Resource Specific Notes and Visual Filters

Jeremy Writebol
Jeremy Writebol Member Posts: 112 ✭✭
edited November 20 in English Forum

This may be asked before so please forgive if that is the case:

Pre-Logos 8 training had us create "resource specific notes", especially for highlights, etc. and this seemed to be the main way to highlight in the mobile apps. 

Logos 8 Notes have obviously changed the game on that completely. 

I had a good system in Logos 7 for creating a note file for a specific passage I was researching and being able to highlight appropriate material across various resources to be in that one note (now a notebook). But I also had resource specific notes that captured the highlights and comments of an entire work (e.g. all my notes on Calvin's Institutes). 

With the new notes system, I am confused about whether I should create a resource-specific notebook and a passage specific notebook to highlight across many resources. 

Furthermore, the visual filters are no longer resource specific and therefore every notebook appears in every resource, which does not help spell out what notebooks I actually have highlights in for that specific resource.

Should I delete all my notes and start from scratch? How are you building/reorganizing your notes/notebooks? 

Any clarity here? 

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,628

    With the new notes system, I am confused about whether I should create a resource-specific notebook and a passage specific notebook to highlight across many resources. 

    Have you looked at the facets for "Resource" and "Bible Book"? With notes / highlights tagged to these you might find the need for resource-specific notebooks has gone away. You might still want to have Passage-specific ones from what you say above.

    Furthermore, the visual filters are no longer resource specific and therefore every notebook appears in every resource, which does not help spell out what notebooks I actually have highlights in for that specific resource.

    That is recognised as a bug and being looked into.

    Should I delete all my notes and start from scratch?

    I wouldn't do that - but its well worth looking at how to change your approach in L8

    How are you building/reorganizing your notes/notebooks? 

    I haven't fully worked this out yet - but am finding there is no real need anymore for resource-specific notebooks. I still have them for sermon series I am working on.

  • John Fidel
    John Fidel MVP Posts: 3,387

    Hi Jeremy,

    I have been working my way through this process as well. I did decide to minimize the number of notes I have in notebooks, specifically if they are in one resource. To do this you need to open Notes, then open that notebook, select all the notes by clicking on the first one and then hold the shift key and scroll to the bottom. Then in the notebook section dropdown select no notebook. See screenshot below:

    Once you confirm that the notes are now in the "no notebook" you can delete the notebook.

    The cool new feature with Notes is that if you open a resource that has notes or highlights in it, select the TOC and then the Note icon on the right, you can see every note and highlight in that resource. The only visual filter you will need if these notes are not included in any notebook is the "no notebook".

    I removed all highlights from notebooks as well. I did keep notebooks where there were unanchored notes or where I had notes I wanted to turn on and off with the visual filters easily.

    The result was fewer notebooks and visual filter options; all highlight will be on with only "no notebook" selected in the visual filters; and I can see what notes or highlights are in a particular resource by selecting that resource from the notes facet menu and then opening the TOC/Notes and Highlights in the resource.

    Here is a post that has links to several articles and videos:

    https://community.logos.com/forums/t/173723.aspx 

    Also there is a list of incomplete features in notes that I cannot find right now to assist you in your decision. If in doubt, you may want to wait and see how the notes tool develops over the next month or so. If you accidentally delete a note you can go to www.documents.logos.com and retrieve them.

    Think it through to see if any of this plan works for you. In my mind the new notes system, while not fully functional, allows or users to not have to use notebooks for each resource unless they desire to do so.

    Please let me know if you have questions. Hopefully others will have suggestions as well since we all work very differently.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,628

    Also there is a list of incomplete features in notes that I cannot find right now to assist you in your decision

    This is available at https://www.logos.com/faq/notes 

  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness MVP Posts: 13,513

    select all the notes by clicking on the first one and then hold the shift key and scroll to the bottom. Then in the notebook section dropdown select no notebook

    Logos 8.1 Beta 3 Mac OS 10.14.1

    John this did not work for me. I selected all the notes in the notebook, and selected no notebook from the dropdown. It appeared that the highlights were no longer in any notebook.

    However, when I selected a single note—it was still in the notebook [:'(]

    did I miss something? [^o)]

  • David Taylor, Jr.
    David Taylor, Jr. Member Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭

    select all the notes by clicking on the first one and then hold the shift key and scroll to the bottom. Then in the notebook section dropdown select no notebook

    Logos 8.1 Beta 3 Mac OS 10.14.1

    John this did not work for me. I selected all the notes in the notebook, and selected no notebook from the dropdown. It appeared that the highlights were no longer in any notebook.

    However, when I selected a single note—it was still in the notebook Crying

    did I miss something? Hmm

    When you had them selected and changed the notebook did you scroll all the way to the bottom and hit apply? I missed that at first and it drove me nuts.

  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness MVP Posts: 13,513

    [:$] Saw that just before I saw your post and came back here to delete the evidence of my lack of attention—Alas, too late [:$]

  • Ruben Sandoval
    Ruben Sandoval Member Posts: 105

    Aha!

    Wow! I missed this too! Had tried like 3x and then shrugged my shoulders and moved on.

    Good catch and thanks for the post guys!

    **Still wish we could organize notes in a notebook(?) by a heading of some sort like in L7

  • Christof Kälin
    Christof Kälin Member Posts: 98

    Thanks a ton! Now I can quickly move those resource-specific highlights out and delete those notebooks. I was first trying to remove highlights and then re-create them in the same instant to get rid of them, but that was a chore [:)]