BUG: Resource Omission / Product Page Error - Tyndale Bible

Robert M. Warren
Robert M. Warren Member Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

The product page  for the English Bible Collection (https://www.logos.com/product/16808/english-bible-collection#003 ) strongly implies that Tyndale's Pentateuch is included in the "Tyndale Bible", or it does not make explicit that the resource consists only of the NT. The purchased resource contains only the NT.

See this thread: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/134377.aspx 

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  • Robert M. Warren
    Robert M. Warren Member Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭

    Two purposes:

    1. Bump the thread, even though I realize there's holiday staffing. I'll bump again next week if necessary.
    2. Add to the BUG complaint the lack of verse milestoning.

    I had speculated in another thread that maybe I was being too picky that the verses aren't milestoned. I retract that mumble here, as another user wisely advised. Without verse tagging, this resource won't display in Text Comparison and won't behave well with multiview or in linksets.

    My happy observation is that (I think) every other resource in the collection does have verses milestoned. So that the Tyndale resource would not feel so all alone, every verse must get milestoned.

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  • Jan Krohn
    Jan Krohn Member Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭

    Are these random squares supposed to be there, or is it another bug in the resource...?

  • Kyle G. Anderson
    Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,238
    1. There's no verse milestones because the print doesn't have verse milestones. We attempted to created ranged verse milestone mapping but it proved to be not-feasible. Here's what we will be doing: we will compare the text with the NRSV and ESV and add invisible verse milestones at the same milestone breaks found in those resources. We will not be adding visible verse indicators. This will allow you to navigate by verse milestone and run the text comparison tool. By omitting the visible verse indicators we will preserve the original formatting of the resource.
    2. The square is due to a missing font. (I don't recall the font off the top of my head). If you have that font installed, it would be visible. I don't particularly like it so we'll change it at the same time.
  • Glenn Crouch
    Glenn Crouch Member Posts: 560 ✭✭

    1. There's no verse milestones because the print doesn't have verse milestones. We attempted to created ranged verse milestone mapping but it proved to be not-feasible. Here's what we will be doing: we will compare the text with the NRSV and ESV and add invisible verse milestones at the same milestone breaks found in those resources. We will not be adding visible verse indicators. This will allow you to navigate by verse milestone and run the text comparison tool. By omitting the visible verse indicators we will preserve the original formatting of the resource.
    2. The square is due to a missing font. (I don't recall the font off the top of my head). If you have that font installed, it would be visible. I don't particularly like it so we'll change it at the same time.

    These changes would be appreciated - thanks! [Y]

    Pastor Glenn Crouch
    St Paul's Lutheran Church
    Kalgoorlie-Boulder, Western Australia

  • Matthew
    Matthew Member Posts: 941 ✭✭

    Glad to hear Faithlife is taking a second look at this. Kyle, after invisible verse milestones have been added, would it then be possible to use a visual filter such as "one verse per line" in place of visible verse indicators to facilitate comparative studies? Thanks.

  • Jan Krohn
    Jan Krohn Member Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭

    The square is due to a missing font. (I don't recall the font off the top of my head). If you have that font installed, it would be visible. I don't particularly like it so we'll change it at the same time.

    Thanks! I can see the character on biblia.com, although I wonder why there's a "half h" in those spots...

    IF ye be then rysen agayne wt Christ/seke those thynges which are above/where Christ sytteth on the right hand of God. Set your affeccion on thinges that are above/and not on thinges which are on the earth. For ye are dead/& your lyfe is hyd with Christ in God. When Christ which is oure lyfe/shal shewe him selfe/then shall ye also appere with him in glory. ⱶ

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudian_letters

    I reckon this should be a different character...

  • Kyle G. Anderson
    Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,238

    Matthew said:

    Glad to hear Faithlife is taking a second look at this. Kyle, after invisible verse milestones have been added, would it then be possible to use a visual filter such as "one verse per line" in place of visible verse indicators to facilitate comparative studies? Thanks.

    Yes. Those filters are driven by milestones--which will be present.

    Jan Krohn said:

    The square is due to a missing font. (I don't recall the font off the top of my head). If you have that font installed, it would be visible. I don't particularly like it so we'll change it at the same time.

    Thanks! I can see the character on biblia.com, although I wonder why there's a "half h" in those spots...

    IF ye be then rysen agayne wt Christ/seke those thynges which are above/where Christ sytteth on the right hand of God. Set your affeccion on thinges that are above/and not on thinges which are on the earth. For ye are dead/& your lyfe is hyd with Christ in God. When Christ which is oure lyfe/shal shewe him selfe/then shall ye also appere with him in glory. ⱶ

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudian_letters

    I reckon this should be a different character...

    This is probably easy to believe but the source material is really hard to read in places. It looks like those "half h" characters are just smudgy print where they should have the cross character found throughout the text.

  • Robert M. Warren
    Robert M. Warren Member Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭
    Kyle:
    Thanks for the prospective fix. I think my post might not have been clear: I wasn"t expecting any surface text changes, just milestone tagging.

    I'm assuming the Pentateuch issue won't be addressed, since...you didn't address it. So FL will edit the product page, as it clearly gives an expectation that isn't fulfilled. Right?

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  • Robert M. Warren
    Robert M. Warren Member Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭

    I'm assuming the Pentateuch issue won't be addressed, since...you didn't address it. So FL will edit the product page, as it clearly gives an expectation that isn't fulfilled. Right?

    I guess not.

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  • Josh Grantham
    Josh Grantham Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4

    Hello Robert,

    The description on the product page has now been updated to only reference the New Testament for this resource.  Thanks for pointing that out.

  • Robert M. Warren
    Robert M. Warren Member Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭

    lack of verse milestoning.

    Happy to report that the Tyndale NT now has tagging to the verse level. It downloaded for me today.

    Thanks for the work, Faithlife! This makes the resource significantly more useful.

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