One Volume Commentaries
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Thanks for the syntax tips.Dave Hooton said:Sarel Slabbert said:I currently use this rule
It is overly complex as type:bible-commentary AND subject:"Bible—Commentaries" will get one-volume commentaries. If you do have many exceptions (the ANDNOT's) then tag the relevant ones with mytag:commentary-one-volume.
(subject:”Bible. O.T.--Commentaries” AND subject:”Bible.N.T.--Commentaries”) may get a couple of commentaries, but not two-volume ones!
(subject:”Bible. O.T.--Commentaries” OR subject:”Bible.N.T.--Commentaries”) is closer, but you cannot "pair" OT and NT volumes without tagging them e.g. mytag:commentary-two-volume. And it is conceivable that some may not be split as OT + NT volumes.
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Sarel Slabbert said:
I currently use this rule
type:bible-commentary ANDNOT series:* AND (((subject:"Bible—Commentaries" ANDNOT subject:"Bible—Commentaries—Collected works") OR (subject:”Bible. O.T.--Commentaries” AND subject:”Bible. .N.T.--Commentaries”) OR subject:"bible handbooks" OR subject:"bible introductions") OR mytag:commentary-one-volume) ANDNOT title:volumes
But I am not sure if it shows ALL possible one or two volume commentaries in my libraryFurther to my comments above:
subject:"bible handbooks" OR subject:"bible introductions" is usually associated with subject:"Bible—Commentaries" (when they are type:commentary), and therefore unnecessary.
ANDNOT title:volumes omits at least two one-volume commentaries! This is not needed.
ANDNOT series:* has little value e.g. what if Faithlife added a series name to a one-volume commentary?
So, I would simplify your rule to:
type:bible-commentary AND ((subject:"Bible—Commentaries" ANDNOT subject:"Bible—Commentaries—Collected works") OR mytag:commentary-one-volume OR mytag:commentary-two-volume)
If you feel that one-volume commentaries have been omitted, then use your commentary-one-volume tag e.g. The Companion Bible. The two-volume tag comes from my previous comment.
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:Sarel Slabbert said:
I currently use this rule
type:bible-commentary ANDNOT series:* AND (((subject:"Bible—Commentaries" ANDNOT subject:"Bible—Commentaries—Collected works") OR (subject:”Bible. O.T.--Commentaries” AND subject:”Bible. .N.T.--Commentaries”) OR subject:"bible handbooks" OR subject:"bible introductions") OR mytag:commentary-one-volume) ANDNOT title:volumes
But I am not sure if it shows ALL possible one or two volume commentaries in my libraryFurther to my comments above:
subject:"bible handbooks" OR subject:"bible introductions" is usually associated with subject:"Bible—Commentaries" (when they are type:commentary), and therefore unnecessary.
ANDNOT title:volumes omits at least two one-volume commentaries! This is not needed.
ANDNOT series:* has little value e.g. what if Faithlife added a series name to a one-volume commentary?
So, I would simplify your rule to:
type:bible-commentary AND ((subject:"Bible—Commentaries" ANDNOT subject:"Bible—Commentaries—Collected works") OR mytag:commentary-one-volume OR mytag:commentary-two-volume)
If you feel that one-volume commentaries have been omitted, then use your commentary-one-volume tag e.g. The Companion Bible. The two-volume tag comes from my previous comment.
And that is why resurrecting an old thread is sometimes worth it [:P]
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Sarel Slabbert said:
Is there an easy way (rule set) that will show only the 1 or 2 volume commentaries in my library?
Type:Commentary AND (Subj:(Bible.O.T.,Bible.N.T.) ANDNOT Subj:(Apocrypha,Pentateuch,Genesis,Exodus,Leviticus,Numbers,Deuteronomy,Joshua,Judges,Ruth,Samuel,Kings,Chronicles, Ezra,Nehemiah,Esther,Job,Psalm,Proverbs,Ecclesiast,Song,Haftarot,Isaiah,Jeremiah,Lamentations,Ezekiel,Daniel, Minor,Hosea,Joel,Amos,Obadiah,Jonah,Micah,Nahum,Habakkuk,Zephaniah,Haggai,Zechariah,Malachi, Esdras,Tobit,Judith,Wisdom,Sirach,Baruch,Maccabees, Gospels,Parables,Matthew,Mark,Luke,John,Acts, Epistle,Romans,Corinthians,Galatians,Ephesians,Philippians,Colossians,Thessalonians,Timothy,Titus, Philemon,Hebrews,James,Peter,Jude,Revelation))
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Sarel Slabbert said:
Is there an easy way (rule set) that will show only the 1 or 2 volume commentaries in my library?
Type:Commentary AND (Subj:(Bible.O.T.,Bible.N.T.) ANDNOT Subj:(Apocrypha,Pentateuch,Genesis,Exodus,Leviticus,Numbers,Deuteronomy,Joshua,Judges,Ruth,Samuel,Kings,Chronicles, Ezra,Nehemiah,Esther,Job,Psalm,Proverbs,Ecclesiast,Song,Haftarot,Isaiah,Jeremiah,Lamentations,Ezekiel,Daniel, Minor,Hosea,Joel,Amos,Obadiah,Jonah,Micah,Nahum,Habakkuk,Zephaniah,Haggai,Zechariah,Malachi, Esdras,Tobit,Judith,Wisdom,Sirach,Baruch,Maccabees, Gospels,Parables,Matthew,Mark,Luke,John,Acts, Epistle,Romans,Corinthians,Galatians,Ephesians,Philippians,Colossians,Thessalonians,Timothy,Titus, Philemon,Hebrews,James,Peter,Jude,Revelation))
This is overly complicated and doesn't provide one-volume commentaries. It seems to be an attempt at two-volume commentaries, but it will omit commentaries on the OT with Apocrypha. A simpler rule is:
Type:Commentary AND Subject:(Bible.O.T.-Commentaries, Bible.N.T.-Commentaries, Bible.N.T.-Criticism)
But you still have to manually "pair" commentaries and tag them as "two-volume". As they will usually have a series name, a better rule would be:
Type:Commentary AND Subject:(Bible.O.T.-Commentaries, Bible.N.T.-Commentaries, N.T.-Criticism) AND Series:*
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Dave Hooton said:
A simpler rule is:
Type:Commentary AND Subject:(Bible.O.T.-Commentaries, Bible.N.T.-Commentaries, Bible.N.T.-Criticism)
This rule included
- 35 Volume Preacher's Commentary series
- 10 Volume "El Conocimiento Bíblico" series
- 2 "Philo and Holy Scripture" volumes on the Pentateuch
- 1 volume out of 5 "Standard Reference Library Through-The-Bible Commentary series
Dave Hooton said:This is overly complicated and doesn't provide one-volume commentaries. It seems to be an attempt at two-volume commentaries, but it will omit commentaries on the OT with Apocrypha.
Modified complex rule to include simpler rule results for one to three volume commentaries covering OT and/or NT (including OT with Apocrypha)
Type:Commentary AND ((Subj:Bible.O.T.--Commentaries AND Subj:Apocrypha) OR (Subj:(Bible.O.T.,Bible.N.T.) ANDNOT Subj:(Apocrypha,Sermons,Study,Pentateuch,Genesis,Exodus,Leviticus,Numbers,Deuteronomy,Joshua,Judges,Ruth,Samuel,Kings,Chronicles, Ezra,Nehemiah,Esther,Job,Psalm,Proverbs,Ecclesiast,Song,Haftarot,Isaiah,Isaias,Jeremiah,Lamentations,Ezekiel,Daniel, Minor,Hosea,Joel,Amos,Obadiah,Jonah,Micah,Nahum,Habakkuk,Zephaniah,Haggai,Zechariah,Malachi, Esdras,Tobit,Judith,Wisdom,Sirach,Baruch,Maccabees,Gospels,Parables,Matthew,Mateo,Mark,Luke,John,Juan,Acts, Epistle,Romans,Corinthians,Galatians,Ephesians,Philippians,Colossians,Thessalonians,Timothy,Titus,Tito, Philemon,Hebrews,James,Peter,Jude,Revelation))
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Scott said:DIsciple II said:
I use custom grouping of commentaries in Desktop PG so I prioritise these first
Can someone explain this to me?
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I just added the NIB One Volume Commentary to my one volume commentary collection; except I had to add it to my Accordance Bible Software, since Logos doesn't sell it.
I also have their New Interpreter's Study Bible which I bought a while ago. They seem to be different resources but from the same NIB family. The one volume commentary is not an abridged version of the 12 volume set (1 volume in Logos and elsewhere). And the notes from the study Bible are different too.
Nice addition to my studies!
DAL
Ps. The links I provided are for the print editions which contain sample pages, in case some of you might want to check them out.
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DAL said:
One person recently (within the last year i believe anyway) complained over the lack of a NRSV based study Bible in Logos. the NISB is a very fine study bible that would fill that gap nicely. Perhaps a wee bit more conservative than the other NIB resources it is very nice indeed Bruce Metzger called it the "most helpful" study Bible available****.
-dan
**** Exact quote is: "Of the current editions of Study Bibles, in my opinion the most helpful for pastors, teachers, and all students of the Scriptures has now been issued by Abingdon Press under the dedicated guidance of Dr. Walter Harrelson." - Bruce M. Metzger, Professor of New Testament, Emeritus, Princeton Theological Seminary
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Scott said:Scott said:DIsciple II said:
I use custom grouping of commentaries in Desktop PG so I prioritise these first
Can someone explain this to me?
It relates to running Passage Guide (PG) on mobile devices. Create a collection (presumably 1 volume commentaries) and use that in the Commentaries section of PG. If you prioritize them, they will be listed in the order that you want for both desktop and mobile PG.
Dave
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Scott said:
First, I think Dave was talking about prioritizing single volume commentaries on the entire bible and then make a collection on all of them using the rules above. Add that to the passage guide and run the guide then the commentary you have prioritized will show up first in the collection that has been ran. You have more one volume commentaries in your library than you need to prioritize so just do your favorites.
Second, you can make a custom series from anything in your library and then add that collection to the passage guide and while you are not prioritizing anything the custom series books will be available to you. But in that collection if you prioritize something it will be first on the list when the passage guide is ran.
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Matt Hamrick said:
Add that to the passage guide
Matt Hamrick said:Add that to the passage guide
If so, how do I add a collectio n to the PG?
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On the top on the right you will see add.
Click add then go down and selection collection.
Go to the heading bar of the new collection section.
Click on setting and select your collection.
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What search criteria should I use to locate all of my one volume commentaries?
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Michael Kinch said:
What search criteria should I use to locate all of my one volume commentaries?
Filtering your Library by type:"Bible commentary" and then sorting by Series and expanding "--" will give you a list that includes all of them, but it may also include some commentaries that aren't in a series but are only on part of the Bible. However, it will filter out most of the ones in a series, and you'll probably easily be able to handle the rest.
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William McFarland said:
I've always like the New Bible Commentary. I have it in hardback and electronically. Very solid.
Me, too. When I want a one volume commentary, it has been the New Bible Commentary for over 40 years.
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Mike Childs said:
When I want a one volume commentary,
Might I ask?
In the context of using Logos, for what reason would one elect to consult a commentary that is chosen by virtue of it being a one volume hardback publication?
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Mike Binks said:
Might I ask?
In the context of using Logos, for what reason would one elect to consult a commentary that is chosen by virtue of it being a one volume hardback publication?
For me the value of a one volume commentary is that it is concise. I often find what I need in a one volume commentary or sometimes in a study Bible. It is usually my starting point. From there I move onto my favorite commentaries and other resources.
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Michael Kinch said:Mike Binks said:
Might I ask?
In the context of using Logos, for what reason would one elect to consult a commentary that is chosen by virtue of it being a one volume hardback publication?
For me the value of a one volume commentary is that it is concise. I often find what I need in a one volume commentary or sometimes in a study Bible. It is usually my starting point. From there I move onto my favorite commentaries and other resources.
Exactly. I use the "Summarized Bible" (Old and New Testament) and Wiersbe's "With the Word" Bible commentary for a quick, comprehensive overview, as a starting point for deeper study. If anyone knows of other good works like these, please let me know!
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Lee Gordon said:
Exactly. I use the "Summarized Bible" (Old and New Testament)
If that classifies as one-volume then you would have to tag both volumes as such because they are part of a Series i.e.
(type:bible-commentary AND {Series None}) OR mytag:One-Volume
EDIT: this is not perfect since there are many commentaries for a single bible book (or a number of books) that do not have a series, so it might be best to tag all the genuine ones as One-Volume.
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:Lee Gordon said:
Exactly. I use the "Summarized Bible" (Old and New Testament)
If that classifies as one-volume then you would have to tag both volumes as such because they are part of a Series i.e.
(type:bible-commentary AND {Series None}) OR mytag:One-Volume
Yes, unfortunately the Summarized Old and New Testament commentaries are in separate volumes, but they are each a one-volume commentary, as is "With the Word". I'm not speculating as to how you cold pull them up in a search, since I don't know.
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Michael Kinch said:
What are your favorite one volume commentaries? When do you typically use them?
Eerdmans Commentary on the Bible
I like it because it includes the Apocrypha. I also use the NRSV because it has the Apocrypha, so no matter what I'm studying I can also get to the Apocrypha in my bible and commentary without opening an additional resource. It even includes 1 Enoch. Even though I don't view the Apocrypha or Enoch as canonical, I use them for background and word studies in the New Testament.
Also, the commentary seems rather moderate, not too conservative or fundamentalist, not too liberal.
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Lee Gordon said:
I'm not speculating as to how you cold pull them up in a search, since I don't know.
See the EDIT to my previous post.
But a more traditional way to identify one-volume commentaries is:
type:bible-commentary AND subj:Bible--Commentaries
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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DAL said:
I just added the NIB One Volume Commentary to my one volume commentary collection; except I had to add it to my Accordance Bible Software, since Logos doesn't sell it.
I also have their New Interpreter's Study Bible which I bought a while ago. They seem to be different resources but from the same NIB family. The one volume commentary is not an abridged version of the 12 volume set (1 volume in Logos and elsewhere). And the notes from the study Bible are different too.
Nice addition to my studies!
DAL
Ps. The links I provided are for the print editions which contain sample pages, in case some of you might want to check them out.
I, too, have added these two resources to Accordance. I really wish Logos sold them and the Abingdon Old/New Testament Commentaries. I don't know why they don't sell more stuff from Abingdon given that they sell the Methodist/Wesleyan base packages. Those would be some good additions to those collections, along with the CEB Study Bible.
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Kiyah said:
I don't know why they don't sell more stuff from Abingdon given that they sell the Methodist/Wesleyan base packages.
I firmly believe this is due to the publisher not wanting it. Abingdon books (with the exception of NIB and NIBD and what came over from WS) are only sold as eBooks - even expensive, scholarly ones.
Have joy in the Lord!
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Dave Hooton said:
a more traditional way to identify one-volume commentaries is:
type:bible-commentary AND subj:Bible--Commentaries
this has a 50/50 chance of false positives (i.e. only half of the hits are one-volume commentaries, the other half are single volumes from series such as WBC, Cecil Sherman and Hermeneia), but also misses quite a bit of one-volume commentaries. The search over empty series is much worse regarding false positives, but also quite unreliable, thus I definitely concur with the suggestion of tagging.
Have joy in the Lord!
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Mike, I agree with the NBC, I have noticed that no one has mentioned a hardback - A Commentary on the Holy Bible, edited by J. R. Dummelow, 1957.
It is a typical one volume type, it includes a nice selection of "General Articles" most written by English divines. Overall it is on the conservative side. I also use "The New Testament and Wycliffe Commentary". in one volume. Also for a different perspective I like "Stern's Jewish New Testament Commentary".
I use all when I need a quick overview of the semantics of a certain passage. The "Net New Testament", is nice for some word studies, but it omits much sadly.
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