Is it really necessary to re-download everything?

I just purchased the Logos 7 Feature Starter Pack to finally get access to Multiview (for 20 bucks, I figured why not), and now I find myself downloading 13 gigs of resources that are already on my hard drive (in my Verbum 6 installation).

I remember having to go through the same process when going from Logos 5 -> Logos 6. Surely there must be a way to make use of the gigs of data that have already downloaded and indexed, rather than using so much bandwidth and time unnecessarily?

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Francis

Not sure why this is happening. The only resources that downloaded for me where the ones that were updated, a rather small update altogether. Windows or Mac?

If for some reason your resources are not being properly detected, you can try this to forestall the big download: (1) go offline (2) turn on Logos (3) use the "Scan" command with the path to your resource folder to get Logos to rescan it. (4) Restart logos offline to see whether your resources are detected. (5) Restart logos online.

Perhaps others will suggest a better procedure, or better yet, a remedy to prevent this from happening again altogether.

Greg F

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/845288#Comment_845288

Thanks for your help Francis, but it came too late. Perhaps it occurred because I went from Verbum 6 to Logos 7 (and not Verbum 7). But you're right, that shouldn't really be a problem.

To make things worse, I played around with the Multiview function for about 2 minutes before it bugged up and crashed the whole thing on me. *sigh*

Damian McGrath

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/845299#Comment_845299

Perhaps it occurred because I went from Verbum 6 to Logos 7

These would be two different installs rather than just an update.

You should have been able to simply update the Verbum 6 install (I run the Logos program with the Verbum interface, so I am not sure).

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/845300#Comment_845300

As Damian says, if you'd have purchased the Verbum 7 Starter Feature Pack, you wouldn't have had a problem, as the download links would just have updated that installation.

You don't need both Logos and Verbum installed, and you should remove one of them (I would suggest Logos). Your Verbum installation will include all of the features from the Logos Starter Feature Pack, so you won't be missing out on anything.

Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/845306#Comment_845306

It is my understanding -- but Mark can confirm or infirm that -- that it should be possible, in such scenarios, to copy the data and documents folders of one program's installation in the installation folder of the new program in order to avoid downloading everything anew (there are instructions for how to do this on the wiki).

Too bad for this time, Greg, but it may help you in the future and perhaps will help others now.

Greg F

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/845306#Comment_845306

Thank you all for your responses. To respond to Mark: I would have purchased the Verbum 7 upgrade but it was more expensive for features I'd never use.

Surely there must be a simple way for the upgrade to check whether an installation already exists (whether Verbum, Noet, etc.) and simply use the already downloaded resources (perhaps with a reindex), hence the point of my original post.

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/845313#Comment_845313

Surely there must be a simple way for the upgrade to check whether an installation already exists (whether Verbum, Noet, etc.) and simply use the already downloaded resources (perhaps with a reindex).

There isn't. Verbum and Logos are deliberately designed to be separate applications, and there is no upgrade path from one to the other. Many people want to have both installed (for example, to run one in beta and the other in stable, or one for a husband and another for a wife).

But you can run Logos in Verbum mode, and Verbum in Logos mode, so you should never need to move from one to the other.

If you want to install the second app without re-downloading all the resources, that is possible, and the process is documented on the Wiki:

Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/845315#Comment_845315

But you can run Logos in Verbum mode, and Verbum in Logos mode

How?

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/845317#Comment_845317

But you can run Logos in Verbum mode, and Verbum in Logos mode

How?

Use the command "set Verbum to yes/no"

Greg F

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/845315#Comment_845315

There isn't.

Sorry, I should have been more explicit: there should be an easy way for Faithlife to figure out how to reuse the already downloaded resources to save users from having to make multiple downloads. Data is data, I can't imagine there is different tagging for Verbum resources versus Logos.

But no need to beat this one into the ground, I'm satisfied with being unsatisfied.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/845326#Comment_845326

Sorry, I should have been more explicit: there should be an easy way for Faithlife to figure out how to reuse the already downloaded resources to save users from having to make multiple downloads.

There isn't a satisfactory way for Faithlife to implement this unless there is a shared resource folder, but you can nominate a master installation and make its resources available as per Step 1 at https://wiki.logos.com/quick_installation_onto_multiple_computers#Method_3.The other installations have to be set with Automatically Download Updates = NO (in Program Settings) and using the scan command (step 3) i.e. you ignore the "updates available" prompt and scan the resources instead. If an update of 140 MB or so remains it is likely a software update and you should allow this to happen (or manually update from the web link).

Note: because of differences between Verbum and Logos you will have to allow any remaining (small) updates to download.