Flat Earth Anyone: ONE HUNDRED PROOFS

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  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭

    just curious is there any web site that explains

    Not a LOGOS question!

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  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭

    Do you know what is UU position on

    Also NOT a Logos question

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,403

    Do you know what is UU position on Spiritual Intelligence?

    No question about my personal knowledge is answerable in Logos. However, the link I gave you includes several position papers. That should show you what types of issues they take positions on. 

    original answer - shortened:

    1. First use Logos to identify position papers - read them to understand the time frame in which position papers have been written by which denominations and on what topics.

    2. Use Logos to compare position papers to creedal statements to see how denominations use creedal statements to support position papers and to what extent they write position papers on topics outside their creedal statements.

    3. Use Logos to understand the creedal statements of the Unitarian Universalists.

    4. Use Logos to understand the concepts behind spiritual intelligence and it's use. How does it fit into the various subtopics in theology as Logos theological ontology describes them?

    5.. Now look for recent position papers by the Unitarian Universalist - recent being after 1997 when the concept of spiritual intelligence was first named. Logos does not try to maintain current position papers so you'll have to go back to the initial web site.

    6. Now apply reason to the data you have collected ... what denominations are most likely to have written position on spiritual intelligence? Does that list include Unitarian Universalists? It so, why? If not, why not?

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  • Calvin Habig
    Calvin Habig Member Posts: 439 ✭✭

    (Thank you MJ for MAKING the UU question a Logos question.  Well played!)

  • Hamilton Ramos
    Hamilton Ramos Member Posts: 1,033

    Excellent answer MJ thanks, this is what I am talking about, get enough information to leverage L9 (tools, products, etc.)

    from another post I wrote:

    Then we have the term discussing, to me is different from mentioning something for further research. Discussing is actually engaging in giving arguments to prove a point, which is very different from mentioning some issues that may aid in better search using Logos (tools), getting better resources (products), promoting critical thinking (for edification), etc.

    From the guidelines we can tell that intent is as important as object. If a person is trying to help persons leverage their L9, how can that be guideline violation?

    Underlying question: how can key issues in certain topics  be made explicit for further research, finding of relevant resources, etc. without causing polemics, nor violating guidelines?

     I am not here to say that my accepted theological / practical ministry constructs are better, but to  allow others to speak their mind and discover new angles through their particular faith journey's experiences for edification and enlargement of conceptual framework, big difference.

    Peace and grace.

  • Hamilton Ramos
    Hamilton Ramos Member Posts: 1,033

    Not a LOGOS question!

    How can one judge the usefulness / accuracy of a Logos offered resource if one does not have background information about official beliefs in a particular group one has no knowledge about?

    If someone knows trusted sources that one can explore, then one can for oneself decide which logos products are more useful to explore certain particular topics uncovered by the background information.

    Some others may have no interest at all to explore other traditions, but some do want to check all and retain what is good. 

    Is not that allowed by Logos offering packages for different traditions?

  • Hamilton Ramos
    Hamilton Ramos Member Posts: 1,033

    Also NOT a Logos question

    Logos has resources about spiritual intelligence.

    Logos has resources about UU.

    I am not a professional researcher, but MJ kindly pointed a way to do own analysis (advanced in my view) to leverage L9 for studies, exploration and understanding.

    Part of that is why MJ is so loved, she has patience and understands that we are not all at high level performance, and kindly shows ways to up the skills of users.

    That is invaluable in my view, and part of the reason why I participate in the forums, not to cause polemics or make people uncomfortable, but to discover new exploration venues available for the use of Logos software.

  • Jamie Cain
    Jamie Cain Member Posts: 5

    I have read the book and I actually do see where anything was proven wrong with his claims. His claims were all based on provable and repeatable science. I would challenge anyone to show what test and claims he has made to be wrong and why. Every solid scripture believing Christian should believe Biblical Cosmology as presented from scripture and not from science so falsely called.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,403

    I doubt I'll ever be able to think of abductive logic (science) as god … there are too many attractive alternative logics. And yes, there is a flat earther in my extended family. No, the Alexandrian librarian Eratosthenes of Cyrene doesn't hold much weight with them.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."