Logos Web App on a Win10 Tablet

I'm wondering how the functionality and speed of using the Logos Web App on a Windows 10 tablet might compare to using the Logos mobile app on an Android or Apple tablet. If you have experience with the web app on a Win10 tablet, would you share which tablet(s) you've used and what you thought of it?

I expect one caveat of using a Win10 tablet for the "desktop" version of Logos is that Logos will insist on downloading the user's entire library because it will see no difference between a Win10 table and a Win10 PC. But with the Logos "web app", I assume there will be no library download, so it seems like a very interesting possibility to me versus using the mobile app on an Android or Apple device. The main downside I anticipate with the web app is that unlike an Android/Apple device using the mobile app, you're simply out-of-luck without the internet connection, so you have no option to use the device with the web app when offline as you can with the mobile app.

Anyone willing/able to share their experience/thoughts?

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Bob Schaefer

A quick impression: It's a helpful tool and a step in a good direction.

The great strength of the web app for Windows tablet users, of course, is that it takes up no storage space. On a 32, 64, or even 128 GB device, that can be a real help. The web app replicates some of the most important features of desktop Logos, but fits on even the tiniest hard drive - that's a win.

And it includes many of the tools that help you dig deeper into the text. You may have to adjust your workflow a bit, and there are certainly tools and features that are not webified yet - but it's pretty impressive how much of the Logos experience has been captured within a web page. You can definitely do serious Bible study with the web app.

It's not all roses, of course. The web app requires a live internet connection. It has a lot of little glitches and oddities still that will get polished over time. It's less touch-friendly than either the desktop app or a regular browser - don't plan on even scrolling a resource with your finger at the moment.

Bottom line is I'm still going to keep my kludgy thumb-drive installation of desktop Logos for when I need serious, or offline, or touch-friendly access on my Surface Pro 3. But I'm impressed with what's been accomplished in the web app and glad to have another option that will be a good choice in certain scenarios. Kudos to Faithlife for making this more broadly available.

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/912315#Comment_912315

Thanks for the feedback, Bob. We're shipping improvements all the time, so it should become a much more polished and comparable experience over the coming weeks and months.

We have a few cases to address touch support. I use the web app on a Samsung Chromebook Plus, and I've noticed that we need to make improvements to scrolling and context menu.

Keep the feedback coming. It helps us make sure we're devoting our efforts in the right places.

Thanks!

Rick Ausdahl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/912315#Comment_912315

A quick impression: It's a helpful tool and a step in a good direction.

The great strength of the web app for Windows tablet users, of course, is that it takes up no storage space. On a 32, 64, or even 128 GB device, that can be a real help. The web app replicates some of the most important features of desktop Logos, but fits on even the tiniest hard drive - that's a win.

And it includes many of the tools that help you dig deeper into the text. You may have to adjust your workflow a bit, and there are certainly tools and features that are not webified yet - but it's pretty impressive how much of the Logos experience has been captured within a web page. You can definitely do serious Bible study with the web app.

It's not all roses, of course. The web app requires a live internet connection. It has a lot of little glitches and oddities still that will get polished over time. It's less touch-friendly than either the desktop app or a regular browser - don't plan on even scrolling a resource with your finger at the moment.

Bottom line is I'm still going to keep my kludgy thumb-drive installation of desktop Logos for when I need serious, or offline, or touch-friendly access on my Surface Pro 3. But I'm impressed with what's been accomplished in the web app and glad to have another option that will be a good choice in certain scenarios. Kudos to Faithlife for making this more broadly available.

Thanks for the feedback, Bob. I apologize for not acknowledging your post sooner, but it's been less than 24 hours since we finished a five week stint of keeping five grandchildren while our daughter and son-in-law were in between closing dates of a home they sold and one they bought.

While recognizing the web app can still benefit from some tweaks and polishing, it sounds like you are reasonably satisfied with response time and the overall experience with the Win 10 tablet. That's good to know. Of the concerns you mentioned, any lack in regard to touch-friendliness would be high on my list of concerns when using a tablet. Based on Phil's post, hopefully Faithlife will be making improvements in that area in the near future.

With that being said, I tend to think the best overall option for me would be a solid touch-friendly Windows version of Logos that like the desktop and Mobile apps does not require an internet connection to run, AND provides the same level of resource download control on a Win 10 tablet as the mobile apps provide on Android and Apple mobile devices so I don't have to worry about Logos trying to put my entire library on the tablet.

What do you think, Phil? Any chance of something along those lines within the next couple of years or is it just a pipe-dream? [;)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/913692#Comment_913692

To me, the showstoppers preventing me from using the web app more often are: (1) notes integration with desktop; (2) context menu support; and (3) touch (lower priority because it basically works as far as I can tell but just clunky).

Thanks,

Peter

Kevin A. Purcell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/913703#Comment_913703

To me, the showstoppers preventing me from using the web app more often are: (1) notes integration with desktop;

AMEN!!

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/914617#Comment_914617

To me, the showstoppers preventing me from using the web app more often are: (1) notes integration with desktop;

AMEN!!

Notes is our top priority right now.

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/913703#Comment_913703

To me, the showstoppers preventing me from using the web app more often are: (1) notes integration with desktop; (2) context menu support; and (3) touch (lower priority because it basically works as far as I can tell but just clunky).

Thanks,

Peter

Can you specify what you'd like in terms of context menu support? The full context menu as in desktop? Or are there particular things that are missing that you'd like to see us add?

We're making some basic improvements to touch support soon.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/914623#Comment_914623

Sorry, I meant the context menu not working on the iPad (Safari nor Chrome).

Peter