RC-2 going the wrong direction with layout switching
Attached is the log file showing how switching from a 7 pane, 44 panel layout to a 7 pane 50 panel went under RC-2.
Unfortunately this switchover took 8 minutes and 45 second to accomplish. There was absolutely no indication anything was happening for the first 5 minutes and 5 seconds. Look in the log file at about 22:10:00, that's when I clicked on the layout I wanted to switch to. There are errors in the log file, but even without these switching to this layout is unacceptably slow. What in the world takes so long to accomplish?
I will time going back to the 7 pane, 44 panel layout and post the results of that shortly.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Thanks I have submitted your logs to development.
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Switched as indicated above. Time required: 5 min, 22 seconds. This si the same time I noted under RC-1 for switching between the same two layouts.
There are a few errors noted in the log file. Switch began about 22:26:30. Ended about 22:31:52.
Question: why are all my collections rebuilt when I switch layouts? That seems to be taking a sizable amount of time. Changing layouts doesn't affect collections. Why are they being rebuilt?
All in all this is a poor experience. I don't switch layouts often, but waiting 5 to almost 9 minutes to accomplish this seems crazy.
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Bridgeport, CT USA
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Collections are rebuilt constantly when running the app. I've often suggested they should be cached.
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Mark A. Smith said:
Switched as indicated above. Time required: 5 min, 22 seconds. This si the same time I noted under RC-1 for switching between the same two layouts.
There are a few errors noted in the log file. Switch began about 22:26:30. Ended about 22:31:52.
Question: why are all my collections rebuilt when I switch layouts? That seems to be taking a sizable amount of time. Changing layouts doesn't affect collections. Why are they being rebuilt?
All in all this is a poor experience. I don't switch layouts often, but waiting 5 to almost 9 minutes to accomplish this seems crazy.
Good question - will get back to you soon.
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Mark Barnes said:
Collections are rebuilt constantly when running the app. I've often suggested they should be cached.
Agreed. The same thing happens on start-up. Why not cache the collections in a database file on the hard drive? I'd think that there would be a way for Logos to set a flag somewhere to indicate if new metadata or a new resource had been downloaded since the last running of Logos so it might know to recheck the collections for dynamic updates. Otherwise leave them alone and save a bunch of time on start-up and throughout the progarm.
Pretty please?
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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I second this....we need to minimize redundant work inside Logos 4....
Robert Pavich
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Mark A. Smith said:
Agreed. The same thing happens on start-up. Why not cache the collections in a database file on the hard drive? I'd think that there would be a way for Logos to set a flag somewhere to indicate if new metadata or a new resource had been downloaded since the last running of Logos so it might know to recheck the collections for dynamic updates. Otherwise leave them alone and save a bunch of time on start-up and throughout the progarm.
Pretty please?
[Y] Sound like this could be a significant optimization.
Prov. 15:23
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Mark A. Smith said:
Why not cache the collections in a database file on the hard drive?
I don't want to sound smug... "but", [:S]
Wouldn't this have been an obvious thing to build-in from the start? And not just for the collections. I could understand the need to exclude items of a volatile nature (-things assumed to change often) but “infrequent” items… hum!
I must be missing something the developers had already identified as problematic in the framework… right? [*-)]
Nevertheless... I saw the video Mark B put together with the 4.0b changes.... Looking good Mista' Ka' ter. <-- That will put a date label on ya
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It's my view that this hasn't been done because:
- Some of us are using dynamic collections far more than Logos anticipated.
- The new parallel resource set uses collections very heavily, and wasn't part of the design when they originally conceived it.
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Mark Barnes said:
I've often suggested they should be cached.
Definitely a great idea Mark [Y][Y][I]. I am all for it as I have plenty of collections and alsways looking to find ways to group similar items together. I hadn't looked at the log files for a long time so I hadn't even thought of that as an issue. Hmmm, need to pay closer attention to that.
In Christ,
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Mark Barnes said:
It's my view that this hasn't been done because:
- Some of us are using dynamic collections far more than Logos anticipated.
- The new parallel resource set uses collections very heavily, and wasn't part of the design when they originally conceived it.
See.. I had totally forgot about the dynamic collections or the new feature functionally in relationship to a cache... still it would seem feasable.
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Anthony Hamlin said:
I had totally forgot about the dynamic collections or the new feature functionally in relationship to a cache
That dynamism only matters when there is a chance that a collection needs to be updated. Certainly not between switching layouts. Perhaps if new metadata or new or updated resources are downloaded a collection or two might change. To take care of that possibility, all Logos would seem to need to do is set a flag to indicate if this has happened, then Logos can check the flag and determine if collections need to be rebuilt.
Another approach is to let us control when collections are rebuilt.
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Mark A. Smith said:Anthony Hamlin said:
I had totally forgot about the dynamic collections or the new feature functionally in relationship to a cache
That dynamism only matters when there is a chance that a collection needs to be updated. Certainly not between switching layouts. Perhaps if new metadata or new or updated resources are downloaded a collection or two might change. To take care of that possibility, all Logos would seem to need to do is set a flag to indicate if this has happened, then Logos can check the flag and determine if collections need to be rebuilt.
Another approach is to let us control when collections are rebuilt.
I see... I would prefer the autonomy
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Mark A. Smith said:
Another approach is to let us control when collections are rebuilt.
I would rather my collections rebuild when the formula I created calls for changes.
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Mark A. Smith said:
To take care of that possibility, all Logos would seem to need to do is set a flag to indicate if this has happened, then Logos can check the flag and determine if collections need to be rebuilt.
Another approach is to let us control when collections are rebuilt.
As another comment on Logos' design[:P] I would venture that much of this is due to the initial guidance to develop the features and not worry about efficiency/optimisation. Many errors/inefficiencies are due to the asynchronous threading of tasks such as rebuilding collections which can then occur at "inappropriate" times. Setting a flag or removing an event trigger may resolve the situation but manual control should be avoided because reliability would become a bigger issue.
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:
...because reliability would become a bigger issue.
You do mean "user" reliability, right?
What about a flag that would do a force update/check for need "on exit" thereby limiting the user reliability-liability? You are already required to restart for several scenarios already.
[^o)]
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Anthony Hamlin said:
You do mean "user" reliability, right?
= human fallibility[:)] = entering a command like Sync Now.
Setting flags is slightly different because the option will have a default action.
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:
I would venture that much of this is due to the initial guidance to develop the features and not worry about efficiency/optimisation.
I think you hit the nail on the head. This type of issue is why I advocated for the "Focus on code/performance optimization" suggestion on the uservoice list.
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Ronald S Keyston Jr said:Dave Hooton said:
I would venture that much of this is due to the initial guidance to develop the features and not worry about efficiency/optimisation.
I think you hit the nail on the head. This type of issue is why I advocated for the "Focus on code/performance optimization" suggestion on the uservoice list.
There are some efficiency/optimization issues that if not designed into the architecture from the very beginning can be difficult to add in later. I cut my coding teeth (well, my molars) on Writing Efficient Programs by Jon Bentley. You've got to be thinking efficient design from the beginning or no amount of post-feature optimization will bring it up to speed.
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Would it be possible to set the rebuilding the collections so that Logos would do that only after Logos is inactive for let's say 5 minutes, plus after any changes to the collection string?
Bohuslav
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All that needs to be done is for them to be stored in a database table, and updated whenever the the library is edited, collections are edited, or new resources are added.
I have 29 collections. But here's how inefficient the code is. If I switch from one layout to another how many queries do you think are executed on those collections? The most efficient way would probably result in 29 queries - one for each collection. I'll tell you how many there are: 274. Remember, there are only 29 different queries, but just loading a layout from the home page runs every one of those queries an average of ten times. You even often the the situation of the same query being run twice on two separate threads, at the same time! As far as I can tell from the log times, those searches are not even cached.
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Mark A. Smith said:
Attached is the log file showing how switching from a 7 pane, 44 panel layout to a 7 pane 50 panel went under RC-2.
Unfortunately this switchover took 8 minutes and 45 second to accomplish.
Is this a (significant) change from Logos 4.0a on your system? How long does it take to perform the same layout switches?
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Mark Barnes said:
All that needs to be done is for them to be stored in a database table, and updated whenever the the library is edited, collections are edited, or new resources are added.
I have 29 collections. But here's how inefficient the code is. If I switch from one layout to another how many queries do you think are executed on those collections? The most efficient way would probably result in 29 queries - one for each collection. I'll tell you how many there are: 274. Remember, there are only 29 different queries, but just loading a layout from the home page runs every one of those queries an average of ten times. You even often the the situation of the same query being run twice on two separate threads, at the same time! As far as I can tell from the log times, those searches are not even cached.
Wow! Now that is "not efficient".
I noticed something similar in that there was a repetitive event in the logs when I was using the pronunciation tool offline.
I should have saved the log.... maybe I can duplicated it.... not that it caused any issues, it just seems like another match-stick on the heap of things that would drain on L4's performance.UPDATE: ok... here's what it was doing.... though again, it's not causing a problem.
2010-03-12 12:03:26.3489 1 Info PronunciationUtility Playing wav pronunciation from GreekLemmasErasmian.
2010-03-12 12:03:26.7399 1 Info HyperlinkUtility Unable to launch default browser for pronunciation:: Unknown error (0x80041002)
2010-03-12 12:03:29.6329 1 Info PronunciationUtility Playing wav pronunciation from GreekLemmasErasmian.
2010-03-12 12:03:29.6329 1 Info HyperlinkUtility Unable to launch default browser for pronunciation:: Unknown error (0x80041002)
2010-03-12 12:03:31.2829 1 Info PronunciationUtility Playing wav pronunciation from GreekLemmasErasmian.
2010-03-12 12:03:31.2959 1 Info HyperlinkUtility Unable to launch default browser for pronunciation:: Unknown error (0x80041002)
2010-03-12 12:03:32.8989 1 Info PronunciationUtility Playing wav pronunciation from GreekLemmasErasmian.
2010-03-12 12:03:32.9209 1 Info HyperlinkUtility Unable to launch default browser for pronunciation:: Unknown error (0x80041002)0 -
Bradley Grainger said:
Is this a (significant) change from Logos 4.0a on your system? How long does it take to perform the same layout switches?
In 4.0ba (Edit) the switchover takes 7 minutes and 0 seconds. Still unreasonably long, but better than in 4.0b.
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Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark Barnes said:
I have 29 collections. But here's how inefficient the code is. If I switch from one layout to another how many queries do you think are executed on those collections? The most efficient way would probably result in 29 queries - one for each collection. I'll tell you how many there are: 274.
I noticed the same inefficiency (during a layout switch) with my 14 collections - most done twice, some three times and some only once. A total of 30. Nowhere near 274. And yes, they don't appear to be cached. Some run on the main thread of my Core 2 Duo and this is the main reason I've kept my collections small.
I just counted the number on startup of L4 on my quad-core i7. The total queries was 62 over the first 20 seconds and it twice launched the same query on two different threads at the same time (I didn't copy Mark's words either - I was just as amazed!).
Dave
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Here are the relevant lines from my logs so you can see for yourself. (I've extracted just the relevant lines from the log, and added some abbreviations.) Remember, all that I did was switch layouts. (Note: I have several nested collections, which is probably why it's particularly bad in my case.) If you want to see the same query running simultaneously in two threads, line 976 and following is a good (but not the only) example. You can copy and paste the text to be able to view the parts of lines that are cut off.
Line 920: 2010-03-12 16:32:20.2519 21 Info LibraryCatalogIndex Searching for all records matching: type:apparatus
Line 921: 2010-03-12 16:32:20.6494 21 InfoLibraryCatalogIndex Searching for all records matching: type:dictionary AND (lang:aramaic OR title:aramaic OR subject:aramaic) ANDNOT title:glossary
Line 922: 2010-03-12 16:32:20.7705 21 ILCI Sfarm: (title:(manner,custom,background,archaeolog, archeolog) OR subject:(manner,custom,”New Testament—Background”,”Jews”, “Judaism”) OR (subject:(excavation,archaeolog,archeolog, antiquities) AND type:dictionary)) ANDNOT subject:(canon,doctrine,”Jews—Conversion”, “Hebrew Language”)
Line 923: 2010-03-12 16:32:20.9951 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (title:bibl OR (subject:bible AND subject:dictionaries) OR subject:”220.3”)
Line 924: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.1367 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (lang:greek OR title:greek OR subject:greek) ANDNOT title:glossary
Line 925: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.2275 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (lang:hebrew OR title:hebrew OR subject:hebrew) ANDNOT (title:glossary OR subject:hebrews)
Line 926: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.2392 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (lang:aramaic OR title:aramaic OR subject:aramaic) ANDNOT title:glossary
Line 927: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.2548 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (lang:greek OR title:greek OR subject:greek) ANDNOT title:glossary
Line 928: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.2988 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (lang:hebrew OR title:hebrew OR subject:hebrew) ANDNOT (title:glossary OR subject:hebrews)
Line 929: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.2988 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:”bible commentary” AND (title:hebrews OR subject:hebrews)
Line 930: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.3496 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:commentary AND (title:john OR subject:john) ANDNOT (subject:”1 John” OR subject:”2 John” OR subject:”3 John” OR subject:”John, 1st” OR subject:”John, 2nd” OR subject:”John, 3rd” OR subject:revelation OR subject:”epistles of john”)
Line 931: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.5654 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:commentary AND (title:john OR subject:john) ANDNOT (subject:revelation)
Line 932: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.6005 22 ILCI Sfarm: type:apparatus
Line 933: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.6005 22 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (lang:aramaic OR title:aramaic OR subject:aramaic) ANDNOT title:glossary
Line 934: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.6113 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:commentary AND (title:john OR subject:john) ANDNOT (subject:”1 John” OR subject:”2 John” OR subject:”3 John” OR subject:”John, 1st” OR subject:”John, 2nd” OR subject:”John, 3rd” OR subject:revelation OR subject:”epistles of john”)
Line 935: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.6113 22 ILCI Sfarm: (title:(manner,custom,background,archaeolog, archeolog) OR subject:(manner,custom,”New Testament—Background”,”Jews”, “Judaism”) OR (subject:(excavation,archaeolog,archeolog, antiquities) AND type:dictionary)) ANDNOT subject:(canon,doctrine,”Jews—Conversion”, “Hebrew Language”)
Line 936: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.6630 22 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (title:bibl OR (subject:bible AND subject:dictionaries) OR subject:”220.3”)
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Line 939: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.7187 22 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (lang:hebrew OR title:hebrew OR subject:hebrew) ANDNOT (title:glossary OR subject:hebrews)
Line 940: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.7187 22 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (lang:aramaic OR title:aramaic OR subject:aramaic) ANDNOT title:glossary
Line 941: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.7421 22 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (lang:greek OR title:greek OR subject:greek) ANDNOT title:glossary
Line 942: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.7539 22 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (lang:hebrew OR title:hebrew OR subject:hebrew) ANDNOT (title:glossary OR subject:hebrews)
Line 943: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.7656 22 ILCI Sfarm: type:”bible commentary” AND (title:hebrews OR subject:hebrews)
Line 944: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.7841 22 ILCI Sfarm: type:commentary AND (title:john OR subject:john) ANDNOT (subject:”1 John” OR subject:”2 John” OR subject:”3 John” OR subject:”John, 1st” OR subject:”John, 2nd” OR subject:”John, 3rd” OR subject:revelation OR subject:”epistles of john”)
Line 945: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.8369 22 ILCI Sfarm: type:commentary AND (title:john OR subject:john) ANDNOT (subject:revelation)
Line 946: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.8544 22 ILCI Sfarm: type:commentary AND (title:john OR subject:john) ANDNOT (subject:”1 John” OR subject:”2 John” OR subject:”3 John” OR subject:”John, 1st” OR subject:”John, 2nd” OR subject:”John, 3rd” OR subject:revelation OR subject:”epistles of john”)
Line 947: 2010-03-12 16:32:21.8876 22 ILCI Sfarm: (title:”systematic theology” OR title:dogmatic OR (subject:theology AND subject:doctrinal)) AND type:monograph ANDNOT (title:sermon)
Line 948: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.0771 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:commentary AND subject:”Bible—Commentaries” ANDNOT subject:”Bible—Commentaries—Collected works”
Line 949: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.1328 21 ILCI Sfarm: rating:<4
Line 950: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.1601 22 ILCI Sfarm: type:commentary AND subject:”Bible—Commentaries” ANDNOT subject:”Bible—Commentaries—Collected works”
Line 951: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.1933 22 ILCI Sfarm: rating:<4
Line 952: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.5634 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (title:bibl OR (subject:bible AND subject:dictionaries) OR subject:”220.3”)
Line 953: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.5839 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (lang:greek OR title:greek OR subject:greek) ANDNOT title:glossary
Line 954: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.5947 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (lang:hebrew OR title:hebrew OR subject:hebrew) ANDNOT (title:glossary OR subject:hebrews)
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Line 961: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.7724 22 ILCI Sfarm: rating:<4
Line 962: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.7988 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (lang:greek OR title:greek OR subject:greek) ANDNOT title:glossary
Line 963: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.7988 21 ILCI Sfarm: rating:<4
Line 964: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.8681 22 ILCI Sfarm: type:dictionary AND (lang:greek OR title:greek OR subject:greek) ANDNOT title:glossary
Line 965: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.8789 22 ILCI Sfarm: rating:<4
Line 966: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.9599 21 ILCI Sfarm: (title:(manner,custom,background,archaeolog, archeolog) OR subject:(manner,custom,”New Testament—Background”,”Jews”, “Judaism”) OR (subject:(excavation,archaeolog,archeolog, antiquities) AND type:dictionary)) ANDNOT subject:(canon,doctrine,”Jews—Conversion”, “Hebrew Language”)
Line 967: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.9599 22 ILCI Sfarm: (title:(manner,custom,background,archaeolog, archeolog) OR subject:(manner,custom,”New Testament—Background”,”Jews”, “Judaism”) OR (subject:(excavation,archaeolog,archeolog, antiquities) AND type:dictionary)) ANDNOT subject:(canon,doctrine,”Jews—Conversion”, “Hebrew Language”)
Line 968: 2010-03-12 16:32:22.9892 21 ILCI Sfarm: rating:<4
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Line 971: 2010-03-12 16:32:23.0937 21 ILCI Sfarm: rating:<4
Line 972: 2010-03-12 16:32:23.2236 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:bible-commentary series:("New International Commentary on the Old and New Testament", "New International Greek Testament Commentary", Hermeneia, "Critical Commentary", JPS, Pillar, "socio-rhetorical", "word biblical", "ancient christian commentary", "Baker Exegetical")
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Line 976: 2010-03-12 16:32:23.4580 22 ILCI Sfarm: author:"calvin, john", title:calvin, subject:calvin
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Line 986: 2010-03-12 16:32:24.4658 21 ILCI Sfarm: author:"calvin, john", title:calvin, subject:calvin
Line 987: 2010-03-12 16:32:24.4658 22 ILCI Sfarm: type:bible-commentary series:("New International Commentary on the Old and New Testament", "New International Greek Testament Commentary", Hermeneia, "Critical Commentary", JPS, Pillar, "socio-rhetorical", "word biblical", "ancient christian commentary", "Baker Exegetical")
Line 988: 2010-03-12 16:32:24.4833 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:bible-commentary AND series:("baker new testament", "bible speaks today", "black's new testament", "book of Isaiah (Young)", "Calvin's Commentary", Ellicott, "Charles Hodge", "Hebrews (Owen)", "Holman New Testament", "International Theological", "IVP New Testament", Lange, Lenski, "New American", Barnhouse, "United Bible Societies' Handbooks", "Tyndale Commentaries", "New International Biblical Commentary")
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Line 5026: 2010-03-12 16:32:40.6777 21 ILCI Sfarm: type:bible AND lang:english ANDNOT (title:(commentary,epistle))This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!
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