Adrian Rogers Sermons
When could we see Adrian Rogers' sermons available in Logos? I'm feeling tempted to buy them from WS as they are on sale now. I'm sure his sermons would hit the production line fast, unlike Mattoon's "commentaries/sermons.
DAL
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We've requested these before, and heard second-hand that the publisher seemed to be very willing to make them available.
We haven't heard a word from Faithlife on this.
I'd certainly want to own them.
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Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark Smith said:
We've requested these before, and heard second-hand that the publisher seemed to be very willing to make them available.
We haven't heard a word from Faithlife on this.
I'd certainly want to own them.
I hope FL makes a move fast, I'd rather own these than Johnny Mac's sermons. I'm really looking forward to having Adrian Rogers in my Logos library, along with Carson's sermon archive. 👍👌
I hope some one from FL can comment on this. I'd rather pay Logos instead of WS.
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Adrian Rogers is one of the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have been collected his sermons by podcast for the past six years. before i left the USA to go to the field I would listen to on radio.
His sermons were old but they always spoke to current issues. He was a very good Pastor.
I would also love to have them in Logos.
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I used to watch his ' Love Worth Finding ' program every Sunday when he was still alive. He was a great preacher! One of the best I have heard since I have been a Christian. I would like to have them in Logos too but I know they will be expensive. It is on WS.
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Adrian Rogers was truly a great preacher of God's Word. In addition, his ability for alliteration is a marvel. With some preachers, like me, that might have come across artificial, but it was so natural for him that it worked amazingly.
HIs confidence in the authority of God's Word was an inspiration. And he was a humble man, as well.
Yes, we need these sermons. Even a Methodist says so.
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I would be among the first in line to purchase those sermons. Adrian Rogers might be the best pulpiteer of the 20th century. In 2003, I had the opportunity to spend three days with him - along with several other young pastors. He cleared his calendar and invested three days with us. Interestingly, he did not talk at all about "how to have a big church" or "how we do it at Bellevue" but rather he exclusively talked to us about three things: being a Godly husband and father, our personal walk with Christ, and expository preaching. It was three of the best days of my life. Not a day goes by that I don't think of something said on one of those three days. The life he lived makes his words more powerful.
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Since I'd never heard of Adrian Rogers I couldn't resist:
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1) James S. Stewart (1896-1990)
2) Billy Graham (1918- )
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5) Harry Emerson Fosdick (1878-1969)
6) Campbell Morgan (1863-1945)
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9) D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones (1899-1981)
10) Clarence Macartney (1879-1957)
11) Leslie Weatherhead
12) George W. Truett
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16) E. Stanley Jones
17) Donald Grey Barnhouse
18) Ralph Sockman
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MJ, Adrian Rogers was one of the leaders of the Southern Bapist Concention (along with Charles Stanley and WA Criswell) who led the conservative resurgence. A sermon which represents why he is beloved by so many is Flawed Appetites and Fatal Attractions.
I bought his sermon archive in WordSearch and use it occasionally. I would use it more for the content, but WordSearch is so difficult to navigate that I get frustrated. His illustrations alone are worth the price.If I had them in Logos, I would read the sermons to tag the stories.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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DAL said:
I'm feeling tempted to buy them from WS as they are on sale now.
DAL, are you saying the $350 is the sale price? It's not, that's the everyday price. They were on sale last Christmas for $199.
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MJ. Smith said:
Since I'd never heard of Adrian Rogers I couldn't resist:
MJ, Adrian Rogers succeeded #13, R.G Lee at Bellvue Baptist Church when Lee died.
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David P. Moore said:DAL said:
I'm feeling tempted to buy them from WS as they are on sale now.
DAL, are you saying the $350 is the sale price? It's not, that's the everyday price. They were on sale last Christmas for $199.
$199 sale price. You have to call in to pay full price or 3 payments of $67. The sale is taking place to honor him for his birthday September 12 and it ends September 26th.
DAL
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Mark Smith said:
I'd certainly want to own them.
Me too!!!
From what I understood, there wasn't an official publisher for this resource right now. The family is actually selling this sermon archive set themselves, from what I understand. If that's correct, that's all the more reason why faithlife would want to connect with them.
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Thanks everyone for the illuminating conversation in this thread. Personally, I'd never heard of Adrian Rogers and this encouraged me to look him up on the internet! Some speakers would of course be better known in the US rather than to those of us who live elsewhere, but there is always benefit in the sharing of knowledge. Keep well Paul
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Actually, Adrian Rogers followed Dr. Ramsey Pollard, who followed Dr. R. G. Lee. Dr. Adrian Rogers led historic Bellevue Baptist for 35 years. He was a major figure in American Christianity. He was a good friend of Dr. Billy Graham, and most of the major Christian leaders of his day. His expositions of Scripture were clear, easily understood, well illustrated, and very insightful.David P. Moore said:MJ. Smith said:Since I'd never heard of Adrian Rogers I couldn't resist:
MJ, Adrian Rogers succeeded #13, R.G Lee at Bellvue Baptist Church when Lee died.
I was a young Methodist preacher in the Memphis area when Dr. Rogers was in his prime. I occasionally saw him making hospital calls. I was impressed with how humble and friendly he was despite his fame. He was the real deal. And that voice he had was marvelous - a perfect preacher voice. He was a gifted man.
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excellent preacher. I used to watch his program all the time and still do watch occasionally on youtube or elsewhere. I would love to have his collection.
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Michael Childs said:
Actually, Adrian Rogers followed Dr. Ramsey Pollard, who followed Dr. R. G. Lee.
Thanks, Michael for the correction. After I posted I had the nagging feeling I didn't have all the info. I seem to remember Rogers mentioning in one of his sermons visiting Lee as he was near death, so maybe that's where I made the connection.
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I remember hearing Dr. R. G. Lee preach on three occasions as a child. He was spellbinding and dramatic. He truly was a great communicator. Adrian Rogers had a very different style for a different time, but he had the same anointing on his preaching. He carried the mantle of Dr. Lee very well.
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As one of those outside US my introduction to Adrian Rogers was a book I bought from Vyrso on a sale. Defin well worth reading and having listened to a number of his sermons via podcast since then I'd buy the sermon archive if it became available in Logos.
Paul said:Thanks everyone for the illuminating conversation in this thread. Personally, I'd never heard of Adrian Rogers and this encouraged me to look him up on the internet! Some speakers would of course be better known in the US rather than to those of us who live elsewhere, but there is always benefit in the sharing of knowledge. Keep well Paul
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Hi all,
My name is Daniel Motley and I'm the Baptist Product Manager at Faithlife. I just wanted to drop in and let you all know that we're currently working on this project. No promises on what the future may hold, but you have been heard!
Thanks,
Daniel
Product Manager, Faithlife
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I own these in WS. They would be great to have in Logos (so I'd love to have Faithlife/Logos offer them), and while I hate to "promote" another Bible software program on Logos' territory, when they're on a good sale, I highly recommend going for them even if you have to get them outside of Logos. I have gotten immense use out of them even as a seminary student when writing academic papers. They're worth every penny to own. It's a wonderful wonderful set of sermons.
Nathan Parker
Visit my blog at http://focusingonthemarkministries.com
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[Y] Thanks, Daniel.Daniel Motley said:Hi all,
My name is Daniel Motley and I'm the Baptist Product Manager at Faithlife. I just wanted to drop in and let you all know that we're currently working on this project. No promises on what the future may hold, but you have been heard!
Thanks,
Daniel
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Daniel Motley said:
Hi all,
My name is Daniel Motley and I'm the Baptist Product Manager at Faithlife. I just wanted to drop in and let you all know that we're currently working on this project. No promises on what the future may hold, but you have been heard!
Thanks,
Daniel
By "currently working on this project" do you mean you are negotiating with the publisher or producing it under the radar to make it available on a short prepub offer sometime in the future?
Thanks!
DAL
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DAL said:
I hope FL makes a move fast, I'd rather own these than Johnny Mac's sermons.
Meeeeee tooooo brother....if for the views on Reformed Theology, if nothing else. AR was one of the most anointed preachers I've ever heard. His voice commanded such attention and response. It was unquestioned that he was an anointed vessel of God!
DAL said:I'm really looking forward to having Adrian Rogers in my Logos library, along with Carson's sermon archive. 👍👌
Meeeeee tooooo! Sure hope they make it here to Logos.
DAL said:I'd rather pay Logos instead of WS.
For me, its not an issue of who I'd rather pay; WordSearch is just soooooo very deficient when compared to Logos. I have tried and tried to work in WS...there are a lot of nice resources they offer that can't be bought (and wont ever be sold) by Logos. So I have tried to learn the WS platform. But once you've used Logos, its a very humbling experience to have to use WS, or even Bible Works or Accordance for that matter. I mean, in all fairness to them, I know they are trying their best to offer alternative Bible study option, so as not to give Logos the monopoly on the market; but I have tried them all, some extensively, and its just really sad. It's like driving a 1981 Chevette (my first car, LOL) after you have owned and toured the country in a Cadillac Escalade. The obvious smoother ride, more powerful engine, more headroom, and TON of bells and whistles all combine together to make riding in the Chevette a very humbling experience.
I do keep WS on my computer for the resources they offer (the Broadman and Holman resources, especially), but purchase everything I can in Logos if available. The same resource in Logos is MUCH higher sometimes (though not always); but, you really do get what you pay for!
Myke Harbuck
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Nathan Parker said:
I have gotten immense use out of them even as a seminary student when writing academic papers. They're worth every penny to own. It's a wonderful wonderful set of sermons.
Same here. I have them in WS for the same reasons/thoughts you have expressed here. Unfortunately, using WS is a humbling experience for me as a frequent Logos user. Logos is just sooooo much more advanced and efficient, even in the GUI.
But, at least WS has caught on to the idea of allowing the user the open of themes, so the color scheme of the GUI can at least be changed. I sure wish Logos would catch on to this simple but frequently requested feature / idea.
Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College0 -
Nathan Parker said:
I own these in WS. They would be great to have in Logos (so I'd love to have Faithlife/Logos offer them), and while I hate to "promote" another Bible software program on Logos' territory, when they're on a good sale, I highly recommend going for them even if you have to get them outside of Logos. I have gotten immense use out of them even as a seminary student when writing academic papers. They're worth every penny to own. It's a wonderful wonderful set of sermons.
I read your review in the WS website and how you use them. I'm currently "test driving" the sermons and I'm a bit disappointed in that the way they put them together, seems kind of sloppy. Some sermons have a complete outline followed by the transcript others don't, but they do say "Outline, Introduction, Conclusion" right before the the transcript. It seems to me like they could've gone over the sermons and add the outlines for all of them. Not only that, but add HEADERS to the main points in the transcripts so you can tell the "divisions" of the sermon, that way you'll know he moved from Main Point I to II or that there was a subpoint A and a subpoint B.
I hope Logos can manage to improve the quality. Other than that, Adrian Rogers insights are not in question. He's a great expositor!
DAL
Edit: The only resource I will have to get on WS, since it didn't make the cut in Logos, is the Rod Mattoon's Treasures From The Scriptures. I was really looking forward to have them in Logos, but unfortunately only a few of us were interested in it. It got stuck in prepub limbo
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DAL said:
I'm a bit disappointed in that the way they put them together, seems kind of sloppy. Some sermons have a complete outline followed by the transcript others don't, but they do say "Outline, Introduction, Conclusion" right before the the transcript. It seems to me like they could've gone over the sermons and add the outlines for all of them. Not only that, but add HEADERS to the main points in the transcripts so you can tell the "divisions" of the sermon, that way you'll know he moved from Main Point I to II or that there was a subpoint A and a subpoint B.
I hope Logos can manage to improve the quality.
DAL
I could not agree with you more. WS is a bit "sloppy." They try, they really do, but Lifeway just isn't really willing to invest resources into WS to make it what it could be. And the employees there are a but naive, as they think, seriously, that WS is a superior product to Logos (I have had that discussion so many times with one or two of their guys). Until they understand their deficiencies, I don't know how they will ever overcome them!
And its sad because they have the potential to be a good Bible study platform and provide resources that Logos probable doesn't desire to provide, or won't ever delve into. In that regard, there is room in the BS marketplace for BOTH WS and FL, esp since WS has no desire to ever tap into the academic market, the biblical languages market, the mobile ed market, etc. They simple want to provide application-level materials, such as commentaries, devotionals. and sermons, to pastors, Sunday School teachers, and church leaders.
DAL said:Other than that, Adrian Rogers insights are not in question. He's a great expositor!
DAL
Amen to the 1 millionth power!
Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
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Mattoon is on board now on my WS. They definitely gave his commentaries/sermons better treatment than Rogers. I like Mattoon and 51 volumes for $199.99 it was a good deal offered by the sales rep. It makes it look like a way better deal than Rogers considering the quality of how the resource was built.
DAL
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DAL said:
Mattoon is on board now on my WS. They definitely gave his commentaries/sermons better treatment than Rogers. I like Mattoon and 51 volumes for $199.99 it was a good deal offered by the sales rep. It makes it look like a way better deal than Rogers considering the quality of how the resource was built.
DAL
I could not agree with you more. You are exactly right.
I use Mattoon for my daily devotions a lot of days; I really like his writings. I mean, I enjoy reading academic stuff, and I enjoy being pushed and challenged by it; but sometimes reading stuff like Mattoon is so refreshing and so rich In simplicity and edification.
I was glad when I discovered his work. I had never heard of him before I saw his works in wordsearch.
Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
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Myke Harbuck said:DAL said:
Mattoon is on board now on my WS. They definitely gave his commentaries/sermons better treatment than Rogers. I like Mattoon and 51 volumes for $199.99 it was a good deal offered by the sales rep. It makes it look like a way better deal than Rogers considering the quality of how the resource was built.
DAL
I could not agree with you more. You are exactly right.
I use Mattoon for my daily devotions a lot of days; I really like his writings. I mean, I enjoy reading academic stuff, and I enjoy being pushed and challenged by it; but sometimes reading stuff like Mattoon is so refreshing and so rich In simplicity and edification.
I was glad when I discovered his work. I had never heard of him before I saw his works in wordsearch.
Hopefully Logos can bring him back and lower the prepub price, because it was way to expensive and the tagging would not be that sophisticated; like John Butler's works. Mattoon has helped me in the pass for practical group studies and his alliteration is one of the best too 👍
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I agree; Mattoon's alliteration is far superior to that of Butler. Butler's alliteration is almost nonsensical at times. A lot of the words don't make sense, or, most of the time, you can just tell that he's went way overboard in trying to create an alliteration that doesn't exist, or he's just got way too many alliteration's for a particular passage. A lot of times his alliteration's have alliterations. :-) LOL
Myke Harbuck
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Myke Harbuck said:
I agree; Mattoon's alliteration is far superior to that of Butler. Butler's alliteration is almost nonsensical at times. A lot of the words don't make sense, or, most of the time, you can just tell that he's went way overboard in trying to create an alliteration that doesn't exist, or he's just got way too many alliteration's for a particular passage. A lot of times his alliteration's have alliterations. :-) LOL
Couldn't agree more, especially on "the perspiration" of everything he writes LOL:
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DAL said:
Couldn't agree more, especially on "the perspiration" of everything he writes LOL:
that's hilarious. I had not seen that one before. Could you imagine trying to preach that material. LOL
Myke Harbuck
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Myke Harbuck said:Nathan Parker said:
I have gotten immense use out of them even as a seminary student when writing academic papers. They're worth every penny to own. It's a wonderful wonderful set of sermons.
Same here. I have them in WS for the same reasons/thoughts you have expressed here. Unfortunately, using WS is a humbling experience for me as a frequent Logos user. Logos is just sooooo much more advanced and efficient, even in the GUI.
But, at least WS has caught on to the idea of allowing the user the open of themes, so the color scheme of the GUI can at least be changed. I sure wish Logos would catch on to this simple but frequently requested feature / idea.
Very true. I've gotten a strategy down on how I use them (it's on the WS blog when I made a guest post), but I am far more comfortable with using Logos than anything else. I can access them in WS, but Logos would be a better experience. With 9,000 books in Logos and years of Logos experience, it's the program I'm far more comfortable in.
I'm glad WS finally did add GUI theming to the program in a previous build (as anyone who knows my past history with WS would know why) :-) I think it was taken away again with v11 though and returned to a stock interface.
Nathan Parker
Visit my blog at http://focusingonthemarkministries.com
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DAL said:Nathan Parker said:
I own these in WS. They would be great to have in Logos (so I'd love to have Faithlife/Logos offer them), and while I hate to "promote" another Bible software program on Logos' territory, when they're on a good sale, I highly recommend going for them even if you have to get them outside of Logos. I have gotten immense use out of them even as a seminary student when writing academic papers. They're worth every penny to own. It's a wonderful wonderful set of sermons.
I read your review in the WS website and how you use them. I'm currently "test driving" the sermons and I'm a bit disappointed in that the way they put them together, seems kind of sloppy. Some sermons have a complete outline followed by the transcript others don't, but they do say "Outline, Introduction, Conclusion" right before the the transcript. It seems to me like they could've gone over the sermons and add the outlines for all of them. Not only that, but add HEADERS to the main points in the transcripts so you can tell the "divisions" of the sermon, that way you'll know he moved from Main Point I to II or that there was a subpoint A and a subpoint B.
I hope Logos can manage to improve the quality. Other than that, Adrian Rogers insights are not in question. He's a great expositor!
DAL
Edit: The only resource I will have to get on WS, since it didn't make the cut in Logos, is the Rod Mattoon's Treasures From The Scriptures. I was really looking forward to have them in Logos, but unfortunately only a few of us were interested in it. It got stuck in prepub limbo
Hopefully, that won't happen to Adrian Rogers Sermons.I have noticed this as well, and if all goes well about getting these in Logos, I hope Logos will do better. Some of them are "cleanly" outlined and some are more "sloppy". I was reading some this week where I had to wade through the transcripts to determine his outline, and I was a little disappointed in that. It's hind of hit and miss with how they developed them, something I hope Logos can dramatically improve on (Passage Guide integration would also be nice).
It would be nice if they can include the Pastor's Training Videos as well. I managed to get those when WS had them on the limited offer. Those are valuable videos.
Nathan Parker
Visit my blog at http://focusingonthemarkministries.com
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Myke Harbuck said:DAL said:
I'm a bit disappointed in that the way they put them together, seems kind of sloppy. Some sermons have a complete outline followed by the transcript others don't, but they do say "Outline, Introduction, Conclusion" right before the the transcript. It seems to me like they could've gone over the sermons and add the outlines for all of them. Not only that, but add HEADERS to the main points in the transcripts so you can tell the "divisions" of the sermon, that way you'll know he moved from Main Point I to II or that there was a subpoint A and a subpoint B.
I hope Logos can manage to improve the quality.
DAL
I could not agree with you more. WS is a bit "sloppy." They try, they really do, but Lifeway just isn't really willing to invest resources into WS to make it what it could be. And the employees there are a but naive, as they think, seriously, that WS is a superior product to Logos (I have had that discussion so many times with one or two of their guys). Until they understand their deficiencies, I don't know how they will ever overcome them!
And its sad because they have the potential to be a good Bible study platform and provide resources that Logos probable doesn't desire to provide, or won't ever delve into. In that regard, there is room in the BS marketplace for BOTH WS and FL, esp since WS has no desire to ever tap into the academic market, the biblical languages market, the mobile ed market, etc. They simple want to provide application-level materials, such as commentaries, devotionals. and sermons, to pastors, Sunday School teachers, and church leaders.
DAL said:Other than that, Adrian Rogers insights are not in question. He's a great expositor!
DAL
Amen to the 1 millionth power!
I agree. WS has some excellent content that's hard to get at times, but the engine holds it back. I really wish Lifeway would assign someone to take the platform and give it the dramatic overhaul it needs, or some other Bible software company would buy them out and merge their library content into a better engine.
But true, Rogers is a brilliant expositor! One of the Lord's gifts to us!
Nathan Parker
Visit my blog at http://focusingonthemarkministries.com
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Nathan's (helpful) hint to make them usable in Wordsearch is almost an ad for Faithlife's handling of sermons. This is so convoluted: http://blog.wordsearchbible.com/2015/04/07/guest-tip-adrian-rogers-seminary/#.V9oXhZgrKM8
I ordered the DVDs from the Pastor Training Institute. I had to call because their website is such a mess and had a long, delightful conversation with Dr. Rogers' son. That is a Mobile Ed course I could get behind!
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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I really hate to start admitting this, but now I'm seeing the importance of having a secondary Bible software (maybe even a third for some freebies).
I just took the plunge on the Bible Speaks Today both OT and NT all for only $120 on sale! Unfortunately, for just a few tags Logos version of the OT is too expensive for me
with my other software the quality is just as good tagging wise for what I need it. OT is a nice set! I'm going to enjoy as much as the NT 👍DAL
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DAL said:
I really hate to start admitting this, but now I'm seeing the importance of having a secondary Bible software (maybe even a third for some freebies).
I just took the plunge on the Bible Speaks Today both OT and NT all for only $120 on sale! Unfortunately, for just a few tags Logos version of the OT is too expensive for me
with my other software the quality is just as good tagging wise for what I need it. OT is a nice set! I'm going to enjoy as much as the NT 👍DAL
I hate to admit the same thing. Up until a year or so ago, I would not buy resources from anyone but Logos. But when another company put Bonhoeffer's works on sale for about $400 less than Logos sells them, I reconsidered. While I would prefer them tagged and in my Logos library, I do not prefer it $400 worth. Especially since I mostly just want to read and occasionally search them.
I realize that was a special sale, and not their regular price. Also, I have bought nothing else from that Bible software company, and I would still pay more to have a resource in Logos. Just not $400 more, or $300 more for that matter.
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I really hate to admit this, but I returned the Adrian Rogers Legacy Collection and have decided to wait for the Logos version of it. I just couldn't stand how sloppy it was put together in WS. The Adrian Rogers foundation has updated the Legacy Collection to now include new sermons and has made sure to outline all the manuscripts properly. So I'm hoping Logos gets a hold of this "Updated version" so they can do a better job when and if they do offer this great resource. If they do, I'm really looking forward to add it to my sermon archive collection!
I did go for other cool resources that were done way better than the Adrian Rogers Legacy Collection. I went for Rod Mattoon's "commentaries," The Sermon Notebook (available free online but not as searchable), The Teacher's Outline and Study Bible (It has been lingering in Logos Prepub forever), Expository Preaching Through the Old Testament and the Tyndale Handbook of Bible Maps and Charts (which I still don't get why it's been so many years and it's still not available in Logos). All these awesome great resources for virtually the same sale price as the Adrian Rogers Legacy Collection - which means I got more bang for my bucks!
Blessings!
DAL
Ps. I love Adrian Rogers, great content, but the quality of the product was just plain sloppy and unacceptable for the price they're selling it for.
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DAL said:
I really hate to admit this, but I returned the Adrian Rogers Legacy Collection and have decided to wait for the Logos version of it. I just couldn't stand how sloppy it was put together in WS.
I could not agree with you more Dal. I wish I had return mine because I don't use it in wordsearch and really feel like I wasted that money. I know that logos will do a much much better job at producing this resource, if they ever do. I sure hope they do. I would pay for it again just to have it in logos. While I appreciate the good prices of the wordsearch products, they are just far far inferior to logos products. The entire WS framework needs an overhaul, on top of many other things. It's just not a very intuitive framework for Bible study, especially for anything other than reading a book (i.e.: morphological searches, in-depth searches, research ).
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David P. Moore said:
Thank you! A little pricey but since they have updated the manuscripts to include full outlines i'm sure it's going to be better quality than the competition. I definitely don't mind paying for something that has better quality. My pre-pub has been place!
Let's just hope that it doesn't get stuck in prepub limbo.
DAL
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Does anyone know if these are the updated sermons with full outlines? I was reading the product pages but didn't see where it mentioned it.
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Wow! I'm in.
And hopefully, they won't be sloppy like the version from the other vendor.
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Adrian Rogers is one of the best, but I am shocked at the price!
I will not be buying this. Price is far too exorbitant.
But I am happy to see that it is finally in prepub.
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Kenute P. Curry said:
Adrian Rogers is one of the best, but I am shocked at the price!
I will not be buying this. Price is far too exorbitant.
But I am happy to see that it is finally in prepub.
WS's price is higher than Logos Prepub. I'm sure Logos will have the updated manuscripts with full outlines since this seems to be a recent contract/deal. WS is sloppy for their high price on these sermons; and I mean sloppy, but it's probably due to them not having the updated manuscripts. Even then, the price seems to be a publisher's thing on this one, since they'll even sell the disk with PDF's for over $300.
DAL
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Just placed my pre-order. In my opinion, these will be worth every single penny. Now if only W.A. Criswell would become a Logos product. I know all of them are available for free online but to have them in Logos would be outstanding.
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