NASB Verse by Verse Form
My NASB is now back in verse form. Is the paragraph form gone for good or do we get a choice as to format?
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You will have a choice of format. FL will make available a separate NASB resource in paragraph form, which might be shipping this month.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Correct. The new paragraph version is finished and published. We'll be unveiling how to grab it very shortly.
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Mine is still paragraph format which is fine.
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Whyndell Grizzard said:
Mine is still paragraph format which is fine.
It sounds like you haven't updated Logos yet. The resource update which reverted it to verse format was available earlier today.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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I am not angry, but I am very disappointed in the way FL has handled this whole issue. I had no choice when it changed from verse to paragraph form and no choice when it went back to verse form. Also, no information was given as to when either of the changes would be made. They simply happened. Again, I'm not angry, and I hope FL has learned from this issue.
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Info WAS given, but just in the forums. An email should have been sent.
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alabama24 said:
Info WAS given, but just in the forums. An email should have been sent.
The forums only reach a subset of customers, FL continue to fail to understand that point.
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Have they mentioned when the great and better paragraph version will return, its hard reading the sinners version.[6]
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Whyndell Grizzard said:
Have they mentioned when the great and better paragraph version will return
A FL employee (Ben?) mentioned that an announcement should be shortly forthcoming. No idea what that means.
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I don't recall mention, but will it work off the same RI? or another copy? Surely an RI is included?
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I assume the "same" RI, but a separate resource. Notes in one won't be attached to the other resource.
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This should all be rolling out soon (I'm waiting on a few final details).
There will be a separate product page for the paragraph version. We will set up a discount such that anyone who owns the current version of the NASB will be able to get the paragraph version free. There is a new reverse interlinear for the paragraph version. That, too, will be available for free to anyone who owns the previous reverse interlinear.
I'll post here in the forums when that's ready. We'll plan to send out some email communication later this week or next week.
Thanks!
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Thank you[:D]
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Thanks for the paragraph version, looks great and it is very convenient to have both formats available.
One request, since I keep both linked to my tool bar- can you make one with a different color/ design to easily distinguish them?
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https://www.logos.com/product/145179/the-new-american-standard-bible-1995-update
That is the link for the paragraph version. Haven't seen the interlinear yet though
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Whyndell Grizzard said:
One request, since I keep both linked to my tool bar- can you make one with a different color/ design to easily distinguish them?
I have noticed that the website has a different color, but on the desktop, it is the same color (Blue) for both. Hopefully they will change it on the desktop to match the color on the website.
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Not available on mobile either.. yet
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Mattillo said:
Not available on mobile either.. yet
IIRC, Faithlife has said in the past that it can take up to a week to propogate to the mobile system. The web page does indicate Mobile will be available.
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Yes sir. I only meant it as an observation. I know these things take time and no official announcement has been made yet.
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Randy W. Sims said:Mattillo said:
Not available on mobile either.. yet
IIRC, Faithlife has said in the past that it can take up to a week to propogate to the mobile system. The web page does indicate Mobile will be available.
I've noticed that it usually only takes a few hours these days.
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Mattillo said:
Yes sir. I only meant it as an observation. I know these things take time and no official announcement has been made yet.
Yes, the way us Logos users are, if it's posted, we're going to download it whether it's ready or not. [:)]
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Paragraph version is up:
https://www.logos.com/product/145179/the-new-american-standard-bible-1995-update
Was Free for me so looks like discount is applied correctly. Didn't see the interlinear that was mentioned yet though...
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Erwin Stull, Sr. said:Whyndell Grizzard said:
One request, since I keep both linked to my tool bar- can you make one with a different color/ design to easily distinguish them?
I have noticed that the website has a different color, but on the desktop, it is the same color (Blue) for both. Hopefully they will change it on the desktop to match the color on the website.
[Y][Y] Just as NIV84 and NIV2011 have contrasting colors, NASB and NASBPARA need contrasting icons!!
Maybe NASB95PARA will "go gold" (like the website) when the RI is added [:D]
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David Thomas said:Erwin Stull, Sr. said:Whyndell Grizzard said:
One request, since I keep both linked to my tool bar- can you make one with a different color/ design to easily distinguish them?
I have noticed that the website has a different color, but on the desktop, it is the same color (Blue) for both. Hopefully they will change it on the desktop to match the color on the website.
Just as NIV84 and NIV2011 have contrasting colors, NASB and NASBPARA need contrasting icons!!Good idea. We'll look into it.
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Dustin Pearson said:
Paragraph version is up:
https://www.logos.com/product/145179/the-new-american-standard-bible-1995-update
Was Free for me so looks like discount is applied correctly. Didn't see the interlinear that was mentioned yet though...
The reverse interlinear should be up soon.
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Dustin Pearson said:
Paragraph version is up:
https://www.logos.com/product/145179/the-new-american-standard-bible-1995-update
Was Free for me so looks like discount is applied correctly. Didn't see the interlinear that was mentioned yet though...
The reverse interlinear should be up soon.
Thank you sir! If you could post a link when available I'd appreciate it
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Dustin Pearson said:
Paragraph version is up:
https://www.logos.com/product/145179/the-new-american-standard-bible-1995-update
Was Free for me so looks like discount is applied correctly. Didn't see the interlinear that was mentioned yet though...
The reverse interlinear should be up soon.
Cool! Thanks a lot!
DAL
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The reverse interlinear should be up soon.
Will that require a separate "purchase"?
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alabama24 said:
The reverse interlinear should be up soon.
Will that require a separate "purchase"?
No.
This should all be rolling out soon (I'm waiting on a few final details).
There will be a separate product page for the paragraph version. We will set up a discount such that anyone who owns the current version of the NASB will be able to get the paragraph version free. There is a new reverse interlinear for the paragraph version. That, too, will be available for free to anyone who owns the previous reverse interlinear.
I'll post here in the forums when that's ready. We'll plan to send out some email communication later this week or next week.
Thanks!
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Randall Cue said:
No.
Thanks Randall. My use of quotation marks was meant to imply that I knew the "purchase" would be free. Reading Ben's response, I can't decipher if we will need to "purchase" a second item, just as we had to "purchase" the first.
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Instead of having two separate versions of the NASB as two separate Bibles, wouldn't it be easier and better for everyone if there was one NASB Bible with options in the visual filters to either be verse by verse or paragraph by paragraph? I don't understand the need to use two separate resources for the exact same underlying NASB. Perhaps I missed a discussion of this elsewhere?
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alabama24 said:Randall Cue said:
No.
Thanks Randall. My use of quotation marks was meant to imply that I knew the "purchase" would be free. Reading Ben's response, I can't decipher if we will need to "purchase" a second item, just as we had to "purchase" the first.
Makes sense. Sorry I misunderstood.
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Why yes, Yes you did. [:P]Daniel Radke said:Perhaps I missed a discussion of this elsewhere?
Your view was FL's view. FL released what you suggested, but there was strong opposition. The "verse by verse" visual filter doesn't adequately (for some users) reproduce what was existing before. For background: The NASB95 translators held to a "verse by verse" formatting philosophy. Many users bought the NASB for that reason. Apparently most current NASB print copies are in paragraph format, which has led to many users regularly requesting a paragraph version. After years of no responses from FL, in a flash it happened nearly overnight. Then the Sound and the Fury. Although my preference is for paragraph formatting, and I agree with you in a general sense, I feel strongly that this was the right decision. Those who purchased the NASB95 for its unique formatting should not lose access to it... even if others of us can't see the big deal.
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Randall Cue said:alabama24 said:Randall Cue said:
No.
Thanks Randall. My use of quotation marks was meant to imply that I knew the "purchase" would be free. Reading Ben's response, I can't decipher if we will need to "purchase" a second item, just as we had to "purchase" the first.
Makes sense. Sorry I misunderstood.
No problem. Your heart was in the right place and I appreciate it. [:)]
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Kyle G. Anderson said:Erwin Stull, Sr. said:
I have noticed that the website has a different color, but on the desktop, it is the same color (Blue) for both. Hopefully they will change it on the desktop to match the color on the website.
Good idea. We'll look into it.
Faithlife,
I agree giving the new NASB Paragraph Version its own icon color (such as the gold one reflected on its product page) would be helpful; but please do not change the blue color of the original verse formatted NASB.
I only use the original verse formatted NASB and its blue icon is a good non-distracting color for my eyes which are very sensitive to some of the other ultra bright high contrast bible cover icons used (i.e., ESV, LEB). Again, my request here to keep the blue icon pertains solely to the original verse formatted NASB.
Thank you
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Dustin Pearson said:
Paragraph version is up:
https://www.logos.com/product/145179/the-new-american-standard-bible-1995-update
Was Free for me so looks like discount is applied correctly. Didn't see the interlinear that was mentioned yet though...
The reverse interlinear should be up soon.
Did the reverse interlinear go up?
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The NASB 1995 Paragraph Version is now active on mobile.
The book cover color and the reverse interlinear is not posted yet.
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Great news!
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Dustin Pearson said:
Paragraph version is up:
https://www.logos.com/product/145179/the-new-american-standard-bible-1995-update
Was Free for me so looks like discount is applied correctly. Didn't see the interlinear that was mentioned yet though...
The reverse interlinear should be up soon.
Any updates on the reverse interlinear sir?
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Hi there,
The reverse interlinear is up. The collection includes all NASB reverse interlinears (OT/NT line-by-line and OT/NT paragraph) and is set up with dynamic pricing, which should allow you to get the new ones for free.
https://www.logos.com/product/145180/the-new-american-standard-bible-nasb-reverse-interlinears-set
Thanks!
Mattillo said:
Dustin Pearson said:Paragraph version is up:
https://www.logos.com/product/145179/the-new-american-standard-bible-1995-update
Was Free for me so looks like discount is applied correctly. Didn't see the interlinear that was mentioned yet though...
The reverse interlinear should be up soon.
Any updates on the reverse interlinear sir?
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Kristina Vandiver said:
Hi there,
The reverse interlinear is up. The collection includes all NASB reverse interlinears (OT/NT line-by-line and OT/NT paragraph) and is set up with dynamic pricing, which should allow you to get the new ones for free.
https://www.logos.com/product/145180/the-new-american-standard-bible-nasb-reverse-interlinears-set
Thanks!
Hi Kristina;
Is there any news on if the book cover will be changed to match that of the website sales page or if Faithlife will change it to something else?
As it is now, the covers are exactly the same, which presents some difficulty in identifying by sight one from the other.
Thanks
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Hi Erwin,
I can't speak to that, but I have sent your message to someone who can.
Thanks!
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Kristina Vandiver said:
Hi Erwin,
I can't speak to that, but I have sent your message to someone who can.
Thanks!
Thank you. [:)]
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Erwin Stull, Sr. said:Kristina Vandiver said:
Hi there,
The reverse interlinear is up. The collection includes all NASB reverse interlinears (OT/NT line-by-line and OT/NT paragraph) and is set up with dynamic pricing, which should allow you to get the new ones for free.
https://www.logos.com/product/145180/the-new-american-standard-bible-nasb-reverse-interlinears-set
Thanks!
Hi Kristina;
Is there any news on if the book cover will be changed to match that of the website sales page or if Faithlife will change it to something else?
As it is now, the covers are exactly the same, which presents some difficulty in identifying by sight one from the other.
Thanks
That's the plan. We'll keep the original NASB95 the same and come up with something different for the paragraph edition. AT this point I don't have a time estimate of when it'll be finished.
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Kyle G. Anderson said:Erwin Stull, Sr. said:Kristina Vandiver said:
Hi there,
The reverse interlinear is up. The collection includes all NASB reverse interlinears (OT/NT line-by-line and OT/NT paragraph) and is set up with dynamic pricing, which should allow you to get the new ones for free.
https://www.logos.com/product/145180/the-new-american-standard-bible-nasb-reverse-interlinears-set
Thanks!
Hi Kristina;
Is there any news on if the book cover will be changed to match that of the website sales page or if Faithlife will change it to something else?
As it is now, the covers are exactly the same, which presents some difficulty in identifying by sight one from the other.
Thanks
That's the plan. We'll keep the original NASB95 the same and come up with something different for the paragraph edition. AT this point I don't have a time estimate of when it'll be finished.
Thanks, Kyle;
I guess it's a little more complicated than I was thinking. I was thinking that you could probably just use the image that's shown on the website, since that one is already established.
You know we want a quick fix most of the time. [:)]
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I want to thank Faithlife for the way they handled this entire issue. They produced a paragraph formatted text for those who wanted it, and have allowed those of us who wanted the one verse a line format basically unchanged to have that, too. Those who've been following along know that this caused more trouble for FL than they imagined. Yet, when faced with the response, they did the right thing in order to please all of us. This is excellent customer service. Much appreciated.
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Mark Smith said:
I want to thank Faithlife for the way they handled this entire issue. They produced a paragraph formatted text for those who wanted it, and have allowed those of us who wanted the one verse a line format basically unchanged to have that, too. Those who've been following along know that this caused more trouble for FL than they imagined. Yet, when faced with the response, they did the right thing in order to please all of us. This is excellent customer service. Much appreciated.
Totally agree👍
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Mark Smith said:
I want to thank Faithlife for the way they handled this entire issue. They produced a paragraph formatted text for those who wanted it, and have allowed those of us who wanted the one verse a line format basically unchanged to have that, too. Those who've been following along know that this caused more trouble for FL than they imagined. Yet, when faced with the response, they did the right thing in order to please all of us. This is excellent customer service. Much appreciated.
👍
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Mark Smith said:
I want to thank Faithlife for the way they handled this entire issue. They produced a paragraph formatted text for those who wanted it, and have allowed those of us who wanted the one verse a line format basically unchanged to have that, too. Those who've been following along know that this caused more trouble for FL than they imagined. Yet, when faced with the response, they did the right thing in order to please all of us. This is excellent customer service. Much appreciated.
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Mark Smith said:
I want to thank Faithlife for the way they handled this entire issue. They produced a paragraph formatted text for those who wanted it, and have allowed those of us who wanted the one verse a line format basically unchanged to have that, too. Those who've been following along know that this caused more trouble for FL than they imagined. Yet, when faced with the response, they did the right thing in order to please all of us. This is excellent customer service. Much appreciated.
Very well stated Mark! I also agree.
I’ve only been a Logos user for about three years but in that short time I’ve never been as excited about any Faithlife action than last week’s restoration of the original publisher’s verse formatted NASB with all its related functionality. I was also happy to see a separate paragraph version made available for those who prefer that format.
I realize there was some initial reluctance among team members who worked on this to the idea of maintaining two resources instead of one, but I truly believe the team came up with the perfect solution (one which is logical, practical, and fair).
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