how to exclude a passage list

Robert Offringa
Robert Offringa Member Posts: 5
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I have not, by any means, mastered the search capabilities of the L8 software.  Thanks in advance for your help.  

Let's say I have done my awesome morphological search and I have created a passage list with almost everything I was looking for.  The results look something like "In my heart"  Very nice.

But now I want to see the New Testament WITHOUT that lookup.  Why? because not every instance of the word "Heart?" is preceded by a preposition and a pronoun.  I want to know what I am missing.

I have tried every which way to use the ANDNOT command but I am getting false results.

I recently learned how to sub search a passage list.  Now I want to sub search everything that is NOT my passage list.

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,758

    Hi Robert - and welcome to the forums

    Sorry but I can't quite grasp what you are asking.

    When you mention "passage list" I think you might be meaning "search" but I'm not sure

    Are you able to post a screenshot (using the paperclip icon in the forum editor) showing what you have produced and explaining what different result you are trying to get?

    Thanks, Graham 

  • Levi Durfey
    Levi Durfey Member Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭

    I think Robert is referring to this thread about searching for something, saving it as a passage list, and then searching within that list.

    Now he wants to exclude everything in the passage list from the search results.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,856

    Now I want to sub search everything that is NOT my passage list.

    I'm puzzled as well, but I'll assume the "in my heart" passage list is OK. So search for "heart" and create a passage list. From that list, click on Merge, then select the "in my heart" passage list, and choose Difference. The resulting list is all passages NOT in "my passage list", but still containing the word "heart".

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,758

    I think Robert is referring to this thread about searching for something, saving it as a passage list, and then searching within that list.

    Now he wants to exclude everything in the passage list from the search results.

    Thanks Levi

    Robert - if that is what you are trying to do I would stay with searches and not Passage lists.

    On the left is a search that sounds similar to what you are doing, on the right is one that searches for "heart" but doesn't include the ones found in the search on the left

    Is this the sort of thing you are looking for?

    Graham

  • Robert Offringa
    Robert Offringa Member Posts: 5

    Yes, thank you everyone.  You are correct in your assumptions of what I was saying, though I am really intrigued by the responder before you as well.  I'll have to try that.

    So, yes, I started out with 

    heart? ANDNOT (<LogosMorphGr ~ P> BEFORE 1 WORDS <LogosMorphGr ~ R??????> BEFORE 1 WORDS heart?)

    it actually worked this time.  I composed the same line this morning and it gave me nothing but grief.  I did it in the NKJV.  While that shouldn't make a difference, at least this worked.

    THEN: I created a passage list and searched only that passage list with this further exclusion:

    heart? ANDNOT (@R BEFORE 1 WORDS heart?)

    I created another passage list, which I then referenced in a third search with this exclusion, cutting out all the definite articles:

    hearts? ANDNOT (<LogosMorphGr ~ D???> BEFORE 1 WORDS heart?)

    I ended up with 11 verses with results like 2 Peter 2:14   "They have a heart trained in covetous practices"   (no definite article, no preposition, no pronoun)

    I am grateful.  

    now to try the other brother's MERGE Difference method.

    bob

  • Robert Offringa
    Robert Offringa Member Posts: 5

    Awesome, yes, symmetrical difference.  Totally worked.  Thanks!

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,856

    So, yes, I started out with 

    heart? ANDNOT (<LogosMorphGr ~ P> BEFORE 1 WORDS <LogosMorphGr ~ R??????> BEFORE 1 WORDS heart?)

    it actually worked this time.  I composed the same line this morning and it gave me nothing but grief.  I did it in the NKJV.  While that shouldn't make a difference, at least this worked.

    (<LogosMorphGr ~ P> BEFORE 1 WORDS <LogosMorphGr ~ R??????> BEFORE 1 WORDS heart?) works in a translation like ESV because of English word order (in Greek the pronoun may appear after "heart?").

    So heart? ANDNOT (......) works quite well for your purposes.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13