How to find references to a selected book from all other books in my library?

Veli Voipio
Veli Voipio MVP Posts: 2,082
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Today I received the Jerome’s Commentary on Daniel.

Now, if I want to see all the references to this book in all other resources in my library, is there a way to do that?

I can find references from a resource to the other resources, but I just wonder is it possible to find the references in the other way with a reasonable effort?

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  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭

    I usually just do a full text search for the title.  If the title is a common one, then I also search for the author near it. Depending on how an author cites, it may just give hits in a resource's bibliography, but at least I know that a citation is probably there somewhere.

    This search gives good results for me, though I suspect a few may slip through:

    "Jerome’s Commentary on Daniel" OR  (Jerome WITHIN 1 words "Commentary on Daniel")

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • Fr Devin Roza
    Fr Devin Roza MVP Posts: 2,425

    The typical tool you would use for this is the Cited By tool. It is designed to look through your Library to find references to wherever you happen to be, and works well with authors that have datatypes that are often cited, such as the Summa Theologica, Church Fathers, etc.

    Many of the Church Father's works have datatype references that are specific to them (e.g. search your Library for <JustinMartyr Justin Martyr, First Apology>).

    If that is the case with this commentary, you should be able to get the Cited By tool to work with it, or just search for that reference. If not, you'll be stuck with more basic searches - things like Jerome NEAR Daniel. 

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭

    BTW, the WITHIN operator doesn't seem to work correctly with footnotes:

    For example, I found that "Jerome's" WITHIN 1 words "Commentary on Daniel" doesn't give footnote hits, whereas "Jerome's" WITHIN 0 words "Commentary on Daniel" does give footnote hits:

    So it's probably best to do both types of matches.  This gives the most hits for me:

    "Jerome’s Commentary on Daniel"  OR  (Jerome WITHIN 1 words "Commentary on Daniel") OR (Jerome WITHIN 0 words "Commentary on Daniel")

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • Veli Voipio
    Veli Voipio MVP Posts: 2,082

    I have tried to use Cited By tool earlier and also tried now, but it finds only references to the Bible verses . It refuses to take JCD into the search box.

    Gold package, and original language material and ancient text material, SIL and UBS books, discourse Hebrew OT and Greek NT. PC with Windows 11

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭

    I have tried to use Cited By tool earlier and also tried now, but it finds only references to the Bible verses . It refuses to take JCD into the search box.

    Usually the best way to find a citation format is to right click in the resource, select the reference on the right, and the select Cited-By on the left:

    This gives a Cited By window.  I then removed the reference numbers to only refer to the whole book:

    Looks like the self-references in that book are the only tagged references found in my library.  Hence the need for the full text search.

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • Veli Voipio
    Veli Voipio MVP Posts: 2,082

    Ok, now I got how it works! Thanks Todd, and also thanks to Devin!

    I wish that FL will improve this tool some day, 

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  • Veli Voipio
    Veli Voipio MVP Posts: 2,082

    One more thing that I found: the cited by tool suggestion list puts the best match to the bottom. The top one is automatically selected, unless I intentionally select the correct one (the botton one, seen here as selected)

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