.com/documents/suggested-commentary-tags/
Thank God for google!
DAL
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Thank God for you too!
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