I have Logos 7, and about 20k resources. As of now this takes up 100GB worth of SSD real estate. That's quite a lot! I would think that in this day and age file sizes would reduce with the advance of technology.
Those 20k resources you have are very big resources in some cases and millions of pages I am sure. The digital footprint for those pages would be huge no matter how advanced technology is.
That sounds a little on the high side.
Are you looking at only the ResourceManager folder inside the Logos4/Data folder?
If not, there's the WebCache folder that holds videos that you have watched in Logos and can get pretty big. You can delete them if you want, as they will redownload when you watch them again.
Hm. When I take the size of my library (after having cleared the WebCache - thanks for reminding me, great tip!) and divide by the '000 resources I own and then multiply by 20, I get to 100 GB, so this sounds about right actually.
Which tells me I should look to replace my current 128GB size SSD with a larger model if I want to continue buying books.
Matt, for some reason I'm still in doubt
Yes Levi, looking inside Logos4/Data folder. Webcache has nothing, only 6kb.
What about the option to have these on the cloud? WebDav? There should be a solution before shelling out a 512GB SSD
There should be a solution before shelling out a 512GB SSD
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Logos wiki has => Install in different folder or drive
Personally have a 2011 MacBook Air (MBA) with 128 GB Internal SSD and 128 GB external USB with Resource and WebCache folders on USB. My internal Logos4 folder uses 26.29 GB while USB Resources is 79.96 GB and WebCache is 4.65 GB so total Logos4 usage is 110.9 GB. My LibraryIndex folder uses 19.05 GB so am monitoring internal SSD free space so indexing can happen (22.17 GB is enough to allow LibraryIndex duplication with temporary files during indexing).
FYI: have learned to transport MBA carefully as quick exit from a car caused a previous USB drive to break into several pieces.
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What about the option to have these on the cloud?
Your only other option is to delete the app from your computer and move to the web app.
You're right, I should have checked my own resources: I have about 5,000 resources at about 25 GB, so that makes 20,000 at 100 GB. If you love books, you need to plan ahead when you buy a new computer and buy big!
I only have a little over 3K resources and my Resources folder is 23.3 GB, so 100 GB for 20K resources doesn't sound too bad.
What about the option to have these on the cloud? Your only other option is to delete the app from your computer and move to the web app.
What in the next world to come?? The web app is a subscription program, so why pay Logos twice?
The web app is a subscription program, so why pay Logos twice?
Blog on 10 Jul 2017 => https://blog.logos.com/2017/07/logos-7-now-can-use-web-app-free/ includes
If you own the Logos 7 Starter Feature Set or higher (included in all Logos 7 base packages), you can now do in-depth Bible study, right in your browser.
Now that's nifty. Great logos web companion for free. Who knows maybe one day we'll have all the features present in the web app as well. This would solve the GB size problem once and for all as all resources remain in the Logos server. Thanks for letting me know.
Instead of going all web-app I'd recommend installing Logos on a separate non-SSD drive. If all system specs are up the performance really isn't that bad.
I know people here are really big on SSDs as a must-have for Logos but it's not always practical to do so (e.g., when one has a laptop with room for only one drive and one hopes to run a program or two besides Logos).
It would be nice to have instructions to setup resources on external drive.
Here they are: https://wiki.logos.com/Install_in_different_folder_or_drive
Thanks, but Logos says it does not support any type of external HDD/SSD install. So we're pretty much on our own if we pursue this plan. The way I see it the problem remains.
Correct. I followed the instructions to move Logos to a custom folder, but when 7.10 came out the upgrade failed. When I called in for support I was told that this was unsupported and that I'd have to uninstall and reinstall.
Logos could be compared, jokingly, to a flesh eating HDD/SSD bacteria. It is stuck in the 80's consuming more space than any other software I have. But let us be fair, Logos relies on standard data technology for which it is not responsible. I think it has to do more with Apple.
Logos could be compared, jokingly, to a flesh eating HDD/SSD bacteria.
I think your premise is flawed and unfair. Although file sizes do shrink slightly over time, what is really happening is that drives and bandwidth is increasing. Your library would have fit inside of a warehouse 20 years ago! The real problem isn't the file sizes of the resources... it's your dinky drive. [;)]
FaithLife could mitigate the problem if they would allow selective downloading of resources. You may not need all of your books on a particular device. Earlier versions of Logos/Libronix allowed that, but FL decided to remove that feature and has not responded to sustained user requests to reinstate it.
I myself would prefer a smaller footprint on the device with web app access to all my resources, regardless if they are downloaded or hidden on my install. But at this point I don't have much expectation of getting it.
FaithLife could mitigate the problem if they would allow selective downloading of resources.
Yeah, I am not arguing against that position. I can understand both sides on that one. My point is simply that the file sizes for resources isn't unreasonable or unexpected.
But let us be fair, Logos relies on standard data technology for which it is not responsible. I think it has to do more with Apple.
Resource files are identical on Mac and Windows (have used scan command many times to copy from one platform to the other).
Technical Note: Logos 4 development started on Windows with Mac enabled later. Thankful for many Logos 4 Mac alpha pre-releases, which felt like Christmas every week or two as more features were enabled for use on Mac.
You said
I think your premise is flawed and unfair...
FaithLife could mitigate the problem if they would allow selective downloading of resources. You may not need all of your books on a particular device. Earlier versions of Logos/Libronix allowed that, but FL decided to remove that feature and has not responded to sustained user requests to reinstate it. I myself would prefer a smaller footprint on the device with web app access to all my resources, regardless if they are downloaded or hidden on my install. But at this point I don't have much expectation of getting it.
This would be a great solution
I would think that in this day and age file sizes would reduce with the advance of technology.
The exact opposite is true. In this day and age people storage and bandwidth costs are plummeting, storage speeds are soaring, whilst CPU speeds aren't increasing as quickly as before, so many database-style applications are increasing the size of their indexes and caches to make the most out of this new fast and extensive storage.
20,000 resources at 100GB is only averaging 5Mb per resource (including index). That's very little! Even my Kindle books (with no tagging, and no indexes) average 2Mb each.
I have 71GB/ 16k in resources in Logos, but I run a 2T HD with G memory- with Win 10- no issues- but since using Logos back as far as 95' I always upgrade my HD and Mem to max I can- I know its a hog.
I would think that in this day and age file sizes would reduce with the advance of technology. The exact opposite is true. In this day and age people storage and bandwidth costs are plummeting, storage speeds are soaring, whilst CPU speeds aren't increasing as quickly as before, so many database-style applications are increasing the size of their indexes and caches to make the most out of this new fast and extensive storage. 20,000 resources at 100GB is only averaging 5Mb per resource (including index). That's very little! Even my Kindle books (with no tagging, and no indexes) average 2Mb each.
Thanks for the explanation
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