Changing LORD to Yahweh
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I wanted to do something similar in the N.T. I noticed in the LXX that they translated the first part of God's name as εγω ειμι in Ex. 3:14. So I thought I would make a visual filter for the "I AM" sayings in the gospel of John. So first I ran a morph search for "εγω ειμι" and restricted it to John, which gave me a list of Jesus' "I AM" sayings. But in John 9:9 the blind man uses this expression. So I further restricted my search to exclude chapter 9. This yielded the 23 hits I was looking for. Since I was searching a phrase, I then copied the search to a passage list. Then I restricted my visual filter to this passage list and only chose ειμι so that it wouldn't insert my highlight twice. Now I have a small superscript by the "I AM" sayings that I can quickly turn off or on.
."For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"
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GeoPappas said:
When I use the HebrewStrongs in the search criteria (left) side of the Visual Filter I am getting weird results.
The NASB95 has a problem with Strong's searches that was notified last year! It returns twice as many results as it should and I woudn't be surprised they affect your filter. Does it occur with other reverse interlinear resources?
Dave
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GeoPappas said:
Also, in the ESV, KJV, and NRSV, it isn't working as expected, but that seems to be because the Strong's #s are missing from the ESV for YHWH (H3068). For example, in Gen 15:1, the word Lord is missing the Strong's number. There are many other verses
Well done! There are at least 68 instances where the ESV is missing the Strong's number for LORD. This is easily seen when running a search for <H3068> in both ESV and NASB95 and merging the Passage Lists created from those searches!
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:GeoPappas said:
Also, in the ESV, KJV, and NRSV, it isn't working as expected, but that seems to be because the Strong's #s are missing from the ESV for YHWH (H3068). For example, in Gen 15:1, the word Lord is missing the Strong's number. There are many other verses
Well done! There are at least 68 instances where the ESV is missing the Strong's number for LORD. This is easily seen when running a search for <H3068> in both ESV and NASB95 and merging the Passage Lists created from those searches!
So does that mean that this is a bug?
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GeoPappas said:
So does that mean that this is a bug?
It's a resource problem and I've sent an email to revint@logos.com as per http://www.logos.com/support/reportaproblem
Dave
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Kevin Becker said:
I got it to work. Could you post logs from the crash?
Hi Kevin,
Glad to know that it works...will have to work on this later, however, as I fly international tomorrow and I have some things I need to do. Thanks for the help!
Charlene
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I seem to be having a problem finding the custom highlight I just created called Elohim (see pic). It is not showing up in the list. Can anyone help?
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Have you clicked the inverted triangle next to "Blue Foreground" and scrolled to the bottom of the list? It should be there. If not I would try restarting Logos.
Prov. 15:23
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EricLKeefer said:
I seem to be having a problem finding the custom highlight I just created called Elohim (see pic). It is not showing up in the list. Can anyone help?
Highlights created while a filter window is open do not show up in the filter window's list of styles (they don't seem to be dynamically updated). You'll need to close and reopen the filter window before it shows up.
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That did it. Thanks so much!
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Jacob Hantla said:
Thanks.
This technique obviously could be used to do this for any word. Differentiation among the greek words for love could be a good use too.
How would you set this up?
Emery,
The natural plus the supernatural together make an explosive force for God.
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Energized1 said:
How would you set this up?
did a step by step in this post How is this done? Custom Style? which shows setting up the highlighting style.
After creating a highlighting style, you will need to setup a Visual Filter to use this highlighting style (see the 2nd image on Jacob's original post)Edit: if you need help with setting up the Visual Filter part, let me know.
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Warning to mac users... If you make the illadvised decision to edit your styles (on the MAC side of things) it will mess up your formating. I had to delete my custom styles and the visual filters on the PC side to get everything back to normal. Also, I tried to combine a Elohim (God match case = True to Elohim) style in the Yahweh visual filter...this doesn't work if "The Lord" is at the beginning of the sentence. Solution create a separate visual filter for Elohim.
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Jerry Mclean said:
Francis, after reading this post, this is a visual filter I implemented. The "Pl" is not very intrusive and is enough to remind me that the second person pronouns and verbs are plural
Thanks, Jerry for the tip. I used a variation, using PL both for pronouns and verbs. I reduced the size of the superscript label to 60% and gave it a green colour so as to obtain both visibility and unobstructiveness.
Blessings.
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Francis said:
. I reduced the size of the superscript label to 60% and gave it a green colour
Yes, this works well. I was pondering a system that would give grammatical clues without being overly intrusive. For example we have superscripts for number. We could use a solid color for mood and a colored underline for tense. I was already using the green solid color for imperatives because I wanted the commands of Jesus to stand out and I thought the future tense might be an indication of promises so I had a VF underline for them. I remember one poster had grammatical shorthand under the line. That seemed to work, but increased the line spacing. If anyone has any input on further refinements of this, please respond. Thanks to those who took the time to post ideas on the wiki.
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One of those "How come?" questions . . . I have a morphological search for יהוה Visual Filter with a style to superscript this before the word.
([field bible, content] <lemma = af/he/יהוה>)
It's working great, except, I'm getting an extra "e" in Amos 5.8 . . . Thoughts on what I'm doing wrong?
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Jerry
Where are the other letters (a-d) coming from? Are they existing superscripts in the translation you are using or the result of another highlighting selection?
If the latter, is "e" being derived from this other highlight?
Graham
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Jerry Smith said:
One of those "How come?" questions . . . I have a morphological search for יהוה Visual Filter with a style to superscript this before the word.
([field bible, content] <lemma = af/he/יהוה>)
It's working great, except, I'm getting an extra "e" in Amos 5.8 . . . Thoughts on what I'm doing wrong?
And, another "How come"? in Amos 6.8 . . .
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Jerry Smith said:
It's working great, except, I'm getting an extra "e" in Amos 5.8 . . . Thoughts on what I'm doing wrong?
That's a footnote marker that was already there (note the a,b,c, and d in the lines before it).
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Todd . . . much thanks! I've looked and looked, and, obviously, missed the obvious! Too much "looking" I think! Same thing in Am6.8 too . . .
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Jerry Smith said:
It's working great, except, I'm getting an extra "e" in Amos 5.8 . . . Thoughts on what I'm doing wrong?
I can only assume it is caused by the superscripted eLord in the NAS
Dave
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Thanks Dave . . . as I mentioned earlier, I think I've just been doing too much "looking" and not enough paying attention! Back on track now, and absolutely love the Visual Filters when I'm trying to focus on some particular!
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I thought I would revive this thread (it's one of my favorites..) with a problem I found today. I was thrilled to figure out here how to replace LORD with Yahweh. Today I was in 2 Sam 7:18-29 (ESV) and found that this visual filter doesn't quite work here. (It words with Yahweh by itself, but not when Yahweh is with another title.) I have been working with visual filters lately to try to figure them out. My first question is: why in verse 18, e.g., does the visual filter not white out the superscript "God" here like it does when it encounters Yahweh in the Hebrew?
Secondly, do you know how the visual filters will behave when, for example in this passage, one visual filter will try to replace "the LORD" with Yahweh, while another one will try to replace Lord GOD with with Adonai Yahweh? (Both dealing with יהוה ) I haven't gotten quite that far into it and was just wondering...
Has anyone tried replacing other names of God in other instances such as this, besides just the occurances of "the LORD" for Yahweh?
"It seems our problems solve themselves when we look beyond us to those truly in hell." - Beyond Our Suffering - AILD
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Tom Geswein said:
I thought I would revive this thread (it's one of my favorites..) with a problem I found today. I was thrilled to figure out here how to replace LORD with Yahweh. Today I was in 2 Sam 7:18-29 (ESV) and found that this visual filter doesn't quite work here. (It words with Yahweh by itself, but not when Yahweh is with another title.) I have been working with visual filters lately to try to figure them out. My first question is: why in verse 18, e.g., does the visual filter not white out the superscript "God" here like it does when it encounters Yahweh in the Hebrew?
Secondly, do you know how the visual filters will behave when, for example in this passage, one visual filter will try to replace "the LORD" with Yahweh, while another one will try to replace Lord GOD with with Adonai Yahweh? (Both dealing with יהוה ) I haven't gotten quite that far into it and was just wondering...
Has anyone tried replacing other names of God in other instances such as this, besides just the occurances of "the LORD" for Yahweh?
I've updated my filter to deal with the O Lord GOD situation (Where GOD is the Yahweh equivalent instead of LORD), plus the case for "O LORD" which is in verse 25 of that same passage, and I've added an Adonai filter too, which required me to use the lemma.
The value for each entry is:
- the BEFORE 1 words יהוה
- "o lord" BEFORE 1 words יהוה
- "o" BEFORE 1 words יהוה
- יהוה
- ([field bible, content] <lemma = af/he/אדן:1>)
The first three get the white highlight.
If you don't want the Adonai filter, then a line still needs to be added to the original filter to handle the "O"s. It should be set to the white highlight:
- "o" BEFORE 1-2 words יהוה
- the BEFORE 1 words יהוה
- יהוה
BTW, I also noticed an odd discrepancy (which doesn't affect the filter): verse 22 has "O LORD God" (with LORD in caps) whereas all the other verses in the passage have "O Lord GOD" (with GOD in caps), but the underlying Hebrew is the same.
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Here is a screen shot of how I did it. Click on it to enlarge.
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Thanks for the solution. For some reason, I tried typing out the line "([field bible, content] <lemma = af/he/אדן:1>)" , but couldn't get it to work. I finally copied and pasted it and it worked. Is there anywhere that anyone knows of (wiki, etc.) that has a little more information on different commands to use in cases like this? e.g. BEFORE, AND etc. I was wondering how you came up with the line above or if it was generated somewhere in L4 for you. ???
I found the listing in the wiki for the command line commands, but not any of the switches like what was used here or in rules for collections and such.
Thanks again.
"It seems our problems solve themselves when we look beyond us to those truly in hell." - Beyond Our Suffering - AILD
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Tom Geswein said:
Is there anywhere that anyone knows of (wiki, etc.) that has a little more information on different commands to use in cases like this? e.g. BEFORE, AND etc.
http://wiki.logos.com/Search_HELP
Tom Geswein said:I was wondering how you came up with the line above or if it was generated somewhere in L4 for you. ???
If you enter lemma:אדן:1 into a Morph search, and then change the search type to Bible, it changes the syntax to this: ([field bible, content] <lemma = af/he/אדן:1>)
It can actually be shortened to <Lemma = af/he/אדן:1>.
Another way to get it is to click on the word in a Bible, and select the Lemma tab in the menu, and click on Search this resource.
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Todd Phillips said:Tom Geswein said:
Is there anywhere that anyone knows of (wiki, etc.) that has a little more information on different commands to use in cases like this? e.g. BEFORE, AND etc.
If if you want a LOT more information: http://wiki.logos.com/Detailed_Search_Help#Searching_for_Bible_Verses_and_other_References (although this little bit on lemmas is hidden between two screenshots).
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