"no licence to view" something I'm viewing now

Milkman
Milkman Member Posts: 4,880 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

L4 informs me that I don't have a licence to view an article in JETS and I have to purchase it. That's not a problem, however, I have JETS and am viewing now. Any idea if this is a glitch or something else?

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  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    Looking at my copy of JETS the resource ID is LLS:gs_jets_30

    If Resource IDs are case sensitive this could indicate that the link is wrong...

  • Milkman
    Milkman Member Posts: 4,880 ✭✭✭

    if it is case sensitive, then how can it be fixed?

  • Milkman
    Milkman Member Posts: 4,880 ✭✭✭

    scolling down to another note and try to open it (Trinity Journal 5) same thing occurs. Can't view it because no licence but I can open it because I do have the journals.

  • Milkman
    Milkman Member Posts: 4,880 ✭✭✭

    it seems that in every case I get the same message. Every journal that is referred to in a sub-note or otherwise can not be opened by the link. I wonder if this is an issue in The Expositor's B. Comm.? I'm in Vol. 1 of the Commentary. I'll see if this happens in the other volumns.

    I'm not sure if this problem will occur when linking to a non-journal resource. I'll have to check it out.

    How should this be reported and I wonder if anyone else is experiencing the same thing.

  • Milkman
    Milkman Member Posts: 4,880 ✭✭✭
  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is very strange.

    I don't have JETS, and I get the same error message you're getting. I suppose it make more sense that I should get it, because I don't have a license to view that resource. But it is very odd that this comes up, because:

    1) To my knowledge, Logos has not been putting in advertisements to buy additional resources from within L4; if that's what this is, it seems to be a new turn of events. A welcome one, because we'd been asking for that. But...

    2) It's not a very helpful:

    a)  It gives you a resource ID, but you can't select it, so you have to type it in again manually (and check back to be sure you didn't have any typos) over on the logos.com site that the link takes you to.

    b) When you search for that resource ID on logos.com you come up with nil.

    What's the point of this error message if it doesn't actually help me to get the resource I don't have?

    As far as I am aware, other links to resources we don't have do not bring up such an error message. In fact, I'm not sure they even show up as links if we don't have the resources (could someone confirm this? I have too big of a library and can't think of anything that might be linked to from within one of my books which would be a resource I don't have).

    Perhaps this is a new experiment (in response to user requests) that isn't quite hatched yet. It wasn't mentioned in any of the Beta release notes.

  • Robert G. Mettler
    Robert G. Mettler Member Posts: 195 ✭✭

    I have encountered a similar situation in Muller’s Post-Reformation Dogmatics Vol. 2 (note 268 on page 209) that links to Calvin’s Commentary for 1 Cor. 3:11. I have the Calvin 500 collection but the link seems to be to the AGES Collection of the commentaries. I get the message “Unknown Resource: LLS:AS_CA1CO” when I click on the link. ( I am using Libronix 3). Where there are different versions of resources this could be a problem. I do not know if this problem occurs elsewhere in this resource.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    I have encountered a similar situation in Muller’s Post-Reformation Dogmatics Vol. 2 (note 268 on page 209) that links to Calvin’s Commentary for 1 Cor. 3:11. I have the Calvin 500 collection but the link seems to be to the AGES Collection of the commentaries. I get the message “Unknown Resource: LLS:AS_CA1CO” when I click on the link. ( I am using Libronix 3). Where there are different versions of resources this could be a problem. I do not know if this problem occurs elsewhere in this resource.


    Yup, you may be right. I have both the Calvin 500 collection and the Ages Collection. Clicking that link opens AS_CA1CO.lbxlls for me. I'm using Logos 4.

  • Robert G. Mettler
    Robert G. Mettler Member Posts: 195 ✭✭

    Yup, you may be right. I have both the Calvin 500 collection and the Ages Collection. Clicking that link opens AS_CA1CO.lbxlls for me. I'm using Logos 4.

     

    Where one resource predates another resource Logos has an overwhelming job of keeping reference links co-ordinated. I am wondering if the PRD vols. will be updated when and if Bullinger's Decades are released as there are many references to them there as well as other resources (Heppe ect.) not yet available.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Where one resource predates another resource Logos has an overwhelming job of keeping reference links co-ordinated. I am wondering if the PRD vols. will be updated when and if Bullinger's Decades are released as there are many references to them there as well as other resources (Heppe ect.) not yet available.

     

    Another thing compounding the difficulty is that some users might have only the older version of a resource like Calvin's commentaries, and others might have only the newer version. Yet both will want to be able to click on links to this book from elsewhere in their library and have them work. And a user who has both versions might want to be able to set which version is the default for links. How do you make a link that will be smart enough to jump to either version, and the newer version if the user has both (or the preferred version if you're going to give the user that level of control)? I'm sure it's a solvable problem, but I don't think it is something they have implemented yet. They'd have to rework all the links in all their massive catalogue of resources if they changed the internal link syntax to allow this kind of smarts. Unless they were forward-thinking at the time they first invented the syntax and made it expandable for just such possible eventualities.

  • Robert G. Mettler
    Robert G. Mettler Member Posts: 195 ✭✭

    Another thing compounding the difficulty is that some users might have only the older version of a resource like Calvin's commentaries, and others might have only the newer version.

     

    All the more reason for Logos 4 to improve their library so a person can tell what resources they have, more like what was available in Libronix 3. If you don't know what resources you own you can have difficulty using  them; even with good searching.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,103

    Milkman said:

    How should this be reported and I wonder if anyone else is experiencing the same thing.

    Various issues with Galaxie Journals/resources have been reported & collated at

    http://wiki.logos.com/Bug$3a_Various_issues_with_downloading_of_Galaxie_files

    The issue is confirmed by Logos with this comment:

    "We have pulled the resources with UPPERCASE IDs from the Logos 4 update
    server (which should prevent the extra downloads); once we have
    collected the correct resources, we will upload them to the update
    server."

    Dave
    ===

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