Logos 8 Wishlist

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  • Rick Brannan (Logos)
    Rick Brannan (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,862

    Ben said:

    When I print, I want it to **select subsections by default**. Right now, i have to drill down two or three layers and manually check every box or it just prints the header

    Did you know that if you right-click the header section in the print/export dialog, you can "select all" and it will select the child sections? That's not what you're asking for, but it is speedier than the individual clicks.

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  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭

    Did you know that if you right-click the header section in the print/export dialog, you can "select all" and it will select the child sections? That's not what you're asking for, but it is speedier than the individual clicks.

    I right-clicked all over the header, the complete dialog box and half of Kansas and nothing like select-all pops up. Where do we right-click?  

    [Edit] Oh!  It's a little bit tricky and part by part, but like this:

  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭

    ... I did not know that [:O]

    Still think it's odd to not have it selected by default.

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  • Lee
    Lee Member Posts: 1,148 ✭✭

    Phil Gons, 

    It would be nice if Logos would think about changing the way Logos is installed to the folder "Logos4".

    Why is it that this folder can't just be named "Logos"?



    alabama24 | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 26 2017 12:09 AM




    image Ben:

    which inexplicably reside in a "Logos 4" folder.


    FL made a poor design choice MANY years ago, which impacts installations in the present. Because of this, even brand new installations must go into a folder named "Logos 4." ...

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  • Fr Devin Roza
    Fr Devin Roza MVP Posts: 2,425

    Here's my top 4 wishlist, in order of preference:

    1. Structured categories in the new notes system to transform Logos and Verbum into a true Knowledge Management software for preachers and teachers.

    2. Atlas with a single vector map per time period, with layers, and then just preconfigured selections of those layers to create Bible-passage-specific maps.

    3. Simplify advanced searching. We should be able to add any and all advanced search syntax by simply selecting it from a dropdown menu on the search panel, at most with the need to simply filter by typing (e.g. which person we want to select who is speaking to create {Speaker <Person Moses>}). 

    4. Mobile personal books. Ideally with epub, mobi, PDF, but at least personal books. If Amazon can allow mobile personal books, so can you.

    Each of these would be game changers and major upgrades to the software. 

  • Myke Harbuck
    Myke Harbuck Member Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭

    Typos we report could go to a Notes document, so we can have a list of typos reported, and be able to count them. We could also have a reference to check back every so often to see of they have been updated (or not). 

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  • Myke Harbuck
    Myke Harbuck Member Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭

    When a pane is only covering half (or less than all) of the available Logos screen real estate, permitting a double click on the title to expand the pane to cover all of the real estate would be nice. Likewise, double clicking again to restore to previous view of that pane would also be nice. 

    Myke Harbuck
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    Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,403 ✭✭✭✭

    [quote]

    alabama24 | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 26 2017 12:09 AM

     Ben: which inexplicably reside in a "Logos 4" folder.

    FL made a poor design choice MANY years ago, which impacts installations in the present. Because of this, even brand new installations must go into a folder named "Logos 4." ...

    One of the early post-Libby  design secrets, was housing the 'molassas' switch in the Logos 4 folder.  This allowed smart users to delete the speed governor, mainly for demonstrations of prowess  at the time.  Unfortunately, the switch was never removed, when newer versions used the older folder. Ironic as it seems today.

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  • Jesse Blevins
    Jesse Blevins Member Posts: 639 ✭✭

    [:D]

    I completely agree with Fr Devin Roza. 

    I especially like your idea for advanced searching. 

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,127

    Lee said:

    Why is it that this folder can't just be named "Logos"?

    It is, on Windows. [:D]

    (I don't remember the details, but I believe it was sufficiently complicated to change the folder name for existing Mac installations that it wasn't worth doing it for a minor cosmetic change that most users will never see.)

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭

    Here's my top 4 wishlist, in order of preference:

    1. Structured categories in the new notes system to transform Logos and Verbum into a true Knowledge Management software for preachers and teachers.

    2. Atlas with a single vector map per time period, with layers, and then just preconfigured selections of those layers to create Bible-passage-specific maps.

    3. Simplify advanced searching. We should be able to add any and all advanced search syntax by simply selecting it from a dropdown menu on the search panel, at most with the need to simply filter by typing (e.g. which person we want to select who is speaking to create {Speaker <Person Moses>}). 

    4. Mobile personal books. Ideally with epub, mobi, PDF, but at least personal books. If Amazon can allow mobile personal books, so can you.

    Each of these would be game changers and major upgrades to the software. 

    Fr Roza has elegantly put forth his argument for new features and I would welcome there implementation as he has outlined. When I think of my own interaction with the software my preferences would emphasize Search and organization. So my own wishlist looks like this.

    1. Simplify advanced searching.
    2. Extend fuzzy search to the rest of the library while keeping them separate and distinct as in Bible and Basic.
    3. Implement the upgrading of the organization of note taking as planned.
    4. Speed up the functionality of the software not just upon loading.

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  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭

    Lee said:

    FL made a poor design choice MANY years ago, which impacts installations in the present. Because of this, even brand new installations must go into a folder named "Logos 4." ...

    If you remove Logos and re-install on Windows (or do an original new install) you can get the highly coveted "Logos" directory.   If you copy all your files over from the old installation it goes pretty quick.  However, your PB original file database may be ruined.  I was so happy the day I discovered that after having to do a Windows recovery.

  • Andrew116
    Andrew116 Member Posts: 155 ✭✭

    Steve Jobs saved Apple by choosing only the core things and doing them very, very well. Their products don't have the most features, but they have features people actually want and use; and those features work better than anyone else's. 

    That is to say, the people who identified speed and usability... they are on the money. 

    I know Logos has, in the past, sought to motivate upgrades and purchases by promoting the "10,000 new features!!!!" of the new version. In my opinion, Logos has pretty much all the features I could ever want. (Except a better atlas, and systematic theologies integrated into facebook)

    What will really help me is if the program became snappier, especially that sluggish right click menu, and populating of guides etc.

    Make the program help people more, and it will sell - regardless of the number of new features. So, speed and usability. 

    EDIT: I should say, there have been great steps in this direction already in the last 12 months. "so more and more", as Paul would say

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    I wish FL to make Logos program more efficient, speedier, more responsive.  I am not asking for more bells and whistles.  I am asking for all that already exists to be done better...

    1. creating favorites folders is easy, but it could be more efficient. 

    2. Personal book builder is wonderful.  But could be better by allowing user created content to be accessed on mobile phones and tablets, and by allowing users to permanently delete old versions and files no longer wanted or needed.  Personal books that are edited and recreated could have a maximum saving of 3 older versions for example. 

    3. I love the search engine, but it could be more efficient.  Make searching easier so that users do not need to remember so many signs and symbols to do a search. 

    4. I love the library, but it is so difficult to organize.  Surely there can be a more efficient way for users to organize what they have.

    5.  The program has great features, but is not very touch friendly.  This surely would enhance our experience of what already we have

    6. The basic free program was a great idea that took too long to come to reality.  But there is so much available for free already.  Why not add that to the basic free engine?  If you have a good basic free program, it will entice customers to purchase books, and Bibles.

    7. In the days of Libronix (L3), you had a really good business model.  I understand why it needed to be abandoned, though the way it was done was one of the big mistakes made.  Could it not be possible to revisit the idea of content created by other companies that could be sold in the Logos program?  Could it not be revisited to have a business model where this would actually work and bring in revenue for FL?

    This thread is going to get longer.  Hopefully it will bring about a sense of what the customer wants.  Please think about taking what you already have and find ways to make it more efficient, snappier.  The KISS model (keep it simple stupid) should always be in the forefront of developer's thinking.  Remember Windows touted in one of their operating systems that it has a million lines of code?  It was one of the worst OS Microsoft put out.  Keep it simple.  Make what you have better before taking on new projects.  Revisit promises of the past and if those promises are not going to be kept, let us know why, and move forward.  But dont move forward without telling us why a promise will not be kept. 

  • Willie
    Willie Member Posts: 181 ✭✭

    What are the most important things we should address to make Logos a better tool for you?

    For Logos Desktop, please allow users to customize an opened resource panel according to their own visual needs in the following specific areas (listed in order of priority):

    1. Resource Panel Toolbar
    2. Bible book cover icons
    3. Link Set   

    Resource Panel Toolbar

    problem:  As feature buttons are added to the Resource Panel Toolbar not only does the toolbar’s already cluttered appearance become worse, but depending upon a person’s particular eye sensitivities, the likelihood increases that one of the new button designs can be especially distracting.   

    A prime example of a distracting toolbar button for me personally is the Multiview Resources button.  Its busy three vertical line design seems to my eyes to dominate the other buttons on the toolbar as well as the entire panel.  It is so distracting that it has prevented me from comfortably focusing on the resource text below it.  To avoid this distraction, I reluctantly had to return my purchase of the L-7 Full Feature Set and cancel plans to purchase a Logos Now subscription as well as an L-7 base package. 

    I am aware of the Reading View mode.  It is one of my favorite program features, but it does not adequately address this problem.  It can only be opened as a single panel in a full screen mode and many program functions cannot be accessed directly from it.  

    suggestions:  Please consider any one or combination of the following suggestions:  

    1. Hide entire top row of Resource Panel elements: 

    Provide a single mouse click option to hide the row of Resource Panel elements located beneath the Panel Tab and above the Locator Bar (book cover icon, reference box, resource panel toolbar, back/forward arrows, history drop-down, and resource info button) while working within a normal multi-tiled workspace.  A second mouse click would turn off the hide option. 

    This would essentially provide a non-full screen “reading view” within a normal size panel of a multi-tiled workspace.  It would hide any distracting toolbar button, eliminate toolbar clutter, and increase reading space while maintaining the functionality of all hidden panel elements (including toolbar buttons) only one click away.

    2. Hide only Resource Panel Toolbar: 

    Provide a single mouse click option to hide the Resource Panel Toolbar while working within a normal multi-tiled workspace.  All panel elements to the right or left of the toolbar would remain (i.e., book cover icon, reference box, etc.).  A second mouse click would turn off the hide option. 

    This would hide any distracting toolbar button, eliminate toolbar clutter, and maintain the functionality of all hidden toolbar buttons only one click away.

    3. Hide individual buttons: 

    Add an option to hide any individual button within the Resource Panel Toolbar which is visually distracting, seldom used, or routinely accessed through another means (such as a context menu).

    This could be done by adding a section within the Program Settings and/or Panel Menu with “on/off” choices for each toolbar button.  (see Uservoice section below for link which provides more detailed explanation and important examples.)

    4. Select buttons from a set: 

    Although any one of the default Resource Panel Toolbar buttons could be used, one would not be forced to accept these and could instead select any button from a set of available choices in the same manner as is currently done with the Shortcut Bar.     

    The set of choices could include one with an empty design which if selected would result in a hidden button.  This could be used for any toolbar feature that is seldom used or routinely accessed through another means.

    5. Change current Multiview Resources button:  

    Changing the current Multiview Resources button on the Resource Panel Toolbar to a less distracting button design is urgently needed and would be greatly appreciated, but rather than being implemented alone, this change should be made in addition to one or more of the suggestions listed above which all permit some form of user controlled customization including the hiding of one or all toolbar buttons.

    uservoice links:

    forum links:

    Bible Book Cover Icons

    problem:  Several Bible book cover icons (especially the ESV and LEB) are so bright and annoying they prevent me from comfortably focusing on Bible text.

    suggestions:  Please consider any one or combination of the following suggestions:

    1. Hide book cover icons: 

    Provide users with a program setting to hide or "turn off" book cover icons when a resource is opened.  This would include Bibles and non-Bible resources.  (The Panel Tab already identifies the resource.)

     2. Add custom book cover icons: 

    Allow users to add their own Bible book cover icons and to share the icons they add with other users.

     3. Select generic grey icons: 

    Allow users to individually switch to a generic grey Bible book cover icon if they prefer (such as currently used for several clause visualization resources).

    uservoice links:

    Link Set

    problem:  The extreme bright orange color currently used for the Link Set indicator box is very distracting.

    suggestions:  Please consider any one or combination of the following suggestions:

    1. Customize color: 

    Allow users to customize the color of the Link Set indicator box as well as the font color of the letter inside.

    2. Move to Resource Panel Menu: 

    Replace the Link Set indicator box with a visual indicator within the Link Set section of the Resource Panel Menu.

    3. Change default color: 

    Change the Link Set indicator box's default appearance to a more neutral, less distracting color (such as grey).

    uservoice link:

  • David Paul
    David Paul Member Posts: 6,074 ✭✭✭

    I've been overwhelmed and underimpressed with the whiz-bang bells and whistles that began with L4. However, for those who are decrying their constant and consistent implementation, I wouldn't expect any let up any time soon. Features are $BANK for FL, because they don't have licensing or residuals costs attached to them. FL pockets all the income that features updates produce...which is good for them, but of no consequence for me. I have a short laundry list of wants that has existed since the first week that L4 came out, and today it is pretty much as long as it was back then. Since Bob was nice enough to come on the forum and personally shoot down pretty much every one of the desires I have in order, I have simply learned to grind my teeth in quiet solitude (except for an occasional and increasingly less common forum rant).

    However, I did find something to be ever so slightly hopeful about in this thread, in that a few others have now voiced a desire for a couple of things I previously pleaded for. One is a "drop down history" button, such as are found on most web browsers and which actually existed in L3.

    Bob called them "clutter". For me, they are utterly indispensable, which is one of many reasons I still use L3 as my primary Logos vehicle. They get used constantly, all day, every day. Another thing I've seen requested above is a larger note window. In the ancient chisel and hammer days of L3, the note window could be as large as your screen...

    What you see above is a screen-sized pop-up note that appears in L3 when the cursor hovers over the note's icon...and you can't replicate this effect in L6 or L7 either. It would be fabulous if this was made possible in L8, but I won't hold my breath. The ultra-tiny keyhole window that exists for pop-up notes now was a conscious decision that (giving Bob the benefit of the doubt) some underlings managed to convince Bob was a good idea. The reason was because instantaneously appearing, ultra-large, information-rich notes, such as shown above, covered the underlying text. So rather than, you know, MOVING THE CURSOR by a millimeter in any direction to make the offending pop-up disappear, the ability to have a vast trove of material appear on your screen instantaneously to serve whatever purpose you might have was scuttled as "a bad idea"...ironically becoming one of the worst ideas in human history. Now we are considered lucky to have the genius of the "totally inoffensive" and frozen-in-size keyhole note window, which nearly never shows all the info you wish to see without the obnoxious requirement of clicking on the note and opening a whole new window, when an otherwise simple "hover and go" would have accomplished everything you wanted. Ah, progress!!

    Something that was included in L3...but only for Logos/FL-created notes [8o|], such as footnotes...was a pinnable note that had a scrolling function. If that user-available feature could be combined with an adjustable window, you could basically create a library in each note you make. Adding these two functions would go a LONG way toward allowing me to comfortably say goodbye to L3. But since I don't expect them to materialize, it doesn't really matter to me what bells and whistles L8 has; they won't get used by me.

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  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    One is a "drop down history" button, such as are found on most web browsers

    I have also called for drop down lists...they are very useful.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Feel free to include web and mobile feedback as well.

    I have come to really enjoy listening to audiobooks in the car. I would like more audio bibles for sale, but the BIG new feature would be the ability to listen to your bible reading plan automatically (i.e. It would follow the reading plan from the first reading to the last reading without user input). 

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  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,127

    Mark said:

    One is a "drop down history" button, such as are found on most web browsers

    I have also called for drop down lists...they are very useful.

    A drop-down list for "Back" history already exists; click the black triangle to the right of the Back/Forward buttons.

    This UserVoice suggestion is marked as completed: https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-7/suggestions/3394880-right-cick-history-go-back-forward 

  • Justin Gatlin
    Justin Gatlin Member, MVP Posts: 2,244

    Ben said:

    When I print, I want it to **select subsections by default**. Right now, i have to drill down two or three layers and manually check every box or it just prints the header

    Did you know that if you right-click the header section in the print/export dialog, you can "select all" and it will select the child sections? That's not what you're asking for, but it is speedier than the individual clicks.

    Woah. I wish I had known that sooner. "Select All" would be a nice default in L8, though. I can't imagine that people normally do not want subsections.

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    A drop-down list for "Back" history already exists;

    That seems to be a drop down list of history in one particular resource, and disappears when the resource is closed. This is not what I am talking about.  Please tell me you understood that.

    And I am also talking about drop down lists in general...like you would find in a web browser. 

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,127

    Mark said:

    A drop-down list for "Back" history already exists;

    That seems to be a drop down list of history in one particular resource, and disappears when the resource is closed. This is not what I am talking about.  Please tell me you understood that.

    And I am also talking about drop down lists in general...like you would find in a web browser. 

    I don't understand how this feature is dissimilar from the drop-down list that appears when the Back button in a web browser tab is right-clicked, and disappears when the tab is closed.

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    A browser is one full tab.  You can open many tabs in a browser and all the history will be seen regardless of what tab you are using.  In Logos, you can have 10 different resources open (ten tabs).  Each of these tabs currently has a drop down history list.  But there is no one central drop down history list showing all that you worked on during that session.

    A browser has a button also that shows you history of the use of the browser for the past 24 hours or 7 days or 30 days....users can erase that history if they choose.  I am unaware of any such possibility in Logos...to see our own history of what we have been doing, what resources were brought up, searches we did etc.  No record that I am aware of that exists for us to return to. Records that show what books were added to the library in the past two months. 

    Do you see the difference?

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,500

    Mark said:

    I am unaware of any such possibility in Logos...to see our own history of what we have been doing, what resources were brought up, searches we did etc.  No record that I am aware of that exists for us to return to.

    Try "History" in the Tools menu.

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  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for that, Andrew.  Did not know about that.  So that is helpful to me.

    I can link it to the menu bar which is also nice.  But it would be nicer if it could be a drop down, along with other drop downs.

    But thanks for pointing this out

  • Andrew116
    Andrew116 Member Posts: 155 ✭✭

    Further on the theme of 'don't give us new features, make the program better to use'...

    Frequently I look things up in topic guide and factbook and find no results, or very limited results, even though dictionaries in my library do have entries on exactly that topic. 

    For example, yesterday I looked up the Council of Nicea. It returned 2 journal articles (great!) and nothing else.  It should have found at least some of the following: (but it didn't)

    So 1 thing on my wishlist is that Factbook better helps me find the things I already have. As I said before, it doesn't sound as good in marketing language as '10,000 new features'... but when people find the software really helpful, they will tell their friends / peers... it will sell. 

  • Veli Voipio
    Veli Voipio MVP Posts: 2,076

    Andrew116 said:

    Further on the theme of 'don't give us new features, make the program better to use'...

    Also beware that existing excellent functionality will not accidentally become lost, since that may not boost sales,

    see  https://community.logos.com/forums/p/148119/928192.aspx#928192 

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  • Rod Rogers
    Rod Rogers Member Posts: 54 ✭✭

    I have been critical of Logos/Libronix more than I like but I do feel for you Mike. If Libronix is going to charge top dollar for their product, they should produce a top quality product. I do think it would be more productive if we asked will a little more grace and a little less salt. Believe me, I'm not casting stones, just woke up a little more mellow than usual this morning. While I agree with what you asked for I would, add being able to read your personal books wifi. How many times have we been out away from our pc and wanted to read one of our personal books. That and rehauling the search interface would do wonders for sales I believe.

  • Jeremiah
    Jeremiah Member Posts: 399 ✭✭

    1-touch basic functionality:

    Please at least make touch work so I can copy and paste from resources to my notes files.

    When I select with stylus or finger I am not able to get the (copy) option to appear.

    Non-touch related:

    2-the popup menu for us note takers would be nice to have the "add to notes file" appear before all of the items which are requiring background work/searching to complete before they populate. My machine is fairly fast modern i7 ssd, etc. but there can be delays just waiting to get to the "add to notes" or "add to clippings" simply because those are some of the last items to populate on the pop up menu.

    If they were listed first, then no need to wait for the other things to complete their background tasks bottle necking the population of the static items.

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  • Jeremiah
    Jeremiah Member Posts: 399 ✭✭

    Weekly torah portions like a lectionary for Jews / Messianics I saw in the forums some time ago. 

    Also for the weekly psalms reading (all the psalms are read weekly in Jewish custom).

    That would be nice.

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  • Jeremiah
    Jeremiah Member Posts: 399 ✭✭

    In Hebrew language Old Testament the "1 verse per line" doesn't really do anything when you deselect it.

    Other users told me it works in New Testament in Hebrew but not in Old Testament. When you deselect "1 verse per line" the font of the verse number changes size and nothing else happens. 

    Here is a post with much discussion I made on this with pictures and such.

    How to make Hebrew bible text wrap, *not* 1 verse per line?

    since this works in other languages and other testaments for the same language, seems this is a usability BUG. 

    Love Logos just would like to have this working when you can.

    Thanks!

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  • Phil Miller
    Phil Miller Member Posts: 42 ✭✭✭


    Desktop Version:

    • Library hierarchy and filtering    (UserVoice)
    • MacBook Pro TouchBar support    (UserVoice)
    • Book-Chapter-Verse Quick-Select    (UserVoice)
    • Categories in the prioritization panel    (UserVoice)
  • John Duffy
    John Duffy Member Posts: 591 ✭✭✭

    Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but it would be good to either fix the Find feature (Ctrl+F in Windows) in a resource tab, or remove it altogether. In the past I have noted on the forum that it does not work, and have been told that it is not designed to work properly on phrases (more than one word). But recently I have found repeatedly that it doesn't work using just a single word in the find box either - it skips many instances of the word being searched. I have to use a Search tab to do the most basic searches for a word. That isn't a problem, although it is more cumbersome. But the Find feature just isn't working properly and gives misleading results. Please fix it (ideally), or remove it. :)

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    either fix the Find feature (Ctrl+F in Windows) in a resource tab, or remove it altogether

    I thought it was working.  Perhaps it does not work well.  I dont know.  But it is a really important feature that should work and work well

  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭

    Jeremiah said:

    touch basic functionality:

    Please at least make touch work so I can copy and paste from resources to my notes files.

    When I select with stylus or finger I am not able to get the (copy) option to appear.

    [Y] (I know I posted WAY earlier in the thread, but am liking this post so that readers who do not go back to beginning of the thread will see that several users want this feature).

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  • Follow-up to a discussion in Faithlife group "Morris Proctors Seminars" => https://faithlife.com/mpseminars/activity 

    Nathan said:

    IMPORTANT: When it comes to creating Logos books, almost everything worth reading is a PDF, requiring a conversion to Word. Unfortunately, PDF to Word conversion programs invert the Hebrew. This means the Logos user has to spend hours recreating the Hebrew in Word before uploading to Logos... or forgo adding any PDFs to Logos books. Can Logos help with this by either allowing for direct PDF to Logos book upload or creating a Logos PDF to Word app inside Logos that keeps the original languages intact?

    ...

    There needs to be a Logos PDF to Word converter or Logos needs to have the ability to go straight from PDF to Logos Personal Books. Outside converters reverse the Hebrew making the book unusable inside Logos. Maybe the solution is not even a personal book but a Logos PDF reader that will allow attaching the PDF to Scripture. All the best sir! Idk, just trying to help. I know the issue is more complicated than that. God bless.

    Faithlife already includes Chromium Embedded Framework (CEF) in desktop applications. CEF has PDF viewer so idea of "attaching" pdf to verse(s) for viewing in Logos is intriguing.

    FYI: discussion included a link from Nathan to a dissertation pdf at Marquette. Prince 9.0 (with cascading style sheets) was used to create pdf. Initial attempt to convert pdf using LibreOffice 5.4.2 Draw replicated Hebrew directional issue (left to right instead of right to left).

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  • Myke Harbuck
    Myke Harbuck Member Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭

    Can FL provide a quick button / icon on Bibles, possibly next to the parallel resources icon, for the handy, but not well known, quick comparison feature. The feature is accessed by FUNC + F7 now (on Mac), but I can never remember that keyboard shortcut. A quick access button somewhere would be nice. 

    Myke Harbuck
    Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
    Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

  • Myke Harbuck
    Myke Harbuck Member Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭

    Could FL provide a more robust set of options for assigning shortcuts to highlighting, and then provide better access to those shortcuts. 

    Right now, 1-9 and A-Z are it. 

    Perhaps permitting a OPTION +  or  SHIFT+CONTROL option with each of these. For example. I use B for blue. A OPTION+B could then be used for another "B" color, such as Brown. 

    And the ability to change the Highlighting pane to a thinner (very thin) pane that just lists the assigned shortcut keys (and perhaps an assigned graphic / icon) for most recently used styles, like this:

    or this

    This would use very little landscape, but would allow quick access to our preferred highlighting styles. 

    Myke Harbuck
    Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
    Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

  • Myke Harbuck
    Myke Harbuck Member Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭

    Please permit Preferred Resource Sections, so one can easily tell what resources they have "preferred" for each section, and can also tell when they have no resources preferred for a particular resource type (IE: Dictionaries).  

    Perhaps each section can be outlined (like below), with a flyover label of the preferred resource section when hovering over it. 

    Or perhaps there can just be a bold section heading for each resource type, and users can just drag resources to the right section, like so:

    PREFERRED BIBLES

    Esv

    KJV

    COMMENTARIES

    NIV Application Commentary

    Courson's Applicaiton

    DICTIONARIES

    Strongs

    Vines

    CALENDAR DEVOTIONS

    "None Assigned; Drag resources here to add them to this sections" (or the sections could just be blank)

    Myke Harbuck
    Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
    Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

  • James Hudson
    James Hudson Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭

    Mobile App: Apple Watch

    Just been fortunate enough to have an Apple Watch purchased for me.

    Unfortunately there appears to be no Logos app available for it (it does have Olive Tree, You Version etc etc, but no Logos).

    Hence a new wish would be to have an Apple Watch compatible app.

    Thanks

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    It would be good if the resources would be  arranged with denomination. This may make easier to choose which resources to purchase, by not taking to much time to go through to identify the resources. 

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Myke Harbuck
    Myke Harbuck Member Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    What would the app do? 

    Perhaps a verse of the day notification? Im not aware of another app currently offering a verse of the day pushed to Watch OS. Perhaps there is, but Im not aware. 

    Also, perhaps a reminder of overdue prayer lists and reading plans? 

    Just thinking out loud. 

    One thing for sure...Watch integration would be GREAT with Proclaim, for advancing to the next slide with a swipe. 

    Myke Harbuck
    Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
    Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

  • James Hudson
    James Hudson Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    What would the app do? 

    The possibilities are endless (Olive Tree and You Version have found lots and I'm sure Logos developers could think of more!)

    Off the top of my head here's 10 for a start:

    1. Read a passage of Scripture

    2. Search for a text (simple CTRL-F offline type search not a full power search (yet!) - but perhaps fuzzy search)

    3. Prayer List, update, reminders 

    4. Dictate a note (using Siri)

    5. Show reading plans related to bible (e.g. Psalm of the Day)

    6. Scripture memorisation (a la Navigators Topical Memory System cards back in the day)

    7. Greek/Hebrew word flash cards (like Logos Flashcard app)

    8. Purchase resources / see Pre-pubs

    9. Various pop-up reminders (prayer list, memorisation, custom)

    10. Greek / hebrew word look-up

    (Well, that's actually 9 since number 9 is really a repetition!)

    Thanks for asking and helping me think it through a little more...now I definitely want it to happen!!

  • Theo Rios
    Theo Rios Member Posts: 28 ✭✭

    To be able to have our "Personal Books" in the cloud. We would be able to have them in all our devices.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Theo Rios said:

    To be able to have our "Personal Books" in the cloud. We would be able to have them in all our devices.

    Due to the same reasons why they won't be coming to mobile, I would be surprised to see them in the cloud. You can, however, upload compiled files and sync to other desktop installations. 

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  • Hebrew & Aramaic audio similar to Greek NT Audio. Thread => (BHS)Hebrew audio for Genesis 1 chapter.

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  • Markus Schiller
    Markus Schiller Member Posts: 102 ✭✭
  • Bernhard
    Bernhard Member Posts: 729 ✭✭✭

    One more request for a small improvement for Personal Books. It is very helpful that Bible references are recognized automatically and turned into links. The problem is that the compiler always assumes the standard verse mapping/Bible Datatype, which leads to problems if the book is based on a Bible with a different mapping (which frequently happens with German books, see this thread for an example where it lead to confusion: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/152204.aspx). 

    The request would be to give us a way to define a default Bible datatype for the whole book, either in the settings for the book, before we compile it, or somewhere in the docx file. I know, we can already manually add the datatype to Bible references, but that can mean a lot of work, which is also hard to automate. Logos has already done that work by adding code to automatically recognize Bible references, which works quite well, even in some languages besides English. It would be really helpful if we were able to set a default Bible datatype for the book.