Disable splash screen when linking to Logos from PowerPoint
I have hyperlinked all the Bible and other resource references in my PowerPoint presentations to show the passage in Logos. It is great! My students love it! It is a much better educational experience.
However, the accreditors are coming! They will not like it when they seen the almost "subliminal" Logos splash screen show 40+ times in a class session. They will say I am marketing a commercial product! The "Logos Bible Software" at the top of the screen will not be a problem since it does not draw attention to itself. The splash screen is a problem.
How can I disable the splash screen?
Comments
-
I don't think there is (currently) a way to disable the splashs creen. But can't you start Logos up ahead of time before starting the PowerPoint presentation and before anyone is watching, and then not close it after each time you click over to it from within the presentation (just Alt+Tab back to PowerPoint and continue with the next slide)? The spash screen only comes up when Logos is launching.
0 -
Rosie Perera said:
I don't think there is (currently) a way to disable the splashs creen. But can't you start Logos up ahead of time before starting the PowerPoint presentation and before anyone is watching, and then not close it after each time you click over to it from within the presentation (just Alt+Tab back to PowerPoint and continue with the next slide)? The spash screen only comes up when Logos is launching.
Rosie, even when Logos is already running, the splash screen appears (I think because the Logos bootstrap program starts everytime). It's a valid and very needed change request.
MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540
0 -
Yes, the Alt+Tab does not display the splash, but hyperlinking does. When doing a PowerPoint presentation in front of a group hyperlinking is the only way to go.
0 -
Todd Phillips said:Rosie Perera said:
I don't think there is (currently) a way to disable the splashs creen. But can't you start Logos up ahead of time before starting the PowerPoint presentation and before anyone is watching, and then not close it after each time you click over to it from within the presentation (just Alt+Tab back to PowerPoint and continue with the next slide)? The spash screen only comes up when Logos is launching.
Rosie, even when Logos is already running, the splash screen appears (I think because the Logos bootstrap program starts everytime). It's a valid and very needed change request.
Oh, I was unaware of that. Thanks! I agree, it shouldn't do this, or should be able to be turned off.
0 -
The place to note this is http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4 where you can get the support of other users with similar needs.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
0 -
I have posted at http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4.
You can find it by just searching for "splash."
Please vote for it. I really need it and soon! [:)]
Thanks
0 -
I never understood this voting thing.....I used all my votes, I assume, on the first 4 suggestions yesterday...don't have any more....don't understand at all with all the suggestions out there....
Chuck
Laptop: Lenovo P580 - 15.6" IdeaPad Laptop
- 6GB Memory - 750GB Hard Drive - Windows 7
Iphone5s Logos 7, Bronze0 -
0
-
Chuck P. said:
I never understood this voting thing.....I used all my votes, I assume, on the first 4 suggestions yesterday
You are always able to change your votes - you have 10 votes to distribute as you wish. At the moment the voting is an experiment for Logos. The intent is to let the users have a visible input into the prioritization of additional Logos features. It is not to say that we dictate the priorities. We don't know know much work a feature is and we don't know what features can easily build onto other requested/planned features.
As users, we can see if the features we personally want are wanted by lots of people or whether its just a quirk of how we work. And rather than trying to remember how many threads a particular suggestion has had and how many people gave it a thumbs up, we have a consistent way to see the information.
Don't worry if you don't understand it now. If it works for Logos as it works for another product I use (Harmony Assistant) then how it works will become apparent in a few months.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
0 -
0
-
MJ. Smith said:
You are always able to change your votes - you have 10 votes to distribute as you wish.
I'd like to vote (once) for any feature.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
0 -
Frank Fenby said:
They will not like it when they seen the almost "subliminal" Logos splash screen show 40+ times in a class session.
Frank,
I am with you on this matter.
I am more than happy if the software does a splash on startup (once), as you can do it when noone is looking, if thats important. And few would have much issue with a program ident on first run.
However, Logos4 does it EVERY TIME it starts up.
I was attempting to write a small proof-of-concept for a user than asked here about needing an object module for Logos4, for use with his touchpad PC. He wanted a simple low-key interface to direct the screen to bible verses from some nice large buttons. See http://community.logos.com/forums/t/14621.aspx
I wrote a simple Visual Basic tool to start a new process, and pass it the link to a resource, such as libronixdls:jump|ref=bible.5.8.6|res=LLS:1.0.10
(Without an object model, I dont know of any other simple way to "drive" Logos4 from external, short of feeding it keypresses, and hoping it does the right thing. I have yet to explore directing keypresses into the command bar, from an external program. I expect that a careful use of [Control D][short delay][command][ENTER] might work if someone cares to try before I get back to it)
Well, my result was that a NEW process started every time, with a new process id, displayed a Logos splash screen, passed the link into the already running copy of Logos4, and then exited, killing that new process, and leaving the original.
After each link, then was always only one copy of Logos4, the same original one, but the new process that took the link always displayed the splash screen first.
Bottom line, I did not consider that would make an acceptable solution, so for now, have given up on developing anything more.
If the splash screen could be disabled, I would consider atempting to write a simple front end, that could link verses in a simple way, and that might then be useful to users of Logos4.
All my program would do, if I wrote it, would be to direct the main Logos4 application to bible verses, but just as for the Power Point question, the splash screen kills the idea.
Please Logos, let us turn the screen off if we wish. We already use the product, maybe we even love it at times, so let us get on with using it more please, without the splash screen.
0 -
Jim Towler said:
I expect that a careful use of [Control D][short delay][command][ENTER] might work if someone cares to try before I get back to it)
OPS - Its not Control-D, but ALT-D, that directs input to the "Command Box".
Anyway, I think I'm going to explore this idea from Visual Basic, so an external program can drive Logos4 a little.
However, I still would like:
1) An option to disable the splash screen (easy change to just add /NoSplash to commandline processing would be a great help for now)
2) An Object Model for programming (massive task I think)
0 -
Frank Fenby said:
I have hyperlinked all the Bible and other resource references in my PowerPoint presentations to show the passage in Logos.
Hi Frank,
I'm interested in seeing if I can write something simple to take your links from PowerPoint, and feed keypresses into Logos4.
It would be helpful to me, if you could please email me a simple powerpoint with a few links to Logos in it. It could be a short one that you use for real, or just 1 or 2 pages, with a few sample links. I want to be sure I'm trying the same thing you actually use, rather than something else.
Of course, if Logos added (or already has) a setting to disable the splash screen, this will be unneeded.
Anyway, a secondary email account for me, that I'm happy to risk here in public, is user "astro" which you can send me the sample file to me at my isp of "xtra.co.nz" so I am sure you can work that out.
Regards,
Jim.
0 -
OK - It Works!!!
I've written a tiny .Net Forms program for Windows, that takes whatever you send it on the command line, and types it into the Logos4 Command Box.
If I redirect the Shell Open command for Logos4, to my program, per [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\libronixdls\shell\open\command], then my program grabs the command instead, and sends it to the command box as key presses.
From PowerPoint, it works without needing to update the PowerPoint content or hyperlinks, and no Splash Screen.
However, there is a minor interaction seen with the command box, but no branding.
I would still rather have:
1) Logos to allow us to disable the slash screen
2) An Object Model into Logos4 as there is for L3
However, if this is interesting to anyone, and we dont get (1) really soon, please email me if you are interested.If it turns out to be useful, one of the folk here may be able to host it on one of their web sites.
Offered in good faith, if its useful.
Regards.
0 -
If I could ask a basic question that came from this thread: how does this interacting with PowerPoint work? What are you doing? It sounds useful, and I am not aware of this.
Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)0 -
Fred Greco said:
how does this interacting with PowerPoint work? What are you doing? It sounds useful, and I am not aware of this.
1) In L4, click on the window icon of the resource that you want to link to
2) In the drop down menu select Url. (this is a one time action, it tells L4 that you want links in the URL format)
3) Notice the keyboard command for creating a link, we will be using it later.
4) Now in PowerPoint, enter the text that you want to show for your hyperlink
5) Back in L4, position the resource to the location that you want your hyperlink to take you (e.g. the right resource and location, the location in the reference box is the precise location for the hyperlink)
6) Now on the keyboard press the key combination Ctrl + ALT + C. (L4 will create the hyperlink address in your clipboard)
7) In PowerPoint, select the text you typed. (click at beginning of your text and drag the mouse with the left button down)
8) Hold the mouse over the highlighted text and right click (a pop-up menu will appear)
9) In the pop-up menu click on hyperlink.
10) When the dialog box appears (as shown below), click in the address box. Then on your keyboard press the key combination Ctrl + V. (this is windows standard Paste command).
11) Now press the OK button. (your hyperlink is built now)
12) In the edit mode of PowerPoint, you can hold your mouse over the new hyperlink and right click. A pop-up menu will appear.
13) Select Open hyperlink. This will open L4 to your resource and it specific location.
If you run your PowerPoint slide, then when you see your hyperlink you can just click on it and it will open L4 to your location.
0 -
Fred Greco said:
If I could ask a basic question that came from this thread: how does this interacting with Power Point work? What are you doing? It sounds useful, and I am not aware of this.
Fred, I am glad you asked!
I run a hyper-interactive classroom.
I need to make a movie of how I build as use this combination Power Point/Logos stuff. Just a few notes while I learn to run the silly movie tool.
The old way that is not as interactive
- Make a regular Power Point presentation
- Copy and paste stuff from Logos into that Power Point
- Send Logos graphics directly to Power Point
- Share it with (show it to) your learners
He is new way.
- As you build a Power Point (update an old one) make all the Bible references hyperlinks (see the wiki on hyperlinking)
- You can do the same for sections from commentaries, theology books, graphics, etc. that you might want to reference in class (or your sermon?).
- In class (church) show the Power Point and click on the hyperlinks.
- As you interact with the learner and content explore other things in Logos.
One of the things I do is from the interlinear section under my Bible passage, run a word study on a keyword in the passage. One can use the parallel resources to find other articles on the subject.
Basically what I am doing is showing them how to study and learn. I am teaching them how to fish for themselves, not just merely giving them a fish.
Hope this helps.
[Edit: Steve beat me on the draw here and did a better job! Maybe I can forget the movie.]
0 -
Frank Fenby said:
[Edit: Steve beat me on the draw here and did a better job! Maybe I can forget the movie.]
sorry Frank [:(], one of the draw backs to a forum (you don't know what others are doing).
Making a movie would be very useful to others. i would have added this to the wiki, but i don't have the time today. But if you make the movie, when i add these steps to the wiki page, i will link to your movie and also add it to the wiki page for user video tutorials.
0 -
[:)] No problem! I like it when everybody gets involved. [:D]
0 -
Excellent! I like it! I will start doing this in my teaching.Frank Fenby said:He is new way.
- As you build a Power Point (update an old one) make all the Bible references hyperlinks (see the wiki on hyperlinking)
- You can do the same for sections from commentaries, theology books, graphics, etc. that you might want to reference in class (or your sermon?).
- In class (church) show the Power Point and click on the hyperlinks.
- As you interact with the learner and content explore other things in Logos.
One of the things I do is from the interlinear section under my Bible passage, run a word study on a keyword in the passage. One can use the parallel resources to find other articles on the subject.
Basically what I am doing is showing them how to study and learn. I am teaching them how to fish for themselves, not just merely giving them a fish.
0 -
Joe,
Now can you get your good buddies at Logos to stop the display of the splash screen each time we hyperlink?[:-*]
0 -
-
And yet Joe,
we cannot mark this as an official request in whatever bug/feature tracker you guys are using. I presume you can. [;)]
Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 0 -
steve clark said:
i would have added this to the wiki, but i don't have the time today. But ... when i add these steps to the wiki page...
Good, I'm glad you're already planning to add them. I was just going to say this is another excellent steve clark tutorial and should be added to the wiki.
0 -
Thomas, I am working in Ministry Development out in the field (not in the Bellingham office). I do not have any access to these internal systems and my contact with the developers is the same as yours—the forums.Thomas Black said:And yet Joe,
we cannot mark this as an official request in whatever bug/feature tracker you guys are using. I presume you can.
So as I said to brother Frank, his request has just as much influence as mine [;)]
0 -
Frank Fenby said:
Now can you get your good buddies at Logos to stop the display of the splash screen each time we hyperlink?
Frank,
I'm asking here, as it appears you might not have got my email.
Q1) Did you in fact get my email?
Q2) More important, does the program I sent you work on your PC setup?
(For me, I can click links in Power Point, and NOT get the splash screen. I'm hoping it works for you.)
A note for others: In Office 2007, and I think Office 2003 and maybe others, all Office products gives a security warning for Hyperlinks, every time you click them.
The fix is to turn the warning off in the registry, prior to using PowerPoint, and maybe turning it back on afterwards, to continue to get the protection Office is attempting.
I'll try and re-find the Microsoft article links and post here later.
0 -
Bummer. er... I mean OK. [:)]
Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 0 -
Jim Towler said:
I'll try and re-find the Microsoft article links and post here later.
I'll save you the time It's here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925757 (for Office 2007)
Prov. 15:23
0 -
Here's a broader (related) question: why can't we turn off the splash screen entirely? It is annoying (the interruption, not the logo) and many programs (including a certain Bible program) allow you to turn off the splash.
Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)0 -
Rosie Perera said:
I'm glad you're already planning to add them.
Added to wiki page Hyperlinks (cross linked under Table of Contents at the bottom under Miscellany)
the new topic on that page is Adding
Hyperlinks in PowerPoint0 -
Jim Towler said:
Frank,
I'm asking here, as it appears you might not have got my email.
Q1) Did you in fact get my email?
Q2) More important, does the program I sent you work on your PC setup?
Sorry Jim! I got the email, but have not had a chance to try it yet. I have a question or two that I will email to you when I come up for air. I just got yet another 3 credit hour course added to my teaching load for this spring.
0 -
Frank Fenby said:
Sorry Jim! I got the email, but have not had a chance to try it yet.
No problem Frank.
With more testing, I find it works well sometimes, but has issues too. See next post. I'll see if I can come up with a new version that is more solid, until we get a fix from the Logos developers.
0 -
Well, with more testing, its clear that Logos4 really wants to KEEP OWNERSHIP of the Libronixdls protocol even for its own internal use. See the great docs at http://wiki.logos.com/Hyperlinks
If I place Libronixdls protocol links, generated by Logos4, into a Note in Logos4. Then Control-Click on those links still calls out to the Windows shell, and starts a fresh Logos4 process, complete with a Splash Screen. I was surprised to find Logos4 did not keep its own hyperlinks in-house, but still passed them out to Windows for processing!
SO - Please Logos, we need to be able to disable the spash screen to get best use of hyperlinking into Logos4.
(I'll create a new forum post in Logos4 Beta forum, to continue anything re sending keypresses from an external program. I will leave this one to continue to seek the disable option.)
0 -
steve clark said:
Making a movie would be very useful to others. i would have added this to the wiki, but i don't have the time today. But if you make the movie, when i add these steps to the wiki page, i will link to your movie and also add it to the wiki page for user video tutorials.
Well, I made the movie. It is not the quality of Mark's work but here it is.
In retrospect I should have made it as two movies. One on how to make the hyperlinks, the other on using them.
I did refrain from makeing snide remarks about the multiple appearances of the splash screen. However I hope this thread has created enough global warming in Bellingham to get this request high on the list. All use who use Logos in public presentations would really appreciate it.
0 -
Remember that http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4 is intended to let Bellingham test the global warming.[:)]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
0 -
Frank Fenby said:
Well, I made the movie. It is not the quality of Mark's work but here it is.
Frank,
Thanks for the video! You bring out points that i missed. Not to mention the nice practical applications!
i've added it to the Hyperlinks wiki page Here
also added it to the user's video wiki page Here
0 -
steve clark said:
Thanks for the video!
Steve,
And thank you for the promotional work. I just hope I can affort your agent's fee. [;)]
0 -
Frank Fenby said:
I just hope I can affort your agent's fee.
i'm hoping that you can afford it per Paul's fee rate Rom 13:8 [:D]
0 -
Frank Fenby said:
However, the accreditors are coming! They will not like it when they seen the almost "subliminal" Logos splash screen show 40+ times in a class session. They will say I am marketing a commercial product! The "Logos Bible Software" at the top of the screen will not be a problem since it does not draw attention to itself. The splash screen is a problem.
How can I disable the splash screen?
This will be fixed in 4.0d.
0 -
Jim Towler said:
SO - Please Logos, we need to be able to disable the spash screen to get best use of hyperlinking into Logos4.
In 4.0d, the splash screen will not be displayed if the program is already running. (If the program is not running, it will display the splash screen to let you know that something is happening after you click the link.)
Also, opening hyperlinks (if the program is already running) should be faster in 4.0d.
0 -
thanks Bradley [:)]
Urban Scholar - http://urban-scholar.com
Christ-centered Hip-Hop - http://www.sphereofhiphop.com0 -
Bradley Grainger said:
In 4.0d, the splash screen will not be displayed if the program is already running. (If the program is not running, it will display the splash screen to let you know that something is happening after you click the link.)
Also, opening hyperlinks (if the program is already running) should be faster in 4.0d.
Thanks Bradley,
I'm happy for any program to generate a short splash screen on first start, so thats a great solution. Once I'm in a program, speed and clean interfaces are important, so extra splash screens are out of place, so I look forward to excatly what you have described.
Again, Thanks.
0 -
Bradley Grainger said:
In 4.0d, the splash screen will not be displayed if the program is already running. (If the program is not running, it will display the splash screen to let you know that something is happening after you click the link.)
Also, opening hyperlinks (if the program is already running) should be faster in 4.0d.
Wonderful! Thank you so much! WOW and faster too! Great! [:D]
This is perfect timing. I meet with the accreditators on Friday and Tuesday. If they object, I have an answer. Praise the Lord!
Thanks again.
0
