Future support of Logos

Hi, the following is an email that I have sent to Logos CS as well as a salesman who has contacted me before. Unfortunately its now more than 3 weeks since I've sent the email and surprisingly no one for the company has come back to me with some form of answer.

Thus I'm repeating my question below and hope to see if there is anyone in the Logos community who may share my concerns and may be able to throw some light on the issue. Thank you.

The question is:

I’m a heavy user of Logos, a long time customer of Logos that dates back to the Libronix days, and have made substantial investment in the product.

As your company’s product strategy continues to develop and evolve, it comes to a point that I would like to seek clarification on how it may affect my own upgrade plan in future with Logos.

Specifically your company now seems to adopt to a different product strategy when it comes to your new, online cloud product (Logos Now) vs. the original “offline” product (Logos 6 or 7). For example, the “Bible Browser” feature seems to be only available on the new product but not the offline one. Thus my question is that is Logos going to enhance the Now product from now on and pretty much leaves the offline one stays at where its now?

As a customer that already put in a lot of money to acquire upgrades and books, etc., I need to have a clear statement of direction from Logos on the future of the offline product, or does it have a future at all, when Logos only or predominately invest in enhancing the new NOW cloud product?

Much appreciates your comment on the above so that I could better prepare myself as I intend to stay on with Logos in the coming years.

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Graham Criddle

online cloud product (Logos Now) vs. the original “offline” product (Logos 6 or 7)

Logos Now isn't a cloud product - although some of the features it includes do require an Internet connection.

It does provide, among other things, access to all of the Logos 7 features on a subscription basis as well as early access to Logos 8 features as they become available.

For example, the “Bible Browser” feature seems to be only available on the new product but not the offline one.

It is true that the Bible Browser requires an online connection but I wouldn't position Logos Now as "online" and Logos 7 as "offline". Logos 7 is still the "core product" with Logos Now providing access to all its features, some of which are online

One of the key things about Logos Now is that it's a subscription / membership model - and Bob Pritchett talks about that and the intention to continue supporting customers who want to own everything at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/129552/843706.aspx#843706

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Thus my question is that is Logos going to enhance the Now product from now on and pretty much leaves the offline one stays at where its now?

Logos Now Timeline => https://www.logos.com/now-timeline shows Now features, datasets, and interactives added to Logos 6 prior to Logos 7 launch. Many of the Now additions work fine offline in 6 and 7. Logos wiki => Online Only has Logos 6 and Logos 7 items that require online access: e.g. Bible Browser and Logos Web App. Forum => Logos Desktop Beta includes threads about Morph Query Builder that is currently scheduled for future 7.2 release, which will be usable offline.

Logos Cloud => https://logoscloud.com is subscription access to resources that can be used online (includes Logos Web App) and offline (e.g. desktop Logos 7).

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DMB

John, contra their assurances, Logos uses an email geneza, to which emails are sent and never seen. Joking.

Maybe you'll get an answer here. Though they've answered before:

- Key words: 'foreseeable future' ... the desktop will be supported. Of course, foreseeable can be anything ... they're humans.

- Logos car crash: the CEO says someone would pick up the pieces, the customer base is so large. I think maybe a consortium of Dave, the Marks, and Graham. Or Zondervan would take it over, just guessing.

I suspect the example you used is the more cogent one ... great features will be internet only (eg Bible Browser). Great features need a decent server. And they're running out of desktop features that many want .... my observation.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/856947#Comment_856947

The original poster shouldn't think of Logos Now as the death knell of the offline/desktop platform, but the pipeline that transports more capabilities to the desktop, over time.

I suspect the example you used is the more cogent one ... great features will be internet only (eg Bible Browser). Great features need a decent server.

Due to limitations, but I expect as desktop hardware continues to evolve, that the once complex features can move from the server to the client. The mobile platform will also gain more desktop features.

And they're running out of desktop features that many want

There will always be new discoveries and innovative new approaches that make their way from academia and research/development into the program.

There are some incredibly gifted people (inside and outside of FL) working with bible data who have modeled different aspects of the data in very intriguing ways. I've seen some stunning visualizations/representations which expand what we can see and do, even with existing tools such as a timeline, atlas, or concordance.

I don't merely anticipate new tools still being developed for the desktop, but see existing desktop tools being improved to offer more capabilities within that tool.

Logos still has an exciting future, regardless of how the features are hosted.