Bible Search Problem or is it just me?

Alan Macgregor
Alan Macgregor Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I know that there is probably a simple explanation for this, but I cannot see any way of changing my search range in a Bible search.

There should be some drop-downs to select above the search text box, but they seem to be lost.

Help!

Every blessing

Alan

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  • Keith Pang
    Keith Pang Member Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭

    I couldn't recreate what you have here. Maybe try and restart your computer and Logos?

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  • Alan Macgregor
    Alan Macgregor Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭

    I couldn't recreate what you have here. Maybe try and restart your computer and Logos?

    Thanks, Keith. I tried your suggestion but it didn't help.

    Funny thing is that I get the dropdown for search ranges above the Search Box in the other kinds of searches.

    But

    [:'(]

    Every blessing

    Alan

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  • Keith Pang
    Keith Pang Member Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭

    Sorry Alan, I have no idea. That is very strange. [:S]

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  • Myke Harbuck
    Myke Harbuck Member Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭

    strange! I tried everything I can think of to reproduce this error and I could not. Maybe some of the big dogs can.

    Are you on Beta?

    Myke Harbuck
    Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
    Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

  • Lonnie Spencer
    Lonnie Spencer Member Posts: 371 ✭✭

    Did you click on the little arrow below the blue "all passages" or on the blue "all passages". in the bible search. That is how I change my verse ranges.

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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  • Alan Macgregor
    Alan Macgregor Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭

    Lonnie Spencer said:

    Did you click on the little arrow below the blue "all passages" or on the blue "all passages". in the bible search. That is how I change my verse ranges.

    Thanks for your suggestion, but I can't do it!

    If you look at my screenshots, you'll see that there are no blue dropdown in the Bible Search. I have many saved ranges, built up over years, but I cannot access them from the Bible Search

    Every blessing

    Alan

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  • Alan Macgregor
    Alan Macgregor Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭

    Beloved said:

    Try resizing your panel. 

    Thanks, but I tried that to no effect. I've tried changing layouts, even searching from a blank layout. It makes no difference. I wonder if some setting has been tweaked "under the bonnet" during the last update?

    Here are my Settings.

    Any thoughts, anyone?

    Every blessing

    Alan

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,120

    Dave
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  • Alan Macgregor
    Alan Macgregor Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭

    Try adjusting "Program Scaling"

    Dave,

    Thanks for the suggestion. After I posted the screen shot I noticed that my scaling was set at 120%, and tried reducing it to 100%.
    It made no difference.

    What I really can't figure out is why it is only the Bible Search that doesn't have the menu bar above the Search Text Box. It's available in the other types of search.

    Every blessing
    Alan

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  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Try adjusting "Program Scaling"

    Dave, Thanks for the suggestion. After I posted the screen shot I noticed that my scaling was set at 120%, and tried reducing it to 100%. It made no difference. What I really can't figure out is why it is only the Bible Search that doesn't have the menu bar above the Search Text Box. It's available in the other types of search. Every blessing Alan

    As Sgt. Schultz in Hogan's Heros used to say "Verrrry interestink."  Try running a search without any parameters then try it again.  Perhaps it will jar something loose.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Alan Macgregor
    Alan Macgregor Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭

    Try running a search without any parameters then try it again.

    Thanks for the suggestion, George. Unfortunately I can't do any Bible search and alter the range parameters. Bible search is locked into searching the Pauline epistles only! Because I cannot access the menu bar, I am unable to remove/alter those parameters.

    BTW. I seem to remember "Verry interesting" from Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In in the 1960s. As I recall the little German soldier's face appeared from behind palm leaves and said, "Verry interesting … but stupid" as a critical commentary about the previous sketch/remark on the show.

    Every blessing

    Alan

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  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭

    Bible search is locked into searching the Pauline epistles only! Because I cannot access the menu bar, I am unable to remove/alter those parameters.

    You should contact Technical support. Unfortunately they don't take direct calls anymore. You must contact them by email tech@logos.com. In the mean time, one more idea. Close Search and open History; select another Bible Search from the list and open it. As George says, maybe it will jar something loose. [:)]

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  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    BTW. I seem to remember "Verry interesting" from Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In in the 1960s. As I recall the little German soldier's face appeared from behind palm leaves and said, "Verry interesting … but stupid" as a critical commentary about the previous sketch/remark on the show.

    Yes, you are correct.  The German soldier was Artie Johnson.  My mistake.  Sgt Schultz's remark was "I know nothink."  

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the suggestion, George. Unfortunately I can't do any Bible search and alter the range parameters. Bible search is locked into searching the Pauline epistles only! Because I cannot access the menu bar, I am unable to remove/alter those parameters.

    If it's locked into the Pauline epistles, you should be able to search the Pauline epistles without any change I would think.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    BTW, Alan, it's just you.  You aren't holding your mouth right.  [;)]  [:D]

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,120

    Bible search is locked into searching the Pauline epistles only! Because I cannot access the menu bar, I am unable to remove/alter those parameters.

    Try a Bible Search from the Context Menu ("Search this resource") as that will alter parameters.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Alan Macgregor
    Alan Macgregor Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭

    Try a Bible Search from the Context Menu ("Search this resource") as that will alter parameters.

    Dave

    Thanks. Bible search within both Context Menu search and Inline search work fine.

    See my screen shots:

    Inline Search

    Result:

    Context Search

    However, neither is as nimble and multifaceted as the Bible Search proper.

    Furthermore, this is not just a problem on one Mac. Both my Ministry iMac (Retina, 5K, 27-inch) and my Academic iMac (Retina, 4K, 21.5-inch) as well as my MacBook Air behave in exactly the same way. None of them displays a Menu Bar for Bible Searches.

    Every blessing

    Alan

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  • Thomas Ball
    Thomas Ball Member, Logos Employee Posts: 3,261

    Hi Alan,

    Both those searches look like they are inline to me. Searching just that resource (not inline) should display the other search types like Basic, Media, etc. A customer called with this behavior last year. I had them run a search just in that resource from the context menu and that fixed the behavior in that situation. 

     

  • Alan Macgregor
    Alan Macgregor Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭

    Searching just that resource (not inline) should display the other search types like Basic, Media, etc. A customer called with this behavior last year. I had them run a search just in that resource from the context menu and that fixed the behavior in that situation. 

    Tommy

    Did what you suggested. That has fixed it! Many thanks! [:D] Have one on me! [B]

    Dave, sorry but I misunderstood what you meant by Context Search. It was a nomenclature thing, like pane and panel, which I still mix up!

    Many thanks to all who took the time to give me their suggestions.

    Every blessing

    Alan

    One question though, Tommy. Why has it gone like that on all my computers? I'll have to run this fix on them all.

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  • Thomas Ball
    Thomas Ball Member, Logos Employee Posts: 3,261

    One question though, Tommy. Why has it gone like that on all my computers? I'll have to run this fix on them all.

    My guess is that there is some combination of factors that results in the menu options becoming impossible to see and that got synced to all your machines. Try seeing if you really do need to go through those steps on the other machines. If my hunch is correct it should sync across. Renaming your documents folder, opening Logos offline, running a bible search, and then opening back online might also resolve it.

     

  • Alan Macgregor
    Alan Macgregor Member Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭

    My guess is that there is some combination of factors that results in the menu options becoming impossible to see and that got synced to all your machines. Try seeing if you really do need to go through those steps on the other machines. If my hunch is correct it should sync across.

    Tommy

    Your hunch was correct. Opening Logos on the MacBook and opening up  Bible search showed the menu bar restored.

    I'm sure that I'll find it the same when I open up Logos on my Academic iMac.

    Thanks again.

    Every blesssing

    Alan

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