Your notes are coming to the web app
TLDR: The web app uses a new Notes tool, which is separate from Note documents on Logos desktop and mobile apps. Over the next three weeks, we will be migrating all users' notes into the new system, so they will soon be available at app.logos.com.
Is there any risk?
No. Your note documents will not be affected; we are simply copying them into the new system. (They will also continue to copy forward; more on that below.)
What do I need to do?
Nothing; the migration happens all on the backend.
When will my notes be available on the web app?
Your notes will gradually appear at app.logos.com over the next three weeks. We are migrating hundreds of millions of notes in no particular order.
What happens to my old note documents?
Your note documents will continue to exist, and you can still use them normally on Logos desktop and mobile. This is a continuous, one-way migration:
- Any notes you continue to create (or edit) in documents will automatically populate to the Notes tool, but not vice versa.
- You won’t see changes you make in Notes tool showing up in documents, but you will see changes in documents showing up in Notes tool.
- If you edit a migrated note in Notes tool, and then edit it in the original document, it will not re-migrate; the Notes tool will protect the changes you made in the new notes version.
Is there a way to use the new web-style Notes tool on Logos desktop?
Yes! Join the Notes Tool beta testers group on Faithlife. To switch to use the new Notes tool by default, use the command Set Prefer Notes Tool to Yes.
How are my migrated notes organized?
Document Title == Notebook. In the old system, a note must be part of a “document” (a.k.a “note file”); the note can’t exist independently. In the new system, all notes belong to a single database, and can optionally be organized into containing Notebooks. Migrated notes will belong to a Notebook of a same title as the document it came from.
Migrated notes will get all the same rich facets as notes created in the Notes tool (type, resource, Bible book, etc). Since many users organize note documents similarly, many Notebooks may be functionally duplicated by facets.
Anything else I should know?
Collaborated note documents are not being migrated at this time. Collaborated documents are “owned” by a group, and we are only migrating notes owned by individual users for now.
Labels won’t show (or be searchable) in migrated notes. If you have highlighting styles that imply a label, we are storing that data in the Notes tool, but the tool doesn’t know what to do with it yet. Label search extensions will continue to work as normal with your note documents in the search panel.
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Will the new note system allow a user to export all his/her notes to a Word file?
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Mark said:
Will the new note system allow a user to export all his/her notes to a Word file?
We haven't built exporting functionality yet, so we're not 100% sure how it'll work. We may limit exporting to notebooks. A note can be in only one notebook. You could perhaps add all your notes to the same notebook and export them.
What use cases would you want to solve for with exporting?
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The main and most important concern I have is the ability to save notes to an external file. I have two Bibles from my youth with notes in them. Not easy to export those notes into another format to be able to use in the future. If I am to start writing notes in my Logos Bible, I want the ability to export those notes easily. The best way would be to have a function that will export all notes from a Book in the Bible or all notes written in a Bible to an external file that can easily be converted into a Word file or pdf or another standard format. That way, I am sure that the notes can be extracted from Logos.
Without confirmation that notes can be exported to a single file means I am forced to continue doing double work...creating notes in Logos, and also copying those notes at the time I write them into a Word file that continues to grow. Doing it this way assures me that I have the notes in Logos, but also in a separate format outside of Logos.
I am quite sure this would be an important issue for most people.
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We definitely will support exporting, like we do in the current system. The main question for me is whether we'll initially have an "export my entire database" option. It seems more likely that we'll have an option to export all notes in a given notebook. That seems like it would meet your needs as you've described them above. You'd just need to bulk add all the notes you want to export to a notebook first. But maybe exporting will be a bulk action and not require the intermediate step of adding them to a notebook. I'm not sure yet. Regardless, you should be able to bulk export your notes fairly easily.
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Thanks Phil for the response
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Adam Borries (Faithlife) said:
TLDR:
What do you mean by this ?
And what does all this mean for desktop users and Logos 8 ? Are we going to loose functionality and be forced onto a beta tool ?
The notes tool in the web app continues to look very immature and very much a beta software. I can only select an apply a yellow highlight to selected text, I then have to open up the note tool find the highlight and change it to my preferred highlight and then I am limited to preset highlights. Most of my notes in the desktop use customer highlighting pallets. You have sold this software for many years on the basis of users being able to create custom highlights. It was also said we would be able to apply our own tags to notes and filter by those tags yet no sign of this functionality either when I look at the new notes tool in the web app.
What functionality are we going to end up with in the desktop app ? Are the feature you have sold this software on going to disappear overnight because you are forcing beta software on to users who have not signed up for beta testing just so you can fit in with marketing plans to push Logos 8 out of the door ? We need a much better explanation of what you are doing here than just saying we don't know what it will look like if your plan is in fact to force a beta notes tool on to desktop users just so you can showcase Logos 8 has having a great new notes tool - which actually takes away functionality from notes that users have come accustomed to using and have built their whole note taking strategy around.
You botched things up when you went from Libronix 3 to Logos 4 with a whole lot of missing features you promised would eventually resurface and then one day with all those missing features not complete you just took down the webpage tracking progress of those missing features with no explanation to users.
Don't botch things up again force us onto beta notes tool with sub functionality just so you can fit in with your marketing timetable for Logos 8.
Please proved an open and clear explanation of what you are doing here rather than just giving us crumbs and then shrugging your shoulders and saying we don't know what it will look like if you are in fact about to force this beta notes tool onto Logos 8 desktop users.
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doc said:
TLDR or TL;DR is short form for "too long; didn't read" and is used either in response to a really long post that you didn't take the time to read or as a way of summarizing on a long post so those who don't have time to read the whole thing can get the main point. Adam was using it in the latter sense.
doc said:And what does all this mean for desktop users and Logos 8 ?
The new notes tool will replace the current notes system in Logos 8. We'll support both systems until the free version of Logos 8 is available, so you won't be forced to pay to move to the new system. Even after that, the old system will continue to work in older clients like Logos 7 and older versions of the mobile app.
doc said:Are we going to loose functionality and be forced onto a beta tool ?
You will not be forced to use the beta. We're inviting everyone to try out the beta, so they can begin getting acquainted with the new tool. We don't want users to have a jarring experience when they switch. The beta gives the opportunity to start learning the new system without abandoning the current one. It's entirely optional, though. If it's not for you, that's totally fine. No pressure.
doc said:The notes tool in the web app continues to look very immature and very much a beta software. I can only select an apply a yellow highlight to selected text, I then have to open up the note tool find the highlight and change it to my preferred highlight and then I am limited to preset highlights. Most of my notes in the desktop use customer highlighting pallets. You have sold this software for many years on the basis of users being able to create custom highlights.
There are planned improvements coming, including custom styles.
doc said:It was also said we would be able to apply our own tags to notes and filter by those tags yet no sign of this functionality either when I look at the new notes tool in the web app.
Tags are there and have been for months. They're at the bottom of the editor, and they're the fifth facet in the filters sidebar.
doc said:What functionality are we going to end up with in the desktop app ?
There's plenty of new functionality that didn't exist in the old system, and we're aiming for as close to feature parity with the current system as possible.
doc said:Are the feature you have sold this software on going to disappear overnight because you are forcing beta software on to users who have not signed up for beta testing just so you can fit in with marketing plans to push Logos 8 out of the door ?
No.
doc said:We need a much better explanation of what you are doing here than just saying we don't know what it will look like if your plan is in fact to force a beta notes tool on to desktop users just so you can showcase Logos 8 has having a great new notes tool - which actually takes away functionality from notes that users have come accustomed to using and have built their whole note taking strategy around.
See above.
doc said:You botched things up when you went from Libronix 3 to Logos 4 with a whole lot of missing features you promised would eventually resurface and then one day with all those missing features not complete you just took down the webpage tracking progress of those missing features with no explanation to users.
I'm sorry we didn't meet your expectations.
doc said:Don't botch things up again force us onto beta notes tool with sub functionality just so you can fit in with your marketing timetable for Logos 8.
See above.
doc said:Please proved an open and clear explanation of what you are doing here rather than just giving us crumbs and then shrugging your shoulders and saying we don't know what it will look like if you are in fact about to force this beta notes tool onto Logos 8 desktop users.
See above.
Are there specific questions you'd like answers to?
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:doc said:
TLDR or TL;DR is short form for "too long; didn't read" and is used either in response to a really long post that you didn't take the time to read or as a way of summarizing on a long post so those who don't have time to read the whole thing can get the main point. Adam was using it in the latter sense.
Why not just stick to plain language rather than using acronyms that not everyone is familiar with - lack of clarity in FL's communications is a continued problem. You are dealing with an international audience from a wide range of demographics. I don't think this added to the communication in anyway and because form the start I had no idea what he was on about the message was lost immediately.
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:doc said:And what does all this mean for desktop users and Logos 8 ?
The new notes tool will replace the current notes system in Logos 8. We'll support both systems until the free version of Logos 8 is available, so you won't be forced to pay to move to the new system. Even after that, the old system will continue to work in older clients like Logos 7 and older versions of the mobile app.
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:You will not be forced to use the beta. We're inviting everyone to try out the beta, so they can begin getting acquainted with the new tool. We don't want users to have a jarring experience when they switch. The beta gives the opportunity to start learning the new system without abandoning the current one. It's entirely optional, though. If it's not for you, that's totally fine. No pressure.
"Until the free version of Logos 8 becomes available"...
a) So are you saying as a Logos Connect member when Logos 8 is released I will not loose any functionality and disconnect between my resources, notes and highlights in the desktop application - everything will continue as it is right now. When I look in the web app all I see is a whole lot of notes disconnected from their source because you have released this tool into the web app environment prematurely without all the required supporting features for a seamless transition. Based on what you are saying now, how you have answered other questions and how FL has acted in the past that you really understand what it happening in this space / what the transition plan will be or look like.
b) so what happens then when this project is not completed? Are you going to delay release of the free version? Otherwise your statement that users will not be forced onto a beta tool that disconnects users notes and the original source of those notes is false.
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:doc said:The notes tool in the web app continues to look very immature and very much a beta software. I can only select an apply a yellow highlight to selected text, I then have to open up the note tool find the highlight and change it to my preferred highlight and then I am limited to preset highlights. Most of my notes in the desktop use customer highlighting pallets. You have sold this software for many years on the basis of users being able to create custom highlights.
There are planned improvements coming, including custom styles.
see above - you are not giving me confidence FL actually understands the significance of getting this wrong, the time you managed to loose everyone's personal books and we had to re-create them all - have you forgotten about that. Multiply that by a zillion fold when it comes to users notes - if you don't have this ready so that peoples notes are not disconnected from the resources where they made those notes in the first place, like is currently happening with the web app - and you have said nothing about the mobile app as yet - or heaven forbid manage to loose peoples notes, it won't be pretty
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:doc said:What functionality are we going to end up with in the desktop app ?
There's plenty of new functionality that didn't exist in the old system, and we're aiming for as close to feature parity with the current system as possible.
New functionality means nothing when I have notes disconnected from their source as I currently see in the web app. At the moment the web app is useless to me because of how you have treated it a live beta you forced onto anyone using it.
What does "as close to feature parity with the current system as possible" mean ? Please be upfront and clear and avoid openness with customers trough the use of vague language. What is not going to fall in the possible range ? Once again this statement does not leave me with confidence.
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:doc said:It was also said we would be able to apply our own tags to notes and filter by those tags yet no sign of this functionality either when I look at the new notes tool in the web app.
Tags are there and have been for months. They're at the bottom of the editor, and they're the fifth facet in the filters sidebar.
I am sorry but I couldn't see where to enter them, the box is so light you can hardly see it and don't notice it if it's not there as it is disconnected from the users line of sight as every other aspect of the note is in at the top of the note file and so one's eyes do not look to the bottom of the screen. It would make much more sense for the space to enter user tags to be in the users line of sight. If you dont' move this to the top, please at least make it more visible so that users dont' miss it.
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:doc said:Please proved an open and clear explanation of what you are doing here rather than just giving us crumbs and then shrugging your shoulders and saying we don't know what it will look like if you are in fact about to force this beta notes tool onto Logos 8 desktop users.
Phil all you are giving me at this point is the FAQ scripted answers, not real answers to my concerns - see above.
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Thanks for the update, Phil!
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:The new notes tool will replace the current notes system in Logos 8.
Two questions about timing and feature parity:
- Is the new notes system planned to be available in L8.0 (desktop) when L8 first ships, or scheduled for a later 8.x release?
- What about mobile? The last I recall, all platforms would be moved to the new system early next year.
I highlight on both desktop and iPad, so I wonder what impact that might have, if one platform would be new notes, and the other is still old notes.
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:We'll support both systems until the free version of Logos 8 is available, so you won't be forced to pay to move to the new system.
Just to make sure I understand that timing, the free version usually is available in February 2019 (for non-subscribers)?
I haven't used or seen new notes, personally, so the new system will be a bit of a (pleasant) surprise for me. Looking forward to seeing what it offers!
Hoping everything will transition smoothly both for FL and for users! Thanks to everyone for your hard work in developing, using, and testing new notes!
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Bump Phil Gons.
Waiting on your response to if Logos Connect members are going to be forced onto the new notes platform when Logos 8 is released even if it has missing functionality of existing notes system.
Petah also has outstanding questions.
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doc said:
Bump Phil Gons.
Waiting on your response to if Logos Connect members are going to be forced onto the new notes platform when Logos 8 is released even if it has missing functionality of existing notes system.
Petah also has outstanding questions.
I'm sorry for the delay. I will try to reply later today after I'm done with meetings.
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doc said:
Why not just stick to plain language rather than using acronyms that not everyone is familiar with - lack of clarity in FL's communications is a continued problem. You are dealing with an international audience from a wide range of demographics. I don't think this added to the communication in anyway and because form the start I had no idea what he was on about the message was lost immediately.
For whatever it's worth, I found that it added to my immediate understanding of his post.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Thanks Phil, just didnt want the discussion to get lost in the forum forest.
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:doc said:Bump Phil Gons.
Waiting on your response to if Logos Connect members are going to be forced onto the new notes platform when Logos 8 is released even if it has missing functionality of existing notes system.
Petah also has outstanding questions.
I'm sorry for the delay. I will try to reply later today after I'm done with meetings.
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SineNomine said:doc said:
Why not just stick to plain language rather than using acronyms that not everyone is familiar with - lack of clarity in FL's communications is a continued problem. You are dealing with an international audience from a wide range of demographics. I don't think this added to the communication in anyway and because form the start I had no idea what he was on about the message was lost immediately.
For whatever it's worth, I found that it added to my immediate understanding of his post.
I am not saying it didn’t for those in the know, but if you don’t have a clue on what it means and it’s the first thing you read, it distracts for the message.
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doc said:
Why not just stick to plain language rather than using acronyms that not everyone is familiar with - lack of clarity in FL's communications is a continued problem. You are dealing with an international audience from a wide range of demographics. I don't think this added to the communication in anyway and because form the start I had no idea what he was on about the message was lost immediately.
I don't disagree. It was likely an oversight. It's commonly understood internally, and he likely forgot to consider that it's probably not as broadly understood among users.
doc said:a) So are you saying as a Logos Connect member when Logos 8 is released I will not loose any functionality and disconnect between my resources, notes and highlights in the desktop application - everything will continue as it is right now. When I look in the web app all I see is a whole lot of notes disconnected from their source because you have released this tool into the web app environment prematurely without all the required supporting features for a seamless transition. Based on what you are saying now, how you have answered other questions and how FL has acted in the past that you really understand what it happening in this space / what the transition plan will be or look like.
I'm not sure what you mean by "disconnect between my resources, notes and highlights." Are you saying you're not seeing them in your resources? If so, make sure to check your Notes and Highlights visual filters.
If not, can you clarify exactly what you mean? I'm not following you. Are you perhaps not seeing the faceted browsing sidebar that shows all the metadata for your notes and highlights?
doc said:b) so what happens then when this project is not completed? Are you going to delay release of the free version? Otherwise your statement that users will not be forced onto a beta tool that disconnects users notes and the original source of those notes is false.
I stand behind my statement that we're not going to force people to pay for an upgrade to continue to access their notes. They'll be able to use the existing system until the new system is ready to replace it.
doc said:see above - you are not giving me confidence FL actually understands the significance of getting this wrong, the time you managed to loose everyone's personal books and we had to re-create them all - have you forgotten about that. Multiply that by a zillion fold when it comes to users notes - if you don't have this ready so that peoples notes are not disconnected from the resources where they made those notes in the first place, like is currently happening with the web app - and you have said nothing about the mobile app as yet - or heaven forbid manage to loose peoples notes, it won't be pretty
This is precisely why we're migrating everyone's notes well in advance and giving people the opportunity to begin to get acquainted with the new system. We'd much rather people have time to adjust than switch without warning and catch people off guard.
doc said:New functionality means nothing when I have notes disconnected from their source as I currently see in the web app. At the moment the web app is useless to me because of how you have treated it a live beta you forced onto anyone using it.
What does "as close to feature parity with the current system as possible" mean ? Please be upfront and clear and avoid openness with customers trough the use of vague language. What is not going to fall in the possible range ? Once again this statement does not leave me with confidence.
Labels may not make it into the new system in time, which would mean that you'd need to access your labels in the old system until we've brought them over. We're currently not planning to bring note indentation over. Very few people used it, and beta testers have told us they don't consider that to be an important feature to retain as long as we provide other ways of capturing structure, like preset styles (H1, H2, H3, etc.).
doc said:I am sorry but I couldn't see where to enter them, the box is so light you can hardly see it and don't notice it if it's not there as it is disconnected from the users line of sight as every other aspect of the note is in at the top of the note file and so one's eyes do not look to the bottom of the screen. It would make much more sense for the space to enter user tags to be in the users line of sight. If you dont' move this to the top, please at least make it more visible so that users dont' miss it.
I don't disagree. There's an open case to review the styling for tags.
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PetahChristian said:
Is the new notes system planned to be available in L8.0 (desktop) when L8 first ships, or scheduled for a later 8.x release? What about mobile? The last I recall, all platforms would be moved to the new system early next year.
We're planning to release the new notes system out of beta on desktop, web, and mobile with Logos 8. Early next year is when all free versions of our apps should have the new notes system.
PetahChristian said:I highlight on both desktop and iPad, so I wonder what impact that might have, if one platform would be new notes, and the other is still old notes.
Our one-way continuous migration solves for this, not perfectly, but sufficiently. But most people shouldn't have to be split between old and new. Our plans are to release to all three platforms at the same time. The only way a person might be on both platforms is if they have an older device that doesn't run a modern OS required to run the latest versions of our app.
PetahChristian said:Just to make sure I understand that timing, the free version usually is available in February 2019 (for non-subscribers)?
That would be consistent with what we usually do.
PetahChristian said:I haven't used or seen new notes, personally, so the new system will be a bit of a (pleasant) surprise for me. Looking forward to seeing what it offers!
I hope you like it, and I'd love your feedback if you decide to give it a try during the beta period.
PetahChristian said:Hoping everything will transition smoothly both for FL and for users! Thanks to everyone for your hard work in developing, using, and testing new notes!
Thank you!
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Phil you still are avoiding answering the question I am asking. When Logos 8 is released will all of my note that are based on custom highlights be visible in the resource I created them i.e. will custom highlights be functioning as they do now when Logos 8 is released or are you going to break peoples notes intentionally. It’s a fairly simple question.
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:PetahChristian said:Is the new notes system planned to be available in L8.0 (desktop) when L8 first ships, or scheduled for a later 8.x release? What about mobile? The last I recall, all platforms would be moved to the new system early next year.
We're planning to release the new notes system out of beta on desktop, web, and mobile with Logos 8. Early next year is when all free versions of our apps should have the new notes system.
PetahChristian said:I highlight on both desktop and iPad, so I wonder what impact that might have, if one platform would be new notes, and the other is still old notes.
Our one-way continuous migration solves for this, not perfectly, but sufficiently. But most people shouldn't have to be split between old and new. Our plans are to release to all three platforms at the same time. The only way a person might be on both platforms is if they have an older device that doesn't run a modern OS required to run the latest versions of our app.
PetahChristian said:Just to make sure I understand that timing, the free version usually is available in February 2019 (for non-subscribers)?
That would be consistent with what we usually do.
PetahChristian said:I haven't used or seen new notes, personally, so the new system will be a bit of a (pleasant) surprise for me. Looking forward to seeing what it offers!
I hope you like it, and I'd love your feedback if you decide to give it a try during the beta period.
PetahChristian said:Hoping everything will transition smoothly both for FL and for users! Thanks to everyone for your hard work in developing, using, and testing new notes!
Thank you!
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doc said:
When Logos 8 is released will all of my note that are based on custom highlights be visible in the resource I created them i.e. will custom highlights be functioning as they do now when Logos 8 is released or are you going to break peoples notes intentionally. It’s a fairly simple question.
Perhaps you missed it when I responded to your initial inquiry about custom highlight styles: "There are planned improvements coming, including custom styles." To be more explicit: yes, we are planning to have support for custom highlight styles before the new notes system ships out of beta.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
I'm not sure what you mean by "disconnect between my resources, notes and highlights." Are you saying you're not seeing them in your resources? If so, make sure to check your Notes and Highlights visual filters.
Doc, can you shed some light on this for me? This seems to be your biggest concern, and I'm not sure what it means. Can you help? We can't address it if we don't understand what you're seeing. Can you provide a screenshot? Thanks.
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For any FL people (Phil? Adam?), or any of the beta users of the new Notes tool...
Can you explain how highlighting will work in the new system? By "highlighting" I strictly mean highlighting for the purpose of highlighting, not visual cues to the existence of a note that might take the form of highlighting.
In the current implementation, highlights were force-fit into notes documents, a design decision that always seemed curious to me. In the new system, is the approach for highlighting still analogous to the current system? If so, are current notes documents that exist just to contain highlights getting migrated? And do those highlights show up in the new app? If not, how will highlighting work? And will current highlights be migrated so that they "just work" in the new app?
Thanks,
Donnie
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Donnie Hale said:
or any of the beta users of the new Notes tool...
I'm running the beta test of the Notes tool in Logos 7 (both stable and beta releases of L7). Screenshots below are from the stable release of L7.
Both Notes and Highlights show up in the Notes Tool - but they are recognised as different types
If I select the Highlights facet then the Notes Tool just shows my highlights
Donnie Hale said:If so, are current notes documents that exist just to contain highlights getting migrated? And do those highlights show up in the new app?
Yes and yes - the highlights in the screenshot above were created under the "old system" and then migrated across.
And with the faceted browsing capability - on the left - I can easily focus down on particular resources etc. So to see all my highlights in Exodus I select that facet
And if I select some text in a resource I can choose to either create a note or add a highlight as shown
Does this help? And did I miss anything?
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Graham Criddle said:
Both Notes and Highlights show up in the Notes Tool - but they are recognised as different types
Nice improvement!
Thanks, Graham, for explanation and the screenshots.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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No I did not miss it Phil it is just not clear what Logos Desktop Notes will look like the morning after Logos 8 is released for Logos Connect members and our software has updated to Logos 8. Thank you for bearing with me in my questions.
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:doc said:When Logos 8 is released will all of my note that are based on custom highlights be visible in the resource I created them i.e. will custom highlights be functioning as they do now when Logos 8 is released or are you going to break peoples notes intentionally. It’s a fairly simple question.
Perhaps you missed it when I responded to your initial inquiry about custom highlight styles: "There are planned improvements coming, including custom styles." To be more explicit: yes, we are planning to have support for custom highlight styles before the new notes system ships out of beta.
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Will do tonight when I am home and on PC.
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:I'm not sure what you mean by "disconnect between my resources, notes and highlights." Are you saying you're not seeing them in your resources? If so, make sure to check your Notes and Highlights visual filters.
Doc, can you shed some light on this for me? This seems to be your biggest concern, and I'm not sure what it means. Can you help? We can't address it if we don't understand what you're seeing. Can you provide a screenshot? Thanks.
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Phil I hope this makes it clearer to you my concern. Apologies it took a little bit longer to get back to you.
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doc said:
Phil I hope this makes it clearer to you my concern. Apologies it took a little bit longer to get back to you.
No worries. Thanks for getting back to me. Now I understand. It looks to me like that's a custom highlight style. Support for those is coming soon. When we add support, you'll be able to see them in the new system just like you can in the current one.
If you're having trouble seeing built-in styles, make sure you're Notes and Highlights visual filters are turned on.
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doc said:
it is just not clear what Logos Desktop Notes will look like the morning after Logos 8 is released for Logos Connect members and our software has updated to Logos 8.
I'm sorry it wasn't clearer. Our goal is to make as seamless and smooth of a transition as possible so that everything is exactly as you expect it to be!
doc said:Thank you for bearing with me in my questions.
You're welcome. Glad we got it sorted out together.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Now I understand. It looks to me like that's a custom highlight style. Support for those is coming soon. When we add support, you'll be able to see them in the new system just like you can in the current one.
Ok now you understand what I am talking about, I need to get you to understand my question because you haven't answered it yet. When Logos 8 is released will all Logos Connect members be moved on to the new notes tool, not just those signed up for the beta, and if they are will custom highlighting be working ?
My point is that if it is not working you should not be moving people over to the new notes system without their consent. And downloading Logos 8 is not consent since Logos Connect members will get it, unless they turned off internet updates as the only way to remain on current notes system in Logos 7 which is not an acceptable solution because they could not download any new resources they might purchases.
So now you understand what I am talking about and with my additional clarification here as to the what and why of my question, can you finally answer it at this point Phil ?
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Hi Doc
Just to comment that my understanding is that even when people on the stable channel have access to the new Notes Tool, they will still have access to the current system as well.
I don’t expect this to be the case long-term but thought it was worth pointing out.
But I appreciate this doesn’t address the specific question you are asking Phil
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Graham Criddle said:
my understanding is that even when people on the stable channel have access to the new Notes Tool, they will still have access to the current system as well
There was a recent comment by Phil(?) that the old system would continue to be supported on L7 and older clients, which could imply that L8 would not support the old system. I'm not sure whether this is the case, but I believe that this is Doc's concern. As a FLC member who has automatic updates turned on, he will receive L8 automatically and fears the potential consequences.
doc said:Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:Now I understand. It looks to me like that's a custom highlight style. Support for those is coming soon. When we add support, you'll be able to see them in the new system just like you can in the current one.
Ok now you understand what I am talking about, I need to get you to understand my question because you haven't answered it yet. When Logos 8 is released will all Logos Connect members be moved on to the new notes tool, not just those signed up for the beta, and if they are will custom highlighting be working?
You're actually asking two questions. Phil has reasonably (IMO) assured you on your second question, thereby rendering the first question largely irrelevant.
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