If you had to pick between the two not based on the quantity but rather the quality of the work what would you get??
http://www.logos.com/products/details/1756
or
http://www.logos.com/products/details/2067
Geisler - unless you want something on theology. Geisler's Theology would be preferred, but it is not included in this collection.
Both are quality works. I wouldn't base my decision on quantity. It boils down to which type of resource you feel more need for.
Grudem is a good entry level systematic theology. If you don't have a good ystematic theology and feel a need for one he is a good choice.
The Geisler collection covers a good bit of ground. If you feel the need for something in the area of apologetics I think you'll be glad you bought it.
Take your pick based on what you already own and what you feel more of a need for.
I have a print copy of Grudems systematic theology. I just really want it on my computer to take advantage of the saturation of scripture in each page. Im not a huge Geisler fan but i have read a little of his work... I dont really need either but i got a gift card and need to use it so i boiled it down to these books because they are of interest and in the same price range. I guess im just looking for feed back from others who have the books.
Thanks for responding!
Geisler's apologetics is only good if you agree with his method(I do not, I am a presuppositionalist). I would go with Grudem no question.
I have some experience with both but definitely more with Grudem (I've read his entire systematic theology). In my opinion Grudem's is superior in quality of handling a multitude of views. Grudem's Systematic Theology is accessible to somebody with no knowledge of systematic theology and I think is a valuable resource no matter how seasoned one is. Geisler's quality is more varied depending on the topic he covers. I do not agree with Grudem 100% of the time, but even where we disagree pretty dramatically I gain much from the way in which he handles the subject as his arguments try to stay as Biblically grounded as possible, where Geisler wanders off into philosophy to help ground conclusions more than I'm comfortable at times. Both are quality systematics, but I would definitely go with Grudem if you had to pick 1.
While I like Grudem, I enjoy Giesler. He is more philosophical. The way he sets up his systematic theology far surpasses any systematic theology I read.
He gives the historical, theological and biblical defenses for certain topics. Of course I am bias seeing as I am a moderate calvinist not a calvinist.
I have both and much prefer Grudem, especially if it is systematic theology you're after. I agree with pretty much all that Jacob said.
I have both. I agree with Bill & Jacob on Grudem.
Ted.
Of course I am bias seeing as I am a moderate calvinist not a calvinist.
You have been reading Geisler i see[;)]. Hmmm... moderate calvinist not a calvinist[:P] Chosen but free[:)].
Ted
thanks for all the input!
Another vote for Grudem.
I have the Geisler. It's fine for what it does, but it's not something I use often. Given that you already have and like a print copy of Grudem, my guess is that having it accessible in Logos would be more useful for you.
I'd recommend Geisler's Systematic Theology. I've used Grudem's mostly, but after seeing Geisler's it is more thorough and deals with each doctrine in various ways, biblical, church fathers thoughts, reformation thoughts, various views, etc.
http://www.logos.com/products/details/3597
f you had to pick between the two not based on the quantity but rather the quality of the work what would you get??
Fortunately, I did not have to choose, but if I had to choose, I would choose Geisler.
Of course I am bias seeing as I am a moderate calvinist not a calvinist. You have been reading Geisler i see. Hmmm... moderate calvinist not a calvinist Chosen but free. Ted
You have been reading Geisler i see. Hmmm... moderate calvinist not a calvinist Chosen but free.
I would like to see chosen but free in logos format. Unfortunately, I have never been able to get through it. I am able to work my way throught his systematic theology books though. I like the fact he gives all perspectives on a subject. Of course he gives you his opinion, and why. It is even set up with responses kida like Thomas Aquianas.
Grace & Peace.
Blair
John, I don't have Grudem's but I have information on the Geisler product I would like to share with you. If you would like to contact me e-mail me at kwshawver (at) sbcglobal (dot) net. I have Geisler's work and do appreciate it.
Geisler's work is much more indepth, and I perfer having the extra depth, but Grudem is good for what it does handle. Of course the point of view that you hold on different topics will also change your attitude towards either of these theology books.
In Christ,
Jim
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John sorry haven't seen the e-mail yet?
I will try again[:D]
you can email me at John.M.Kight@gmail.com if you dont receive this one
Thank again my friend!
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