Reading Plan frustration

Mark Barnes
Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

Why is it still not possible to create a reading plan where we read one chapter per day/week?* Surely this is how most people read books, not in groups of X pages per week regardless of where those pages fall.

Can any Logos devs give any encouragement about this getting any better in the future?

*  And yes, I know about custom reading plans. But then you have to spend ages selecting each chapter one by one, and then you're stuck with a plan you can't easily edit or 'catch up'.

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  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭
  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭

    Yes, please!! I don't use reading plans as much as I would like because of this frustration. And setting up a custom plan is too irritating for anything past a dozen chapters - I invariably put in a wrong date or mess up my selection somehow, and have to start over.

  • Richard Villanueva
    Richard Villanueva Member Posts: 510 ✭✭

    Is there a User Voice suggestion available for this request??

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  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    I have not looked for one yet Richard, because I'm trying to build a comprehensive request to submit.

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  • Phil Gons (Logos)
    Phil Gons (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 3,802

    Why is it still not possible to create a reading plan where we read one chapter per day/week?* Surely this is how most people read books, not in groups of X pages per week regardless of where those pages fall.

    Can any Logos devs give any encouragement about this getting any better in the future?

    *  And yes, I know about custom reading plans. But then you have to spend ages selecting each chapter one by one, and then you're stuck with a plan you can't easily edit or 'catch up'.

    Mark, we were just discussing this last week. We're working on improving the reference range picker for non-versified resources by exposing the table of contents, which will allow you to search or run a concordance on part of a resource based on its content structure. And we're exploring how to leverage this same TOC structure in the reading plan creation process. We've been doing two-week sprints with each of our Logos dev teams, and we may be able to tackle this in one of the next several sprints. 

    Longer term, we're considering a reading plans / Courses merger.

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Mark, we were just discussing this last week. We're working on improving the reference range picker for non-versified resources by exposing the table of contents, which will allow you to search or run a concordance on part of a resource based on its content structure.

    Thanks, Phil. That's encouraging. A better picker would make one step easier, although you can already specify page numbers, so that's not the main issue. The really vital thing is to prefer breaks at chapters/sub-headings, rather than page numbers.

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  • Phil Gons (Logos)
    Phil Gons (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 3,802

    Mark, we were just discussing this last week. We're working on improving the reference range picker for non-versified resources by exposing the table of contents, which will allow you to search or run a concordance on part of a resource based on its content structure.

    Thanks, Phil. That's encouraging. A better picker would make one step easier, although you can already specify page numbers, so that's not the main issue. The really vital thing is to prefer breaks at chapters/sub-headings, rather than page numbers.

    Agreed. Leveraging the book's own content structure for calculating intelligent divisions is the main goal of what we're investigating.

  • Andrew Zoll
    Andrew Zoll Member Posts: 183 ✭✭

    Mark, we were just discussing this last week. We're working on improving the reference range picker for non-versified resources by exposing the table of contents, which will allow you to search or run a concordance on part of a resource based on its content structure.

    Thanks, Phil. That's encouraging. A better picker would make one step easier, although you can already specify page numbers, so that's not the main issue. The really vital thing is to prefer breaks at chapters/sub-headings, rather than page numbers.

    Agreed. Leveraging the book's own content structure for calculating intelligent divisions is the main goal of what we're investigating.

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  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    We're working on improving the reference range picker for non-versified resources by exposing the table of contents, which will allow you to search or run a concordance on part of a resource based on its content structure. And we're exploring how to leverage this same TOC structure in the reading plan creation process. We've been doing two-week sprints with each of our Logos dev teams, and we may be able to tackle this in one of the next several sprints. 

    Longer term, we're considering a reading plans / Courses merger.

    In the interim Phil, could you look at the other thread and take note of some parallel thoughts.

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  • Phil Gons (Logos)
    Phil Gons (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 3,802

    TCBlack said:

    We're working on improving the reference range picker for non-versified resources by exposing the table of contents, which will allow you to search or run a concordance on part of a resource based on its content structure. And we're exploring how to leverage this same TOC structure in the reading plan creation process. We've been doing two-week sprints with each of our Logos dev teams, and we may be able to tackle this in one of the next several sprints. 

    Longer term, we're considering a reading plans / Courses merger.

    In the interim Phil, could you look at the other thread and take note of some parallel thoughts.

    I replied over there with some of the things we're investigating.

  • Reuben Helmuth
    Reuben Helmuth MVP Posts: 2,485

    Longer term, we're considering a reading plans / Courses merger.

    Is this still on the table?

  • Adam Borries (Logos)
    Adam Borries (Logos) Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 937

    Longer term, we're considering a reading plans / Courses merger.

    Is this still on the table?

    It's still on the table for the long term, but it's not on the roadmap for the foreseeable future.

  • tjebme
    tjebme Member Posts: 193 ✭✭✭