Logos on eInk/eReader Device

Hello, all.

The Faithlife Mobile team wanted to share something with you that you might find interesting. We know that many of you have expressed interest in having Logos on your e-reader or e-Ink device. We think we've found a good option for those of you who prefer reading in that format-- the Icarus e-reader.

We made a quick video to show you some of the functionality-- take a look if you're interested. Lastly, here's a link to the device itself.

Let us know what you think!

*Please note that we're not currently supporting this in a official capacity-- we're just trying to gauge general interest.

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JT (alabama24)

*Please note that we're not currently supporting this in a official capacity-- we're just trying to gauge general interest.

I don't understand what you are asking or saying. Since it is an android device, don't you "officially support" it? If not, why not? What do you mean "gauge general interest?" Are you thinking about selling it?

Personally, I think my eInk paperwhite provides the best experience for simple reading. I would love to have the ability to create highlights and have them sync. Obviously on an eInk device, highlights would be a bit more difficult to distinguish between different highlighter styles... I would likely still use my iPad for studying or research reading.

Eric Ruhnow

Honestly, I would LOVE to have something like this. My eyesight is starting to have a LOT of problems with glossy screens, so I'm having a hard time locating a good portable option for my Logos library (especially since the Send to Kindle was taken away).

My one concern would be the limitations of Android 4.2 on the device. How long would the device's OS remain compatible with the Logos Android app's feature roadmap?

Bruce Dunning

I would love to have the ability to create highlights and have them sync. Obviously on an eInk device, highlights would be a bit more difficult to distinguish between different highlighter styles... I would likely still use my iPad for studying or research reading.

This is what I have been waiting for. Until an e-ink device is able to have highlights and sync I'm personally not that interested.

I not holding my breath but I'm still dreaming on having the functionality of my iPad with e-ink.

Jan Krohn

My one concern would be the limitations of Android 4.2 on the device. How long would the device's OS remain compatible with the Logos Android app's feature roadmap?

That's my big concern as well. I still have an Android 2.3 reader device from Onyx, so I'm stuck on an old version of the app.

I really don't mind about new app features, but what's most annoying is the fact, that new resources are no longer compatible with the old app version.

(Want Android 6.0 eInk reader...)

Kevin Byford (Faithlife)

Since it is an android device, don't you "officially support" it? If not, why not? What do you mean "gauge general interest?" Are you thinking about selling it?

Many E-Ink devices run Android but if our apps can't be installed on them from Google Play or Amazon, they are not supported (this device can install our apps from Google Play - one of the very few). Also, rooted Android devices, side loaded apps, outdated Android versions, etc. are not supported. Videos and Mobile Ed media are not supported (E-Ink device hardware is too slow to play them).

That said, I believe the intent here is to gauge whether or not it would be worth adding possible support (given enough interest) for certain things that might make the E-Ink experience a little better, like hardware navigation button support, better contrast, animation and progress indicator settings, etc. If there isn't enough interest it wouldn't be worth the time. And no, we're not selling them.

JT (alabama24)

thanks Kevin

Francis

I believe the intent here is to gauge whether or not it would be worth adding possible support (given enough interest) for certain things that might make the E-Ink experience a little better, like hardware navigation button support, better contrast, animation and progress indicator settings, etc.

Thank you for looking into this.

A video is nice but it is not all that clear what is shown through it. It looks like a normal mobile app, but with perhaps better contrast? If there are certain specific things we are supposed to notice, it would be good to point them out more specifically. Also, it should be kept in mind that a video of a device display is never as crisp as the device itself. So it is difficult to see how nicely text and icons are display (knowing that all along the issue has been one of contrast, sharpness, and translating colour-dependent elements into a workable e-ink alternative).

I assume also that while the Icarus has the advantage of allowing installation, the e-ink version (if one is indeed developed and supported) would work on any e-ink android device on which the apk can be installed?

JT (alabama24)

A video is nice but it is not all that clear what is shown through it. It looks like a normal mobile app, but with perhaps better contrast?

I assume it is simply the stock android app. I think what they are "showing" is simply the device running the current mobile app.

Brother Mark

we're just trying to gauge general interest.

Yep, I'm interested.

Stephen Steele

The hardware looks sluggish - bring back Send to Kindle!

Brad Fry

The hardware looks sluggish - bring back Send to Kindle!

Amen!!

Mark

we're just trying to gauge general interest.

Yep, I'm interested.

Yes I am interested. For now, the only hope I have is to get a surface pro 5 which will give full function ability. And I save my eyes by dimming the screen and using new technology that make reading easier.

Jesse Blevins

I would prefer to bring back the send to kindle feature. That Feature had a great influence on my purchase of the kindle paper white.

Steve Farson

Yes... I terribly miss the "Send to Kindle" feature. My guess is the reason lies with Amazon, not Faithlife.

Kevin Byford (Faithlife)

The hardware looks sluggish - bring back Send to Kindle!

It is unfortunate that Amazon discontinued Send to Kindle (see http://goodereader.com/blog/e-book-news/amazon-disables-send-to-kindle-on-rival-bookstores , http://shop.oreilly.com/category/customer-service/kindle.do , and http://the-digital-reader.com/2015/06/15/baen-books-reveals-amazons-byzantine-policies-on-kindle-email-delivery/ ).

This thread isn't about Send to Kindle but about running the full Logos App on an E-Ink device, and whether or not there is enough customer interest for us to potentially improve the experience. Please help us keep this thread on topic.

Please post any Send to Kindle issues to https://community.logos.com/forums/t/123765.aspx .

Mark

This thread isn't about Send to Kindle but about running the full Logos App on an E-Ink device, and whether or not there is enough customer interest for us to potentially improve the experience.

I would think there is a better way to measure whether there is enough interest in improving the Logos App on an E ink device than going to a forum thread. Why not send your user base an email with a link to a basic, brief survey that measures whether there is interest or not?

Benny

Interested!

Kevin Maples

I'm extremely interested. e-Ink is so much easier on the eyes. I love my Paperwhite, but can't sync highlights etc... I'd be willing to invest in a e-Ink device if I could get Logos functionality like my iPad.

Rod Bergen

Let us know what you think!

I would buy an eInk reader that ran Logos. I really miss the send to Kindle feature because I prefer to read Logos documents on an eInk reader. iPads, phones and computers are too hard on the eyes to read for any length of time.

Thanks for looking into this!

Jacob Hantla

Daniel, thank you for posting this. I'm definitely interested.

Is this the same device: https://smile.amazon.com/ICARUS-Illumina-e-reader-screen-Android/dp/B00LN4XJ28/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481502055&sr=8-1&keywords=icarus+ereader

Jacob Hantla

I just bought it. Anybody have any experience or feedback on highlights with this?

id love logos to make a simple version of reader for slow eink devices

Paulo Bechara

is it possible to root the c67ml carta 2 with a mac?

Paulo Bechara

does it accept 128gb sd card? If not, what is the maximum capacity?

thanks

Donnie Vick

Me too!

Mark Nolette

does it accept 128gb sd card? If not, what is the maximum capacity?

thanks

The manual says that the C67 can accept a 32 GB sd card. I have tried a 64 GB card and it worked with no problems. I don't know about a 128 GB card.

As far as rooting with a Mac goes, I don't know. I have a Mac, but also run Windows in VMWare Fusion on my Mac - so I use Windows for stuff like this because most rooting procedures are (unfortunately) designed for Windows or Linux. There are apk files like Root Master or Kingo Root that you can install on the C67 and see if they will root the device. Sometimes they work, sometimes not. But going that route comes with a slight risk of getting malware or some other app installed as well. I actually used Root Master to root my C67 and it worked fine. The copy I had didn't have malware in it. I'll see if I still have it. You can also check with the Onyx Boox forum at mobileread.com. People there can give you some helpful tips.

Jacob Hantla

Hello, all.

The Faithlife Mobile team wanted to share something with you that you might find interesting. We know that many of you have expressed interest in having Logos on your e-reader or e-Ink device. We think we've found a good option for those of you who prefer reading in that format-- the Icarus e-reader.

We made a quick video to show you some of the functionality-- take a look if you're interested. Lastly, here's a link to the device itself.

Let us know what you think!

*Please note that we're not currently supporting this in a official capacity-- we're just trying to gauge general interest.

I bought the Icarus and Logos Bible doesn't appear on the built-in app store, Google Play, or Amazon Appstore. How did you install it?

Mark Barnes

I bought the Icarus and Logos Bible doesn't appear on the built-in app store, Google Play, or Amazon Appstore. How did you install it?

Try this: https://apkpure.com/store/apps/details?id=com.logos.androidlogos

Jacob Hantla

Hello, all.

The Faithlife Mobile team wanted to share something with you that you might find interesting. We know that many of you have expressed interest in having Logos on your e-reader or e-Ink device. We think we've found a good option for those of you who prefer reading in that format-- the Icarus e-reader.

We made a quick video to show you some of the functionality-- take a look if you're interested. Lastly, here's a link to the device itself.

Let us know what you think!

*Please note that we're not currently supporting this in a official capacity-- we're just trying to gauge general interest.

I bought the Icarus and Logos Bible doesn't appear on the built-in app store, Google Play, or Amazon Appstore. How did you install it?

I direct downloaded from http://downloads.logos.com/Android/Logos/stable/Logos-287.apk.

Is there a better way?

Please please please get us a basic reader version of Logos for these eink products. There is really a market for this, and to make an reader for e-ink hardware only increases the value of your resources.

Jacob Hantla

I bought the Icarus and Logos Bible doesn't appear on the built-in app store, Google Play, or Amazon Appstore. How did you install it?

Try this: https://apkpure.com/store/apps/details?id=com.logos.androidlogos

Thanks Mark. That worked great and the app works. It's a bit sluggish and I wish that the page-turn controls would work. But it is good to be able to have my whole library on eink and to be able to markup my books directly in my Logos library

Ramy Gabra

So just to confirm, is version 5.6.2 is highest version that can be installed on Android 4.2.2

Mark Nolette

Hi

So just to confirm, is version 5.6.2 is highest version that can be installed on Android 4.2.2

I have 5.12.4 on my Boyue T63 with Android 4.2.2. Everything still works!

David Ehrlich

Was wondering if this tread is still active and if there are any new updates for E-Ink. My Android Tab A is dying and would love to move to e ink.

Mark Nolette

Was wondering if this tread is still active and if there are any new updates for E-Ink. My Android Tab A is dying and would love to move to e ink.

There are several E-Ink related threads elsewhere on this forum, especially in the Logos 9 Mobile section. There have also been a number of updates to E-Ink devices since this thread. Android E-Ink devices are available in sizes ranging from a six inch to a thirteen inch display. Prices also vary widely with display size! As an example, here you can find the current product options offered by Boox. Likebook (aka Boyue) also has several offerings. It's a matter of what size is comfortable for you and what your budget is!

Ryan Lanning

I am loving my Onyx Poke 2 which runs a newer version of Android and works with Logos. They came out with a newer Poke e-readers as well.