Deleting L8 and reinstalling 7
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Ok, so I guess you did say it, but I didn't hear it. Sorry. Let me see if I'm understanding correctly:
1. When you install 7 anew, you get whatever resources you currently own but it will not update to version 8 with auto update off.
2. There is no way after this initial point to download "resources only" without getting engine 8 also.
3. If you have another installation of L8, you can get your newer purchases from it using the scan command.
Did I get that right?
Thanks.
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Well haven't reinstalled 7- but Notes is definitely out for me- it is still where I store hilites. Though I still wish I had disabled auto update- is now.
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willy arnold said:
1. When you install 7 anew, you get whatever resources you currently own but it will not update to version 8 with auto update off.
That's my understanding and experience. Please understand that we are talking about an unsupported, undocumented and un-recommended way of operating the software.
willy arnold said:2. There is no way after this initial point to download "resources only" without getting engine 8 also.
This is my understanding - for practical purposes at least. "No way" is very strong - there possibly could be a way, but I don't know how to do it.
willy arnold said:3. If you have another installation of L8, you can get your newer purchases from it using the scan command.
This should work based on my overall experience and my understanding of how Logos works - and that's how I got (the other direction) my Logos 7 PBBs into the Logos 8 beta I ran in parallel. I have not yet confirmed this by trying it.
I found one additional aspect today:
- Set the startup layout in version 7 to "Application closed", blank or a named layout from version 7 that works. I used to have "Most recent layout - any" and Verbum 7 crashed after startup since I had the Lexham Survey of Theology open in L8, the datatypes of which version 7 can't understand.
There may be more of such quirks. Remember the two installations synchronize, so changes to priorization, to layouts and a number of other things will give ample opportunity to challenge one of the versions with understanding data that is was not programmed for.
Have joy in the Lord!
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Thanks Mick. I finally got it to work. In case anyone else is interested, here is a step by step guide of what worked for me:
How to run Verbum 7 alongside Logos 8: A Step-by-Step Guide
This could also be used in reverse (Logos 7 & Verbum 8).1. Download Verbum 7 (or Logos 7) here.
2. Run the installer and choose a new location.
3. Uncheck "Automatically download updates."
4. I don't know if it makes a difference whether or not you skip "Synchronizing."
5. After this, I had nothing in my library, zero books.
6. You will see "Updates are available." Do not click this, as it will migrate you to version 8.
7. Instead, use the scan command to read your Logos 8 installation. For me, it was "scan E:\Programs\Logos" It will seem like nothing is going on, but just be patient.
8. While that is running, turn off automatic updates: Tools/Program Settings/Internet/Automatically Download Updates = NO.
9. Type this into the command box: "set update channel to manual"
10. If you buy new books, download them in Logos 8 and then rescan them in Verbum 7, or use the method Andrew mentions below.
Thanks to Mick and everyone else here for the info.
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willy arnold said:
9. Type this into the command box: "set update channel to manual"
10. If you buy new books, download them in Logos 8 and then rescan them in Verbum 7.
If your update channel is set to a channel name that doesn't exist (like "manual"), then you won't ever get any application updates, which means you can turn automatically download updates back on and receive resource updates without having to scan.
Before you do that though, you may want to find the "Data\<random>\UpdateManager\" folder and delete that to ensure that any previously detected Logos 8 update doesn't get downloaded and installed.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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Awesome! Thanks Andrew!
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If your update channel is set to a channel name that doesn't exist (like "manual"), then you won't ever get any application updates
Is this setting specific to each installation? Or would it block them all from receiving updates? I do want to receive updates in my Logos 8 installation.
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willy arnold said:
If your update channel is set to a channel name that doesn't exist (like "manual"), then you won't ever get any application updates
Is this setting specific to each installation? Or would it block them all from receiving updates? I do want to receive updates in my Logos 8 installation.
The Update Channel setting is specific to each installation
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willy arnold said:
9. Type this into the command box: "set update channel to manual"
10. If you buy new books, download them in Logos 8 and then rescan them in Verbum 7.
If your update channel is set to a channel name that doesn't exist (like "manual"), then you won't ever get any application updates, which means you can turn automatically download updates back on and receive resource updates without having to scan.
Before you do that though, you may want to find the "Data\<random>\UpdateManager\" folder and delete that to ensure that any previously detected Logos 8 update doesn't get downloaded and installed.
Thanks, that helps!
Have joy in the Lord!
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