What happens to my Logos / Verbum when I die...?

Hi,

I'm not intending to pop my clogs anytime soon (although I acknowledge that is not entirely within my control...), but I'm curious -

Are there any restrictions on transferring a licence e.g:

Selling Verbum to another person, or more likely
Transferring my licence / "books" to someone else on my death.

I've invested quite a bit in Verbum, and it would be a shame not to let someone else have the books when I die. As I say, just wondering!

Blessings,

Brian

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Ronnie Sinclair

Hey Brian!

1. I'm not entirely certain on how this works but I do know you can transfer resource licenses as long as you transfer them in the same bundle you purchased them in (you cannot sell the license to a single book if you bought it in a bundle but only want to sell the one book). It looks like at least at one time it was only possible to transfer a license once.

2. Apparently Logos will transfer your licenses for free upon death. They answered this on their blog here: https://blog.logos.com/2005/12/heirloom_books/

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/951213#Comment_951213

From the above blog ... "Maybe someday you’ll find yourself looking through a list of 1,500 electronic books owned by a notable scholar ...."

These days, 1,500 means the basics (for a scholar of course). That was 2005. Time flies.

JT (alabama24)

Are there any restrictions on transferring a licence e.g:

Selling Verbum to another person, or more likely

Transferring my licence / "books" to someone else on my death.

1. If you find a buyer, you can sell any resource at any time for a $20 "transfer" fee. The fee is a flat rate per transaction... so if you sell 1 book, $20. If you sell 100 books (to the same person), $20. NOTE: books purchased in a collection or bundle, must be sold/transferred together. If you buy a book and later use "dynamic pricing" on an additional set, the book is now tied to the other resources.

2. You can will your books to whomever you'd like. To be honest, I don't know if the $20 fee applies or not.

Brian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/951232#Comment_951232

Hi Everyone, and thank you so much for your helpful (and quick) replies.

I had tried searching using "sell verbum" / "sell logos" but nothing useful came back. Ronnie, I had a read of the article you linked, thanks for that.

I must update my will (I've printed off this thread in the interim and put it in my desk draw just as an added precaution!).

Once again, thanks for the replies Ronnie, Denise, and alabama24!

Blessings,

Brian

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/951318#Comment_951318

I had tried searching using "sell verbum" / "sell logos" but nothing useful came back.

Forum rules prohibit the sale of resources via the forums. There is a Facebook group dedicated to such. The next best option would be through a fellow church member or seminarian.

Brian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/951321#Comment_951321

Hi alabama24,

Ok! I wasn't actually trying to sell anything - just searching for posts about hypothetically transferring / selling my licence - a bad choice of search terms it turns out!

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/951323#Comment_951323

a bad choice of search terms

How were you searching? The BEST way is as follows:

Go to www.google.com
type site:community.logos.com (followed by your search term)

site:community.logos.com sell books , for example, produced some useful results.

Rick Ausdahl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/951331#Comment_951331

Can someone from Faithlife answer whether or not Logos has to be listed as an individual item in a Will and if the Will has to state by name, the intended recipient?

I have a Will that handles a host of contingency situations regarding beneficiaries of the estate, but it deals with the estate as a whole--it does not list individual items to be willed to specific individuals. Would Logos not be considered a part of my estate and therefore be willed according to what is suppose to happen with the estate as a whole? I'd hate to have to make changes to my will just to add Logos as an individual item and naming a specific individual as the recipient--especially when considering that the intended recipient of Logos as an individual item in the will, is far more likely to change, than are the beneficiaries of the estate as a whole, so listing it individually could easily lead to additional changes to the will--not only costly, but a hassle as well.

Brian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/951331#Comment_951331

Wow! Just tried it alabama24 - and you're right!

I had used the search function from within Logos / Verbum. Your way is vastly superior.

Never knew that. Today I've learnt something new

Thanks for the tip alabama24.

Blessings,

Brian

Onell McCarthy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/951495#Comment_951495

I believe if its your will there is no transfer fee

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/951557#Comment_951557

Best store Logos in the Cloud then you can use it while you are sitting on one!

(or isn't that biblical?)

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/951464#Comment_951464

Can someone from Faithlife answer whether or not Logos has to be listed as an individual item in a Will and if the Will has to state by name, the intended recipient?

I have a Will that handles a host of contingency situations regarding beneficiaries of the estate, but it deals with the estate as a whole--it does not list individual items to be willed to specific individuals. Would Logos not be considered a part of my estate and therefore be willed according to what is suppose to happen with the estate as a whole? I'd hate to have to make changes to my will just to add Logos as an individual item and naming a specific individual as the recipient--especially when considering that the intended recipient of Logos as an individual item in the will, is far more likely to change, than are the beneficiaries of the estate as a whole, so listing it individually could easily lead to additional changes to the will--not only costly, but a hassle as well.

That's a good question! I hope FL answers this one

Rick Ausdahl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/951464#Comment_951464

Can someone from Faithlife answer whether or not Logos has to be listed as an individual item in a Will and if the Will has to state by name, the intended recipient?

I have a Will that handles a host of contingency situations regarding beneficiaries of the estate, but it deals with the estate as a whole--it does not list individual items to be willed to specific individuals. Would Logos not be considered a part of my estate and therefore be willed according to what is suppose to happen with the estate as a whole? I'd hate to have to make changes to my will just to add Logos as an individual item and naming a specific individual as the recipient--especially when considering that the intended recipient of Logos as an individual item in the will, is far more likely to change, than are the beneficiaries of the estate as a whole, so listing it individually could easily lead to additional changes to the will--not only costly, but a hassle as well.

BUMP!

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/954001#Comment_954001

Can someone from Faithlife answer whether or not Logos has to be listed as an individual item in a Will and if the Will has to state by name, the intended recipient?

I have a Will that handles a host of contingency situations regarding beneficiaries of the estate, but it deals with the estate as a whole--it does not list individual items to be willed to specific individuals. Would Logos not be considered a part of my estate and therefore be willed according to what is suppose to happen with the estate as a whole? I'd hate to have to make changes to my will just to add Logos as an individual item and naming a specific individual as the recipient--especially when considering that the intended recipient of Logos as an individual item in the will, is far more likely to change, than are the beneficiaries of the estate as a whole, so listing it individually could easily lead to additional changes to the will--not only costly, but a hassle as well.

BUMP!

Hi Rick,

I don't know the answer. Let me see if I can find someone who does.

Rick Ausdahl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/954005#Comment_954005

Thank you, Ben!

Small Heath

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/954007#Comment_954007

We recently established our first trust, we only had a will before that. When I discussed my Logos library with our lawyer, he didn't want to include it in the trust. He said to write the instructions in a letter to our executor(s) and let the executor carry out our wishes, along with jewelry, paintings, personal items, etc. I'll choose a recipent soon, discuss this with them, discuss it with the current executor, and put it in the letter. The letter includes all my IDs, passwords, etc. I have a gigantic Logos library that they may want to keep, split, sell, or whatever seems best. None of my close relatives want it, so it may be given away or sold.

Praying about it, Dale Heath

Veli Voipio

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/954089#Comment_954089

None of my close relatives want it,

The trick is how to keep on using Logos as long as reasonably possible and sell it just before the last moment. Currently I don't have any good suggestion.

Don

Brian,

This is a question we get from time to time and it is handled two ways. If you know who you want to transfer it to we can be contacted prior and transfer all your licenses to another person at the appropriate time. The other way is leave your licenses to the individual handling your estate and they contact us at that time to let us know who to transfer the licenses to. I hope this helps.

Rick Ausdahl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/954362#Comment_954362

Brian,

This is a question we get from time to time and it is handled two ways. If you know who you want to transfer it to we can be contacted prior and transfer all your licenses to another person at the appropriate time. The other way is leave your licenses to the individual handling your estate and they contact us at that time to let us know who to transfer the licenses to. I hope this helps.

Don, thanks for the post--the process options seem very simple/straightforward. If that's the official Faithlife position and those are the only instructions we as customers need to be aware of and follow, I feel I can rest easy. [:)]

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/954365#Comment_954365

I’d assume few-interested is the easier issue. The opposite is the headache, especially if 2 generations of Christians are involved. The criticality is the instructions to the executor, to keep them from being roasted alive. Especially the Logos notes, not just the books.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/954362#Comment_954362

Brian,

This is a question we get from time to time and it is handled two ways. If you know who you want to transfer it to we can be contacted prior and transfer all your licenses to another person at the appropriate time. The other way is leave your licenses to the individual handling your estate and they contact us at that time to let us know who to transfer the licenses to. I hope this helps.

In regards to the latter option, what proof would Faithlife need before transferring the licenses?

Bill Anderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/954390#Comment_954390

In my living trust and will, I have specifically named Logos Bible Software, and not used a general description. That's the way my attorney set it up.