morph search help
Hoping one of you search gurus can help me with this
I need a Hebrew morph. search which returns all of the infinitive absolute verbal forms which do not occur within a couple of words of the same root
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gets me all infinitive absolutes
Also can get this far in the morph query document but not sure how to add the limitation
Thanks in advance folks
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As a minimum, you'll need to use the syntax search to construct this. I don't have time right now to work out whether this particular search is possible in the Hebrew Bible, but if it is possible, it will be with a syntax search. (I'm not sure you can search match roots with a syntax search. You can match most other things.)
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Sorry, I misread your post.
The morph query (not the morph search) should be able to do this. I can't use it at the moment, because for some reason I can't select the LHB.
But under Segment 1, you can search for your infinitive absolute, then click the Agreement button at the bottom, and choose Agree on root. You can change the search span to what you want, too.
Here's a screenshot showing Greek imperative verbs sharing a root with an adjacent word, which should give you the gist.
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Hey Mark, thanks, yeah I just had to change the Agree to "disagree" and add another segment.
I'm getting the hang of it now. Much appreciated
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Jeremiah said:
Hey Mark, thanks, yeah I just had to change the Agree to "disagree" and add another segment.
I'm getting the hang of it now. Much appreciated
Trying to learn. Why doesn't this Search Query work?
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Increase Search Span to 1 verse or greater (1 Verse corresponds to Bible Search, where the words must be in the same verse). If you want to restrict the Proximity of the words, click on Add relation and select a Span of 2 segments (adjacent words), or more --> Span is slightly different to the proximity of Bible/Basic Search.
That said, Morph Query currently has a problem with Hebrew queries, so you still won't get results! Experiment with a Greek search (select SBLGNT instead of All Morph Resources).
Dave
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Thanks Dave,
No wonder I was having trouble with my experiments. Thanks for your complete and helpful response. Wunderkind!
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Beloved said:
No wonder I was having trouble with my experiments
Note that I amended my reply above --> Segment 2 doesn't need any search values.
Dave
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Yeah I have since been unable to reproduce my results.
If anyone wants to chime in with a technique I'd appreciate it. This isn't urgent just something I'm doing on the side.
So the more common situation is to have an infinitive absolute followed by or proceeded by the same root in another form (imperfect, perfect). They are not always the same binyan (stem), sometimes you have a nifal absolute followed by the same verbal root in hifil (imperfect or perfect). I'm interested in making a list of all the places where we see an infinitive absolute alone. When it comes in pairs it can sometimes be separated by a word in the middle so the span would need to include that I guess so 2 words before and after must not contain the same root.
so here's what I'm trying to do:
in Hebrew, infinitive absolute, not proceeded or followed within 3 words by a verb from the same root
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If you are stating it must be followed/preceded by a verb, as long as it has a different root you can use a Morph Query like:
Unfortunately, there is a known problem with Hebrew searches as one cannot select the Lexham Hebrew Bible, and All Morph resources will not work either. A span of 4 segments allows up to 2 intervening segments. Change as desired.
A Syntax Search can be constructed but The Andersen-Forbes bible does not have roots. This is what you can do with stems, though
Repeats 0-2 allows up to 2 intervening segments. Change as desired.
Dave
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